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#571 OFFLINE   LightBulbFun

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Posted 20 October 2018 - 10:24 PM

canadian electricery is slower

 

I know you say that as a Joke

 

but way back in the day Canadian Electricity WAS slower it was 25Hz as apposed to 60Hz  :mrgreen:



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Posted 21 October 2018 - 12:34 AM

A length of 28ga wire wrapped in a helix around each tube and grounded see them ignite reliably now.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 02:07 AM

Digression there; back to the car.

Measured up for new fork terminals.

They're #8 stud (0.16").

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Checked the fuse box and they're the same. Found some right angle fork terminals for the fuse box, too. I think I'll need a funky crimp tool for them also. Regular fork terminals will have it looking weird and majorly untidy.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 03:43 AM

Starting on wiring layout, what goes where.

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Needs redoing bigger but it's a start.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 07:39 AM

That's far more readable than many BMC/BL wiring diagrams!

Not tempted to rip it all out and wire it in your own way? Can't be many circuits on it.
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Posted 21 October 2018 - 07:50 AM

Photograph it, with yrr phone....

Use a projector to image it onto the inside of the garage door then line out with a felt tip = Big Enough ? ;)
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Wallsend?.....it's not the End of the Walled ;<)

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 08:32 AM

Photograph it, with yrr phone....

Use a projector to image it onto the inside of the garage door then line out with a felt tip = Big Enough ? ;)

 

a high DPI scanner would be best :)

 

its literally a vector drawing after all  :mrgreen:



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Posted 21 October 2018 - 09:13 AM

Electric - eek 130%

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 02:20 PM

That's far more readable than many BMC/BL wiring diagrams!
Not tempted to rip it all out and wire it in your own way? Can't be many circuits on it.


Trouble with that is while you are correct and there's about a much wiring in it as there is your MGB, there's only a few paths for things to take though the firewall. This is mostly so I can get into my head what's going to be loomed together where, in what gauge and color.

From the engine bay there are, uh, 4 legs of loom. Engine loom, lights loom, rear of car loom and heater loom.

Inside most things go to one of these, some go in and out of the firewall in a rather pointless fashion to external fuses. All of it has been ripped at and is horribly messy right now.

So, I'll be keeping mostly to the original paths because they make sense but using modern wire, and stuff in multiple colors to try aid future troubleshooting.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 02:21 PM

Photograph it, with yrr phone....
Use a projector to image it onto the inside of the garage door then line out with a felt tip = Big Enough ? ;)


I was just thinking two sheets of paper, taped together.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 02:40 PM

^^ "Were gunna need a bigger....." ;)

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 05:24 PM

Bought the correct bulbs for the reverse lights (30W) and fitted them.
Silverstars so they've got that funny pale blue covering. They didn't have the regular ones.

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Also got a replacement for the license plate lamp that I accidently smashed. Bought some soap and a brush to clean up the upholstery.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 08:02 PM

All protected and clamped down.

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Connectors going to be on order soon. Little by little.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 08:15 PM

Scrubbed some at the seat, but that showed it needs to be vacuumed more first. It's kicking up dirt from the brush.

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Definitely an improvement to be seen though.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 08:23 PM

Cloth seats and twin reversing lamps, you are living it up. Not much chod has reversing lamps fitted.


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Squeak, rattle and roll.

 

 

Thanks restorer.

 

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 08:29 PM

Cloth seats and twin reversing lamps, you are living it up. Not much chod has reversing lamps fitted.


Optional extras! Sadly they aren't the originals, but they're period vintage.

Originally they had 33W bulbs in. Closest I could get was these, 30. They now significantly light up the area behind the car- useful for around here where street lighting is optional.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 08:41 PM

Blimey that's good. Can only obtain 21 watters here. You only come to appreciate them when in a dark and unfamiliar area and don't know what's in the ground behind.


Squeak, rattle and roll.

 

 

Thanks restorer.

 

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 09:49 PM

Something something legislation.

Considering the headlight dip beams were only 35 Watts originally, yeah. These 30 watt bulbs get used in things like cornering lights and such so are still kinda available.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 11:20 PM

Well, crap.

I had stuffed the keys to the Chieftain into my pocket earlier after taking the picture with the reversing lights on.

I then went to the store, must have dragged the keys out of my pocket with my car keys and dropped them onto the floor because they're gone.

Nobody turned them in either


Blah.


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Edit: Still no keys, bought a replacement pushbutton for the starter, to go with the replacement ignition switch I bought.

If that's the case then the only real irritation is the key for the trunk did work, the door locks didn't work though.
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Posted 21 October 2018 - 11:53 PM

Ack, sorry to hear that!

It's one reason I have a huge bundle of keys (having four cars has nothing to do with it...the van having about a million keys doesn't help). If I drop them it's impossible for me not to notice usually.

Does mean that the day I inevitably do... I'll be well screwed however...

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 12:01 AM

I'll get it sorted- for now I'll just hotwire it but it's annoying.

Ultimately I did need to replace the door locks to get a matching set- I guess that's bumped up the priority list.

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 02:49 AM

Haha

Yeah so GM can go piss up a rope

The ignition barrel I bought is GM cars, all except Pontiac.

Pontiac use Chevrolet Truck ignition barrels.





Argh. Al Pontacs R Shit

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 01:34 PM

I have bought a replacement pushbutton for the starter. It's something I needed to get.

Off sick from work today, going to go find a quiet dark place to crawl into and die.
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Posted 22 October 2018 - 01:51 PM

I have bought a replacement pushbutton for the starter. It's something I needed to get.

Off sick from work today, going to go find a quiet dark place to crawl into and die.

 

Back seat of the Pontiac with a blindfold?


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 02:14 PM

Think pretty much all mainstream American stuff of this era had a seperate chassis.........Hudson had a perimeter frame, as you say, and was considered really radical. I think that we, on this side of the pond, had better roads than in rural America..................

 

Roads in Europe, even the British ones, are far better engineered and maintained than most roads in the US.  Even the interstates have junctions that would give a British civil engineer heart failure. 


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Posted Yesterday, 10:48 PM

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Cleaned up the "wrong" ignition barrel. Going to put it back up for sale and try get my money back.

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Posted Yesterday, 10:56 PM

Well, crap.

I had stuffed the keys to the Chieftain into my pocket earlier after taking the picture with the reversing lights on.

I then went to the store, must have dragged the keys out of my pocket with my car keys and dropped them onto the floor because they're gone.

Nobody turned them in either


Blah.


Phil


Edit: Still no keys, bought a replacement pushbutton for the starter, to go with the replacement ignition switch I bought.

If that's the case then the only real irritation is the key for the trunk did work, the door locks didn't work though.


Glad I'm not the only one. I've never lost keys before. However I have miss placed the 1100 keys. Luckily 1970s worn out locks are so rubbish, my garage key opened the drivers door. The same drivers door that is no longer attached to the car.
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Posted Yesterday, 11:20 PM

Haha yeah. The locks on my old man's Sprite are rather worn. They do still lock but it's not like a ragtop is particularly secure...

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Posted Today, 01:53 AM

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Got the trunk open. At least the keys weren't in there. On the other hand, sucks that they weren't.

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Bonus wooden spoon down the back of the passenger seat.

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Posted Today, 03:41 AM

Just ordered a crimp tool and some of the correct #8 flag fork connectors. And some bullet connectors and a 6V bucking converter for the gauges and a new brake light switch.

Correct lockset for the car (55-58 Chevy truck) available and not hugely expensive ($100-ish).

This car gonna make me po'
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