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Kringle's Novichod - Xantia 2.0HDi 75k £600?

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#31 OFFLINE   AMC Rebel

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Posted 22 July 2018 - 11:33 AM

Dunno about the rest but "novichod" wins the internet in my book.


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Posted 22 July 2018 - 11:55 AM

And some tidbits

 

 

I thought that was only in America - I thought we were still allowed to say titbits over here?  (I may have missed a memo as well as the point of the thread).


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1994 Range Rover Classic "The Crying Pumpkin" cried off, rusty

2003 Jaaaag XJ 260K miles and counting

2000 Ford Mondeo Verona 1.8 pez FOR SALE Now with new As owner

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1968 AMC Rebel SST convertible (working and road legal but in limp home mode)

1967 AMC Rebel SST convertible (superior body and originality being slowly raided for spares for the '68) Off road for at least the last 25 years

1956 Chevy 210 4 door hardtop - bought in 2000 and still in my garage - I even do a bit of work on it occasionally - long term project

2005 MG ZT-T awaiting completion of engine transplant of spare V6 after OMG HGF on the engine that "never has that problem"

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Posted 22 July 2018 - 11:56 AM

Have seen them used in football to stem a nosebleed.

 

They were stuffed up my nose when I came around from the op to repair my dodgy septum.  I nearly passed out when they removed 'em.


1994 Range Rover Classic "The Crying Pumpkin" cried off, rusty

2003 Jaaaag XJ 260K miles and counting

2000 Ford Mondeo Verona 1.8 pez FOR SALE Now with new As owner

2000 Ford Puma 1.7 - Roffled and now with new AS owner

1968 AMC Rebel SST convertible (working and road legal but in limp home mode)

1967 AMC Rebel SST convertible (superior body and originality being slowly raided for spares for the '68) Off road for at least the last 25 years

1956 Chevy 210 4 door hardtop - bought in 2000 and still in my garage - I even do a bit of work on it occasionally - long term project

2005 MG ZT-T awaiting completion of engine transplant of spare V6 after OMG HGF on the engine that "never has that problem"

2005 Land Rover Discovery - for long trips and moving engines 


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Posted 22 July 2018 - 02:21 PM

I’m away till next Saturday but can check mine for reference then if you like. Same model and year exactly. I have a feeling it moves around a bit also.


Compared to Fraud_Senior's Xantia, that does look like a fair bit of play.

I presume the tester is worried that the pivot or its mounting is about to fail ; haven't heard of the former happening, but you do see broken welds and cracked bulkheads on occasion (VAG shite, in my experience).


Thanks folks, I cannot for the life of me look up to the mounting bolts to see for any damage/ play. Going to have another go in a minute, for information check this movement out on the Toyota!

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Posted 22 July 2018 - 02:40 PM

Most of my chod seems to have the clutch and brake pedals mounted on some sort of pivot with bushes and a pin running through the middle - the pin usually secured with a circlip or similar - I wonder if you maybe just need a nylon bush?


1994 Range Rover Classic "The Crying Pumpkin" cried off, rusty

2003 Jaaaag XJ 260K miles and counting

2000 Ford Mondeo Verona 1.8 pez FOR SALE Now with new As owner

2000 Ford Puma 1.7 - Roffled and now with new AS owner

1968 AMC Rebel SST convertible (working and road legal but in limp home mode)

1967 AMC Rebel SST convertible (superior body and originality being slowly raided for spares for the '68) Off road for at least the last 25 years

1956 Chevy 210 4 door hardtop - bought in 2000 and still in my garage - I even do a bit of work on it occasionally - long term project

2005 MG ZT-T awaiting completion of engine transplant of spare V6 after OMG HGF on the engine that "never has that problem"

2005 Land Rover Discovery - for long trips and moving engines 


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Posted 28 July 2018 - 07:24 PM

I just checked the brake pedal on my Xantia. It's exactly like yours, flops around in all directions like a piece of wet lettuce. Passed it's MOT in May and the tester was very happy with the state of the car.


