For Sale P38 Range Rover, provisionally claimed by *lucky shiter of much winning!

[djimbob]

I love the sound of the proper oil filters, any recommendations where to get one from? (just moved here so not sure where the main stealers or better still decent independents are yet in Huddersfield).

 

Today I have been carting decorating shizzle around such as massive steps and paint and stuff, to Leeds and environs, car behaving very well, and I think I may be developing an unhealthy affection for the old girl

 

I still haven't got the bog roll out due to it banging it down when I got home, but I decided to sling the stereo of no fascia, and fit an old Tevion unit I had kicking around, with an ISO adaptor that wasn't a big snake pit of wiring hell - turns out three of the four channels in the car are dead, only music from the driver's side (Harmon Kardon - very nice) - passenger side worked when I bypassed the loom with my own wiring, too wet to test the rears, so I ran a four strand wire to the rear parcel shelf and left a couple of smoll surround ssound speakers fully floating - made a huge difference for a temporary fix

If one channel sounds this good with a cheapy stereo, then the fully functional sound system must be the mutt's nuts I reckon, up there with the jags and Lexii I have had of late, which have been quite simply immense - Happy days to come

 

I know this is tempting fate, but this seems no more bother than the old XJ40 Jags I have had so far, and just as characterful, with the added bonus you can get a full settee in the back without a sweat

[djimbob]

Today has been another day of total winning

 

Not only did I get from Huddersfield to Leeds and back no fussing and fighting, but on the way back I decided as I had knocked off early, I'd get the aircon gassed, because that's all they ever need innit??

 

Long story short, the nice man said we've filled it from zero gas to massively full, and there are no leaks, but there's something rong and the pump isn't ;(

 

shall we book you in for a diagnostic sir, at fiddy odd quids an hour?

 

No, I don't think we will, I will have a crack at it myself, I optimistically replied

 

Well, I fanny'ed around a bit checking fuses and pulling relays, but no live feed to the compressor, so I decided in an act of genius to bypass all that nonsense and run a feed straight from the battery - result! Compressor engaged, fired the engine up, ice cold air in the cabin

 

I'm not an animal, so I plumbed the line into a live ignition on a plug that was previously stuck into the redundant alarm, and tidied it up a bit, put all my tools and shit away and off into the house full to the brim of Smug

 

I am aware there may* be a massive issue come autumn/night time when I discover I can't turn the fucker off without popping the bonnet and ragging the wiring off, but I will file that under "couldn't give a monkey's right now"

 

I suspect there is a fault at the fascia unit switch which appears to be a bastard to get out and work on, is this a common thing with these buggers? Everything lights up like it looks as if it should work, but it dunt!!

[Wack]

working AC can only be a good thing in this weather , top work

[Captain Furious]

It’s probably the pressure sensor that cuts the feed to the compressor if the pressure is low. Not to put too much of a dampener on your obvious genius but if it was empty of refrigerant then it almost certainly has a leak, even if they didn’t detect it (they often don’t on standard leakdown tests)

 

Keep an eye on it over the next couple of weeks but be prepared for a low to follow this high

[djimbob]

It’s probably the pressure sensor that cuts the feed to the compressor if the pressure is low. Not to put too much of a dampener on your obvious genius but if it was empty of refrigerant then it almost certainly has a leak, even if they didn’t detect it (they often don’t on standard leakdown tests)

 

Keep an eye on it over the next couple of weeks but be prepared for a low to follow this high

 

Oh I am fully prepared for karma to kick me in the nuts with this bugger

 

I wasn't even miffed in the least when the guy told me something was amiss with the system, I really expected all sorts of issues straight off the bat, apparently they use a dye in the refrigerant so if it does start to spew it's contents into the ether then it will show up so they tell me

 

I'm quite enjoying this devil may care attitude I've adopted with this beastie, normally I'm all over the little details, but that would be a swift route to the nut house if I kept that up with this one!

[richardthestag]

I love the sound of the proper oil filters, any recommendations where to get one from? (just moved here so not sure where the main stealers or better still decent independents are yet in Huddersfield).

