Rocket88 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Cars of this era were designed to take into account the fact that there far more un-metalled roads than there are now..hence the need for huge ground clearance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Jimmy Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Cars of this era were designed to take into account the fact that there far more un-metalled roads than there are now..hence the need for huge ground clearanceNot really, otherwise old Saabs and Volvos would be miles off the ground as would Traction Avant and DS. I'm not sure whether all yanks had hypoid diffs by this time and some were still built on a frame. One of the Hudson Hornets innovations was it's 'step over' perimeter frame, allowing the body to be much lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 There's still plenty roads in this country that are just dirt. Most of the highways here are either cement or asphalt over cement. Long travel, softly sprung, casually dampened suspension with a heavy body (which leads to the wallowing, tyre-squealing early fifties characteristics) was a positive thing for early highway use. Soaks up the THOMP-THOMP, passssccchhhhhh, THOMP-THOMP, passsssccchhhhhh of mile after mile of concrete. Phil cort1977, eddyramrod and RayMK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket88 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Not really, otherwise old Saabs and Volvos would be miles off the ground as would Traction Avant and DS. I'm not sure whether all yanks had hypoid diffs by this time and some were still built on a frame. One of the Hudson Hornets innovations was it's 'step over' perimeter frame, allowing the body to be much lower. Think pretty much all mainstream American stuff of this era had a seperate chassis.........Hudson had a perimeter frame, as you say, and was considered really radical. I think that we, on this side of the pond, had better roads than in rural America.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Exciting! Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Relay was delivered about 20 minutes after I went home for lunch. Go figure. Really need to get that screw out now. Also need to get some bullet connectors. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Relay arrive. Judicious quantity of torque applicator. By the feel of it, probably close to 40lb/ft to undo it. Huzzah. Can't do anything else with it tonight but it's ready to poke the wire up through now. Phil Scruffy Bodger, LightBulbFun, Skizzer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Now quite true. I put them in some derusting solution to sit and clean up. Phil eddyramrod and LightBulbFun 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeRover Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 No mile upon mile of wooden boardways like in fear is the key, I am disappointed Would it be worth checking the quality of work done on notching the chassis rails to make sure they haven't angle ground then out then filled with structural wob or concrete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Yeah, I'm going to. Most of the work done on the car has been done well. One positive thing, I got the catalog for California Pontiac Restoration company with the relay. There's so many repro parts available, you can almost build a shell up from them now- I would say panels aside, the parts availability for this car is a pleasant breeze compared to trying to find bits for the Renault. Phil DodgeRover, tooSavvy, Skizzer and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 I have to say this elixir works. Primed. And painted. Looks like it's fixin' to rain. Phil Squire_Dawson, Skizzer and xtriple 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Also put up some really shite old light fixtures. From Canada. Bench is a bit better illuminated. When the tubes don't just sit there and glow the ends. Brand new tubes, brand new ballasts. Go figure. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Bench is a bit better illuminated. When the tubes don't just sit there and glow the ends. Brand new tubes, brand new ballasts. Go figure. Phil better quality electricery in Canadia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Found the problem, ground wasn't making good contact. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Employed a little help and got the horn wire pulled down through the column (first pushed a stout wire up, crimped to it then pulled the new one down). Gently tapped the bearing in place. Shall put a heat shrink over the wire where it comes out then clamp it down. Bullet connectors next. Phil LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 better quality electricery in Canadia Found the problem, ground wasn't making good contact.canadian electricery is slower LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Yeah the lighting woes are because RapidStart systems (a close relative of the British Quickstart system) need a good ground along the tube as they dont provide any high voltage kick to get a tube going like Preheat/switch start does in the UK we had MCF-A tubes which had a conductive stripe down the tube connecting to 1 end cap shell that would be grounded by the lamp holder this was for applications like the London underground where you could not get a good ground close to the tube glass wall a fun thing you can do if you have a Rapidstart/Quickstart/SRS system where the tube is not striking up properly is just bring your hand close to it, or stroke your tube gently (hehe) and you will act as a ground causing the tube to strike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 canadian electricery is slower I know you say that as a Joke but way back in the day Canadian Electricity WAS slower it was 25Hz as apposed to 60Hz mrbenn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 A length of 28ga wire wrapped in a helix around each tube and grounded see them ignite reliably now. Phil LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 Digression there; back to the car. Measured up for new fork terminals. They're #8 stud (0.16"). Checked the fuse box and they're the same. Found some right angle fork terminals for the fuse box, too. I think I'll need a funky crimp tool for them also. Regular fork terminals will have it looking weird and majorly untidy. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 Starting on wiring layout, what goes where. Needs redoing bigger but it's a start. Phil paulplom, eddyramrod, tooSavvy and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 That's far more readable than many BMC/BL wiring diagrams! Not tempted to rip it all out and wire it in your own way? Can't be many circuits on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooSavvy Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Photograph it, with yrr phone.... Use a projector to image it onto the inside of the garage door then line out with a felt tip = Big Enough ? LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Photograph it, with yrr phone.... Use a projector to image it onto the inside of the garage door then line out with a felt tip = Big Enough ? a high DPI scanner would be best its literally a vector drawing after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Electric - eek 130% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 That's far more readable than many BMC/BL wiring diagrams!Not tempted to rip it all out and wire it in your own way? Can't be many circuits on it.Trouble with that is while you are correct and there's about a much wiring in it as there is your MGB, there's only a few paths for things to take though the firewall. This is mostly so I can get into my head what's going to be loomed together where, in what gauge and color. From the engine bay there are, uh, 4 legs of loom. Engine loom, lights loom, rear of car loom and heater loom. Inside most things go to one of these, some go in and out of the firewall in a rather pointless fashion to external fuses. All of it has been ripped at and is horribly messy right now. So, I'll be keeping mostly to the original paths because they make sense but using modern wire, and stuff in multiple colors to try aid future troubleshooting. Phil somewhatfoolish and tooSavvy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 Photograph it, with yrr phone....Use a projector to image it onto the inside of the garage door then line out with a felt tip = Big Enough ? I was just thinking two sheets of paper, taped together. Phil Momentary Lapse Of Reason and tooSavvy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooSavvy Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 ^^ "Were gunna need a bigger....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 Bought the correct bulbs for the reverse lights (30W) and fitted them.Silverstars so they've got that funny pale blue covering. They didn't have the regular ones. Also got a replacement for the license plate lamp that I accidently smashed. Bought some soap and a brush to clean up the upholstery. Phil mat_the_cat, purplebargeken, egg and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 All protected and clamped down. Connectors going to be on order soon. Little by little. Phil dome, Rocket88, tooSavvy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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