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Posted 22 September 2018 - 12:18 PM

So, bit of an update.

Still awaiting the V5 which is naughty of a Citroen dealer, so I'm sending the new owners slip and V62 form off.

 

I had a mare with the rear bearings, one went on fine and the other made a mess of the axle thread. Maybe it was cross threaded, who knows.

 

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Rounded disc bolt was persuaded after reshaping with a dremel.

 

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Tired

 

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Fresh

 

Other side...

 

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Bollocks

 

So another entire arm was sourced from Langfords breakers, more good blokes found.

 

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After many hours swearing (and an unconventional method of aligning the ARB bolts) it was done.

 


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Posted 22 September 2018 - 12:29 PM

More updating...

 

On to the front now, and I stuck the car in for its MOT, I went to a decent place nearby as suggested by Wingz (thanks for your help) and the chap there was sound to deal with, will use again.

 

The first place told me that one side of the steering gaitor was missing. However after finding the exploded diagrams and noting an asymetrical design, the new MOT site failed it on the other side which had a hole. Fair enough, so back up on the jacks for another go...

 

I hear a noise from inside the car (Daddy, can you get me out Daddy?) to find this:

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Mini Kringle sorted and back to soaking the track rod end with plusgas.

Old one off, old boot off, new boot on. Lovely. New track rod correctly aligned and fitted.

 

I then wonder why the Mini Kringle's quiet...

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KIDS! Luckily no one died and I'm not writing this to you from prision, how she managed to get hold of the pack from hanging up near the ceiling I don't know.

Finished off the oil/ filter changes and called it a day.

 

MOT rebooked a few days later and BOOM, a shiny new ticket.


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Posted 22 September 2018 - 12:50 PM

Right, I've got to let this go because I have a certain Panda 100hp incoming (yes, that one).

 

Let me post some shots up and see if there's any expression of interest.

 

It's a W Reg Xantia 2.0HDI 90 Forte model (swish) with a full ticket, good tread on its tyres and suspension that goes up/ down/ and settles in the middle.

The ride isn't jiggly and the aircon blows hot and cold. Temperature settles nicely and there's no smoke whatsoever from this oil burner.

 

Pace is pretty good considering its size and also only being a 90.

Nothing is broken inside, brakes are typically Xantia pants being devoid of feel.

Clutch biting point is dead on, no slippage however it is heavy and can squeak, I lubricated the linkages but that didn't resolve it.

Steering is solid, slight wheeze when turning left.

 

It's done 75,500 miles and the car is as far as I can see, rust free. It spent a decade in spain and there is a date of 2013 for the cambelt change, however since 2008 it has done 9,000 miles so it can't be old.

 

It has plenty of marks and bad touch ups due to Giffer-ness and I will post the pictures up.

 

I need to prove to Mrs Kringle that I can have a car and not lose money on it, so if I could get £600 from a Shiter it will soften the blow to the news of a Panda who's lost a fight with a badger.

Insurance for me was £285 which isn't bad, not a classic policy either.

 

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Clean inside sill from rear arch inspection hole


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Posted 22 September 2018 - 01:01 PM

Bad luck on the pedal fail. When I took my Rover for its first test, it failed on the handbrake moving from side to side, though the brakes held fine. Turned out that all 4 bolts holding the assembly to the floor had come loose.

 

Hopefully, your pedal problem will be the fixings holding everything to the floor. Nice looking car, by the way, and a great price. Good luck with it



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Posted 22 September 2018 - 01:24 PM

There was no issue with the pedal, after removing half the dash and fuse box it was just citroen craftsmanship.

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Posted 22 September 2018 - 01:34 PM

That will make an excellent workhorse for someone. I’m needing to to the rear brake discs on mine and was wondering if you could give me any tips on how fragile the rear caliper is. As I understand it, you have to split the caliper to get the disc off.

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Posted 22 September 2018 - 02:24 PM

These are wonderful motors, I had a 110 W-reg and piled many thousands of miles on it in a very short period and never dipped below 42mpg, even when I drove it like a helmet.



