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#1021 ONLINE   hairnet

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 07:31 PM

*engine porn pics await



#1022 OFFLINE   Joloke

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 07:53 PM

You going to paint it while its out Phil? I bet youve already said and i get told off for not paying attention :lol:

Its my filthy mind and all this talk about Escutcheons!

Makes me forget allsorts :roll:


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Posted 08 February 2019 - 12:10 AM

This time round, probably not. Unless I change my mind and can find the correct shade of blue-green.

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 12:12 AM

Dunno..this was......attachicon.gifIMG_0489.JPGattachicon.gifIMG_0494.JPG


But wasn't that fitted by Oldsmobile to begin with? My series Chieftain never received a V.
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Posted 08 February 2019 - 12:34 AM

This time round, probably not. Unless I change my mind and can find the correct shade of blue-green.

Phil

 

ask DW/Zel to send a section of invacar body work for you to colour match off of?  :mrgreen:



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Posted 08 February 2019 - 02:36 AM

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I think I shall be investing in new chain.

That's been hanging there since I pulled the engine out of the Renault.

Also, thinking about engine slings rather than chain. Thoughts?

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 02:53 AM

There's a reason HF can flog you stuff like this at the price they do, and it involves QA being done on a tick box basis, in this instance the tick box is 'does the shipping weight of the carton correspond with the weight listed'.

The jack isn't from Horrible Fright. However, I agree. Some of their stuff is good. I'm impressed with the crane, to be honest.

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 05:10 AM

But wasn't that fitted by Oldsmobile to begin with? My series Chieftain never received a V.

 

 

Only GM could produce the same body shell with so many different configurations............!


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 11:24 AM

Only way to keep the costs down, plus they learned that from wartime manufacture.

Seller of the jack offered $20 or a new handle. Accepted new handle. Learned neighbor is proficient at TIG. Might go have a word and get this one made workable while the new one is in the post.

Wife has been warned I need some garage time today. I think I shall stress the fact by changing immediately into glad rags, taking out the trash and making breakfast to try and balance that a little.
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Posted 09 February 2019 - 11:30 AM

I would much prefer using straps than chain but chains are more adjustable.
(Making loops with bolts through the links etc)
As you have invested in the lift, invest in one of those lifting beams that allow the lifting point to be shifted about?

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 06:17 PM

It's the weekend!

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Also bloody cold today. Fired up the Coleman lantern for some heat and light. Started undoing the (all rather rusty) bolts holding the grille on. Only one broke.

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Lifted the grille off. Looks quite different!

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Had a "to hell with it" moment. Drilled out the rivets holding the stiffener bar in.

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At this point I'm breaking for lunch.

More to come. I need to get the vacuum line out of the carburetor that goes to the distributor. That is going to be fun, it wouldn't budge last time I tried.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 07:26 PM

Didn't actually break for lunch at that point.

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I did manage to remove the vacuum line from the carburetor.

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This meant I could remove the manifolds.

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And all the linkages for the gears and throttle.

Now, lunch.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 07:50 PM

Top work, I imagine my B series replacement in the Oxford will be less heavy lifting..

How much weight is in the engine?

Are you going engine and box out in a oner?
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Posted 09 February 2019 - 07:55 PM

2nd pic hnnnng


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 08:09 PM

Top work, I imagine my B series replacement in the Oxford will be less heavy lifting..
How much weight is in the engine?
Are you going engine and box out in a oner?


Engine and box together are coming out. Next task is to undo the propshaft.

Together they weigh 860 lbs (390kg).

I'm going to split the box from the engine when they're out, hoist the gearbox up on the bench and rebuild it there.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 08:12 PM

Sounds a plenty sensible choice:)

390kg isn't as bad as I thought - a selection of blocks of wood are useful to prop it up when sitting it on the floor, though I may be teaching my granny to suck eggs
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Posted 09 February 2019 - 08:36 PM

Yeah. It's supported in the car at three points- one mount front center, and a mounting cradle at back that fixes to either side of the chassis.

I may make a little thing for it to sit on, it'll be good to run it before putting it back in, make sure it's all good while access is good.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 08:38 PM

Yeah. It's supported in the car at three points- one mount front center, and a mounting cradle at back that fixes to either side of the chassis.

I may make a little thing for it to sit on, it'll be good to run it before putting it back in, make sure it's all good while access is good.

Phil


Just don't try to catch it like Dollywobbler did with the reliant engine;)
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Posted 09 February 2019 - 08:40 PM

With over 200lb/ft of torque, I'm not going to be revving it up, no.

It makes the entire vehicle rock, it would flip itself over.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 08:59 PM

You should get one of these for the Oxford. It'll bolt right in*.

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 12:27 AM

You know, I have a mild fear of the back of the car. It's one area I haven't really gone under or around too much to de-spider.

I'm hoping the cold weather hangs around enough that they stay mostly dormant. I can almost guarantee there's still one or two hiding up under there. I found more webs today, brown widow. Those give a really nasty bite (read: hospital visit), and I don't much fancy that.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 04:12 AM

Moderately good news; new handle for my jack has been sent out.

I think I'll invest in some new chains and go from there afterwards.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 05:18 PM

I need an American car in my life. It ain't gonna happen though :(


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 05:48 PM

Also bloody cold today. Fired up the Coleman lantern for some heat and light.


 

 

Do tell, what temp was "bloody cold"?



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Posted 11 February 2019 - 07:04 PM

Do tell, what temp was "bloody cold"?

 

 

About 5C with high humidity, with the wind that cut right through everything.

 

For here, that's bloody cold. I've become used to 30C being "normal"

 

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 07:21 PM

I need an American car in my life. It ain't gonna happen though :(

Get one Ken you know you want to ;-)

Sorry for that Phil I just felt it needed to be said


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:10 PM

About 5C with high humidity, with the wind that cut right through everything.
 
For here, that's bloody cold. I've become used to 30C being "normal"
 
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It's difference that you feel!
Varied between -1C and 7C here today (heatwave ;) )
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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:41 PM

I could get used to 30 degrees! Bet the moistness ruins it though, not a fan of the moist, me. Also spiders, especially ones wot bite.

Top motoring, really enjoying this thread. Turns out i may have been a closeted 'murican shite licker, always liked the mid sixties cadillacs, before the OMGEMISSIONS power down of engines in the early seventiez (71?), i mean an 8.2 V8 with 180bhp?! Pfffft. Nonsense.

Anyway, could have one of these too if space/funds etc the usual.
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 12:36 AM

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Yo ho ho, and up she rises

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Air ride in the morning


60psi in the rear suspension. Wanted to see if it would take air, and it did; it raised things to a little to be able to see underneath more.

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That's a lot of spiders.

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You can just see where the chassis has been notched. It needs to be rubbed back and protected.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 05:58 AM

I need an American car in my life. It ain't gonna happen though :(

 

Why not?


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