 

 

online old chap

 

https://www.famousfour.co.uk/new_parts/partslist?veh=rr_p38a&sec=serv&sub_sec=oilfilter

 

or 

 

https://www.paddockspares.com/err3340g-oil-filter-genuine.html

 

[djimbob]

online old chap

 

https://www.famousfour.co.uk/new_parts/partslist?veh=rr_p38a&sec=serv&sub_sec=oilfilter

 

or 

 

https://www.paddockspares.com/err3340g-oil-filter-genuine.html

 

 

Damn, I went into the 4x4 specialist in Leeds and paid £12 for one, mind you it's here now and available next time I get the urge to do an oil change, many thanks for the links

[djimbob]

Status update,

 

been using this beastie regularly to Leeds and back to Huddersfield, knocking around and about, and nary a muff from the now virtually silent engine, mainly due to fitting a reconditioned kenwood stereo and fixing* the aircon so I don't have to drive around with the windows down anymore

 

This is not to say the engine is any quieter than the gentle knock I have become used to, just I have improved the insulation between it and my ears, so winning

 

I found myself reading up on Landy forums and Pistonheads and so on about possible causes of the noise, and general issues of these motors, and despite the intense doom and gloom, I find myself trawling the bay for an LPG converted model, as I seem to have become bewitched by it's charms

 

I don't recall taking a blow to the noggin, or ingesting any mind altering substances, this appears to be a very real liking for the whole rangie experience, not least the fact that after a hard few hours graft, fifteen minutes sat in it seems to sort my back pain out

 

The nearest to this kind of excitement I have come to in recent years was my four litre Daimler XJ40, which also was in BRG (ok the rangie is probably called something else, but it's dark green), in fact it just feels like a Jag on big wheels, but miles more practical

 

How the hell have I managed to go this long without discovering the joys of range Rovers?? !!

[DodgeRover]

Better the devil you know, sort out the knock and get yours converted to gas rather than buying someone else's problems.

[djimbob]

Better the devil you know, sort out the knock and get yours converted to gas rather than buying someone else's problems.

 

I may want to own two :-P

 

Yep, got it bad

[83C]

Don't bother with LPG, its genuinely more trouble than its worth. Have a look at how many P38s with LPG are for sale with knackered engines. 

[DodgeRover]

Don't bother with LPG, its genuinely more trouble than its worth. Have a look at how many P38s with LPG are for sale with knackered engines.

Look how many petrol ones have knackered engines too.

Those with LPG and problems have probably done a lot more miles than the same aged petrol vehicle too.

A properly fitted, specified and correctly adjusted conversion will cause no problems, a £200 Turkish DIY kit with gas ring mixers will just be a source of grief.

Filled up on the motorway today with 121 litres unleaded was £1.41, LPG was 61.9p i would be swiftly bankrupted at 16/18 mpg on petrol.

[djimbob]

Don't bother with LPG, its genuinely more trouble than its worth. Have a look at how many P38s with LPG are for sale with knackered engines. 

 

There seem to be just as many with knackered engines that aren't on LPG!

 

In fact finding running one's is like hen's teeth

 

If all goes well I may be getting sims00's Lexus, we shall see, I am finding these tall barges are the bollocks at my time of life and health

[richardthestag]

The P38 needs to have a sequential setup on LPG, more bits and more expensive - but it should also do better than the 16mpg everage that mine has over the last few years

 

Mine is a earlier 3.9 with distributor etc and runs very happily on LPG, well for the last 140k miles anyway. 

 

I have a closed loop (takes input from lambda sensors to micro adjust the mixture) single point (lpg feeds into the air inlet side of the efi plenum)

 

Cheap running for normal stuff. oil stays clean for 6k but is as thin as water when it gets changed so I tend to change it a bit sooner.

 

The only issue I encountered is that LPG is not quite as powerful as pez, normal day to day I honestly cannot tell the difference. BUT towing 2.5tonnes up a steep hill I did find that flicking to petrol helped me maintain momentum. 

 

My engine still has its original cam and followers at 180k, I had the timing cover off a couple of years back and replaced the chain. Plus the sump came off and no sign of black death anywhere. it still pulls very well and fuel consumption has not changed a bit.

 

I will get around to replacing the cam and followers should the heads ever need to come off. 

 

maybe have a chat with Tinleytech. I bought my kit from them and fitted it myself. not rocket science and the bits are good quality. they checked my car over before first fill and issued a compliance certificate for the insurance company.

[djimbob]

After many months of happy motoring, it all went a bit Pete Tong on Saturday

 

I took Our Lass to Leeds so she could get wasted on Prosecco in the afternoon with Grown Up Daughter, and I noticed almost immediately it was running a bit lumpy, but put it down to having sat for a week unused in the bracing Huddersfield winter conditions, and figured it would sort itself out with a good blast down the M62, which was RONG

 

It started to smoke like a bastard out of the exhaust pipes, most inconveniently whilst travelling thru Headingley with all the student Otley run fancy dress wankers, and all the way to Daughter's place, which seemed like an age - I tried to find a garage open willing to have a quick look see if there was a plug or HT lead out, but no chance, they obviously all spotted the pitfalls of taking on this nightmare!