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Posted 22 September 2018 - 02:30 PM

Broadsword, you take the middle bolt out of the caliper to remove the pads then the only thing to remember is to put the bolt back on, tightly, before taking the two big caliper bolts off. Otherwise muchos fluidos loss.

Brake hose seemed sturdy enough, no more fragile than any other car.

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Posted 22 September 2018 - 07:17 PM

Thanks Kringle, do you mean you actually got the caliper off in one piece like that without opening the circuit?

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Posted 23 September 2018 - 09:01 AM

Hydraulic circuit? Yes all in one, middle slender bolt out, pads off, slender bolt back in fully then the two bigger bolts off which hold the caliper to the hub. I think there's a youtube video somewhere.


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Posted 23 September 2018 - 10:34 AM

Yes without splitting the hydraulic circuit. Thanks, that is invaluable info. It will make changing the rear discs much less scary!

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Posted 23 September 2018 - 11:21 PM

Some tidy interior shots today, check out the rust free doors, yum yum.

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Posted 06 October 2018 - 01:00 PM

Washed it today, but it looks no different cos Silver init. But it's been thoroughly good at going to the tip, and waitrose/ lidl and other needless errands.

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Posted 06 October 2018 - 07:57 PM

I've still got a hankering for another Xantia, now the memory of my 1998 diesel one dying catastrophically has faded (it was over 10 years ago) a bit.

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Posted 06 October 2018 - 08:46 PM

Lovely. I don't do diesels, but if I did, I'd be hammering a path to your door leaving a trail of for sale adverts for discarded chod.


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Posted 06 October 2018 - 10:53 PM

Alluring, but a bad experience with a Xantia sinker I got for free puts me off. That was a turbo D, phase 1 (or whatever its called) - suspension was weird and the brakes were catastrophic and pulsed like a lentil.

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Posted 06 October 2018 - 11:15 PM

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Posted 07 October 2018 - 09:23 AM

Lovely thing.

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Posted 07 October 2018 - 09:33 AM

Looks lovely, what’s the big slider next to the hand brake?

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Posted 07 October 2018 - 09:40 AM

The slider allows you to select the suspension height. There are four settings.
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Posted 07 October 2018 - 12:12 PM

The intermediate setting is great for navigating floods in the road, but you can't drive on full low or full high.

One of the best nights of my life was accidentally booking a Travelodge by the Peterborough showground the same weekend that a pineapple vw show was on when I had the xm. I rocked up in the car park and parked right in the middle of a line of slammed vw shit, and dropped to the floor. Got a sea of confused faces as my car was lower than the vw tat, walked away smug!

Id love another xantia, but wouldn't be able to get the worry of the plastic clutch clip out of my head after it failing twice on my last one, which is a shame as I enjoyed mine immensely!
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Posted 07 October 2018 - 12:21 PM

The intermediate setting is great for navigating floods in the road, but you can't drive on full low or full high.

One of the best nights of my life was accidentally booking a Travelodge by the Peterborough showground the same weekend that a pineapple vw show was on when I had the xm. I rocked up in the car park and parked right in the middle of a line of slammed vw shit, and dropped to the floor. Got a sea of confused faces as my car was lower than the vw tat, walked away smug!

Id love another xantia, but wouldn't be able to get the worry of the plastic clutch clip out of my head after it failing twice on my last one, which is a shame as I enjoyed mine immensely!

 

Buy an Badermatic...........


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Posted 07 October 2018 - 07:55 PM

Buy an Badermatic...........


The thought has crossed my mind! Never one when I want one though etc
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Posted 08 October 2018 - 08:34 AM

The pen clip on the glove compartment in yours is intact.  Therefore my Xantia is worth at least 400 clams fewer than your Xantia. 

And that, indeed, is rather depressing.

My pen just rolls around the car, unfettered, detached from any real place of captive security.  Occasionally on its daily haphazard journey around the car's nether areas it will meet the coffee cup.

Its only peer in a holder-less void.


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