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#631 OFFLINE   Clanger

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 06:29 AM

Wicked skilz bruv innit?

 

I am seriously in awe of how you are solving these problems... should you decide you don't want to do home chemistry check out https://www.caswellplating.com/# they have all kinds of plating kits. 

 

I don't know how they do things down there in Napoleon country, but if you aren't hamstrung by the air quality mandates of the Peoples' Republik of Kalifornia the good folks at Caswell will sell you all manner of poisonous chemicals for your electroplating delights.

 

Keep the updates coming.

 

BTW - sorry if you have already said - I think you have - but are you running the original 6v system?  If so, where did you get your battery from?  The Napa 6v batteries I have been buying for our 62 Beetle aren't that great in terms of longevity. 



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Posted 05 November 2018 - 12:26 PM

No, it's been done to 12V already. Regular battery from Walmart.

Funny, the electrolyte I have there is just regular household chemicals and works fine. Likewise the electrolyte for nickel. The hardest part is finding a good source of pure metal.

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 09:39 PM

Wow. Next you'll be making bombs. Or crystal meth.


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Squeak, rattle and roll.

 

 

Thanks restorer.

 

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 09:42 PM

*GCHQ*

..... watching & listening ......
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Wallsend?.....it's not the End of the Walled ;<)

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#635 OFFLINE   PhilA

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 10:39 PM

Nope. I have no interest in things that go boom or anything else.

Shiny stuff however, different story.

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 10:40 PM

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 11:27 PM

I don't think this will do 88 mph. I think book top speed is 85.


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Posted 05 November 2018 - 11:59 PM

Went to the hardware store. They had very dusty package of 99% nickel welding electrodes. They're been sat there so long they still had a paper price on and the computer didn't recognize the barcode.

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Cleaned all the flux off.

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Chopped it up and stuck it in solution, hooked up to 12V.

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Half an hour in, it's beginning to turn green. Nickel salts are occurring. It's currently cooking away.

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Onward and upward.


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 01:48 AM

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Fizz!


3.3 Volts in a weak nickel solution.

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 03:11 AM

Metal plating can bring you into contact with rather unpleasant stuff; I hope you're not shortening your own MTBF doing this?


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 03:31 AM

I'm avoiding drinking the pretty colors.

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(And glib aside, yes, I'm taking care and am well aware just how toxic copper II acetate and nickel acetate are.)
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Posted 06 November 2018 - 04:37 AM

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Result. I need to refine the cleaning and copper plating process, but I think that's altogether pretty good for a homebrew contraption.


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 01:58 PM

Alchemy!


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Squeak, rattle and roll.

 

 

Thanks restorer.

 

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 02:39 PM

Magic!

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Rover 75 1.8 auto - wafty kettle
Ford Galaxy - big red shite with added space

BMW 318i Touring with dealer optional indicators fitted! Gently sleeping!
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Posted 06 November 2018 - 05:27 PM

Further experimentation with strength of the solution to follow- the nickel seems to be pretty good weak. The copper was a bit strong for 3 volts so I'll try dilute it down a bit and try again with different voltages.

I may end up making a variable voltage thingy to drop the pd across the solution further. Apparently you can plate copper from about 0.6 volts on up. The stronger the solution, the more current passes and the crappier the finish and adhesion of the metal.

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 05:59 PM

Is that glowing bulb your current limiter?

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 06:08 PM

thats nuts

 

described what you are doing to yank owning workmate and he said brave but id have alu taped it :D



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Posted 06 November 2018 - 06:23 PM

Is that glowing bulb your current limiter?


No, that's just connected across the 5V rail of the psu. It won't come up without some load attached.

Thinking of it, I do have some resistance bulbs, I could try that.

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 10:44 PM

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Pulled the turn signal assembly out of the car.

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It comes apart further, which is nice.

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Scrubbed the thing down with the wire brush and dumped it into rust converter.

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Forgot about a couple of exhaust manifold nuts that I'd left in the rust converter solution. Cleaned them up and, for giggles, put them in the nickel plating tank to see what will happen.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 12:22 AM

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My nuts are clean and shiny.


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Posted 07 November 2018 - 02:15 AM

Had a bit of a scrub at the reflector.

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It's beginning to look better already. It's gone back in the ascorbic acid bath for the night. It will be subject to more wire-brushing tomorrow. I'll probably put some paint stripper on it to thoroughly clean any paint left on it off, then clean it in the bath galvanically, then have a go at plating it.

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 12:40 AM

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Ew. Oxidisation.

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Compare to yesterday. Improvement.

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To try and improve it further, it's in an acid solution to try and galvanically clean the surface.

It's still in there. I'm going to leave it a while. Fizz.


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:51 AM

Getting there.

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Enough for tonight. Left the power supply running and the sudden spate of humid, warm rainy weather prompted another hatching of spiders, which all connected around the light. Ugh. Got maintenance at work overnight so I have no idea what shape I'll be in tomorrow but I'll try to do some more.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 12:14 AM

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Flash rust. Left overnight, from yesterday.

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All cleaned up with Dremel. Stuck it in acid bath to clean. Once it's fully clean, copper plating abound.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 01:06 AM

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Plating occurs. Resistance lamps acting as a voltage divider.

Bonus, neighbor was throwing away a welding cart and asked if I wanted it. I now have a welding cart. Need to get a MIG welder to go in it now...


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 03:32 AM

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That's what you get when copper plates just a little too fast. It just wiped off.

Started over with more resistance to reduce the plating current.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 05:16 AM

Alright. For those of you who have tolerated this sidestep into alchemy, the (very nearly) end result, and the whole point of this endeavour:

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Reflective surface where there was none before.

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With the sidelight hooked up in a temporary fashion, the result is plain to see.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 05:30 AM

very cool to see :) I like me a good bit of Chemistry

 

(the lit picture kinda reminds of the old 1930s ESLA Streetlights  :mrgreen:  )


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 08:29 AM

You're a bright spark ain't ya?


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 09:32 AM

fantastic to see the end product works as expected (washer nozzles and plating) - I'm seriously learning (remembering stuff I'd lodged in the recesses) a load of stuff I'd never have given second thought to. You have re-awakened the mad scientist n a lot of us I think!  

Off to find stuff needing* plating!


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