 

Anyhoo, I called out the RAC, who amazingly decided to send a transporter straight away given the symptoms, so we were on the motorway within about an hour which was a change, I normally give it a four hour window when these things happen, so hooray for them

 

I have checked for oil/water contamination/loss, no signs as yet that I can tell, changed the plugs, one of which was obviously fucked, but all that achieved was a smoother tickover, still smoking on revving, not so much at idle.

 

The smoke is a whitey-blue colour, doesn't seem like oil, but I could be mistaken, and comes out of both pipes.

 

A code has presented on the digital dash, bit hard to read as faded, P168033 . 0  - as far as I can tell, and below it seems to be 133 . 0 - not sure if that is all  - rang a couple of specialists who were unable to help over the blower, and nowt on the interwebs I can find so far

 

I stuck my cheapie OBD2 reader on and got   - P0113, intake air temp sensor 1, circuit high - however, I did try to start the car without the airfilter pipe to try pulling HT leads so this may be a red herring - I cleared the code and it hasn't come back - I did clean all the sensors I could find on and around the air filter etc just in case, nothing seemed particularly obvious, so I'm back to suspecting head gasket

 

So, my plan is for someone to tell me what that bloody code means, and/or take it to the nice man at the garage at the top of the street who sorted out our Lexus RX 300 electrical issues and get him to stick a code reader on and do a sniff test etc for the "good" news

 

On reflection, if it's the head gasket then it's time to get rid, if it's something relatively simple then hooray I'll continue on with enjoying the fabulous ride, I'm open to suggestions as to the cures as always, I did a couple of videos of the smoking and engine noises but don't know how to post them, so all help is muchly appreciated, cheers peeps

[Stevebrookman]

Ask on the Landyzone forum-as long as you don't mind a bit of "banter"-the advice I've had off there has been excellent.

 

Steve

[djimbob]

Ask on the Landyzone forum-as long as you don't mind a bit of "banter"-the advice I've had off there has been excellent.

 

Steve

 

They do seem a bit brutal occasionally!

 

I shall muster the courage, eventually

[djimbob]

Not very helpful update - nice man at the local garage doesn't have a sniffer device for checking for OMGHGF, but he said in his professional opinion it's an oil burning smell mostly, and looks like it too - which doesn't rule much in or out

 

However, at this juncture I want rid, it's not mint enough to warrant me paying someone to rip it apart and sort it out, and I'm not really up to the job myself etc and so on, so it really is up for SPEARS OR REAPERS, as it's FUCKED M8

 

A quick recap for the good and bad -

 

the ugly - bit of rust on the tailgate which has opened up a ventilation opportunity, few blebs here and there commensurate with age - the pics of the purchase early on in this thread are pretty accurate still, missing a wheel centre cap, gaffer taped up sunroof which still leaks in when parked at a certain incline - suspect new sunroof cassette needed as doesn't seal at all well (water drips onto the centre console and kills the stereo if you don't put a teatowel over the affected area). Some speakers work, most don't, I wired in some household jobbies which did the trick.

 

The sunroof motor whirrs but nowt happens, the manual overide does

 

The exhaust is leaking around the middle bit - I know this from the recent smog storm revealing all quite spectacularly

 

Interior is old and a bit worn but nowt terrible, just a part of the charm for me, including sagging headlining (TADTS)

 

The good -

 

gearbox, alternator, starter etc all worked great, wheels have good tyres and tread, most electrics work inc windows, mirrors, aircon holds gas but as per previous posts I have bodged a direct feed for when summer comes, currently unplugged, climate control works well, which is nice, gets up to temp very well and is toasty in the coldest conditions, unlike the heated seats which don't!

 

I can't think offhand much else to add, it's an old P38, was working lovely until the weekend, going cheap

 

I'd like to whip the new stereo out before the sale, probably got a replacement if anyone cares, otherwise come and give it a kick and chew the cud over the joys of Landrover ownership, looking for a fairly firm £400, not really into a swap but you never know, I like my big old barges, always automatic nowadays, and I was looking for a bit of a motorhome project but I do recognise an auto is a big ask here, so probably just dosh is on the cards

[djimbob]

damn that was quick, already claimed for spears, no prizes for guessing by who

[dieselnutjob]

The P38 GEMS ECU will reveal a lot more error codes in Landy mode than it does in OBD2 mode.

 

See the screenshot at http://pscan.uk/features/gems.html for an example.

 

I am waiting for a diesel ECU to turn up from a P38 so I can do that one.

 

If anyone near me in North / West London needs to get their P38 onto a real factory Landrover diagnostic tool then I can help.