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#151 OFFLINE   Peter C

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 06:18 PM

Merc looks good. Worth investing in a pair of genuine wings?


I think so. I’m scanning the classifieds and Ebay for a decent pair of wings, preferably finished in white. My 200E will never be a minter but a pair of rust free wings would help with aesthetics.
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Posted 22 September 2018 - 10:04 AM

Since replacing the water pump back in June the engine has been running with just water in the cooling system.

I did some research on the internet to find out what antifreeze is best for the 200E and to shop around to get the BEST DEAL. Read more here:

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Thank you to everyone who contributed.

In the end I visited my local ECP and bought 5l of this for £16.99.

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I drained the contents of the cooling system and gave it a flush.

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With the cooling system bled, which took about half an hour, job done. The rain that was due this afternoon came at 10am so most of the action took place under cover.

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#153 OFFLINE   Peter C

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Posted 23 September 2018 - 04:18 PM

I’ve never been to the Newark Autojumble before so I figured it was time for a day trip.

Don’t forget to top up the fuel and check all fluids before a long trip.

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M40 eastbound heading towards the M25. Horrendous driving conditions!

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On the A1 heading north. This looks promising.

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But this doesn’t! I can’t remember the last time I checked the engine oil level.

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Contrary to the fact that it’s grim up north, the sun came out north of Peterborough.

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Upon arrival in Newark I checked the oil level. Yep, the little light was telling the truth. Better get some oil for the journey home.

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Another disappointing event. The autojumble wasn’t that big, most of the stalls had motorcycle related tat and within an hour of my arrival a lot of sellers had packed up and left. Something I said?

I did get a W201 wheeltrim for a fiver, the same design and size as the W124 wheeltrim but it doesn’t have the chrome ring around the edge. It’s still a useful spare in case I lose any of mine.

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Oil topped up, purchased at the autojumble for a fiver.

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The journey home was uneventful, the 200E is very happy cruising at 70-80MPH and my lack of attention to the engine oil level issue aside, we clocked up a very happy near 300 miles.

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Posted 23 September 2018 - 04:26 PM

Verdict - Newark autojumble not worth the trip?

 

I live quite close to Newark and have never been to the autojumble. I really don't see why I should pay to go in to look at people selling stuff and probably won't find the bits I'm after.


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Posted 23 September 2018 - 04:35 PM

I don't know if anyone already pointed out but shouldn't the car run slightly hotter? My M111 used to run at 78-79c with colder 71c Thermostat and that had horrendous fuel economy. After putting on original spec thermostat and the car running at 82-87c I gained about 4-5mpg. There's nothing wrong with cold running engine other than increased fuel economy and slight wear, of course.

 

I always reckoned that people put 71c thermostat on when the car has cooling issue, or if they're that much of a cheapskate they even just punch the thermostat through!



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Posted 23 September 2018 - 06:06 PM

Verdict - Newark autojumble not worth the trip?

I live quite close to Newark and have never been to the autojumble. I really don't see why I should pay to go in to look at people selling stuff and probably won't find the bits I'm after.


On a warm summers day, with the field full and if you get there early enough, it’s probably worth going. On a day like today it was pants.
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Posted 23 September 2018 - 06:07 PM

I don't know if anyone already pointed out but shouldn't the car run slightly hotter? My M111 used to run at 78-79c with colder 71c Thermostat and that had horrendous fuel economy. After putting on original spec thermostat and the car running at 82-87c I gained about 4-5mpg. There's nothing wrong with cold running engine other than increased fuel economy and slight wear, of course.

I always reckoned that people put 71c thermostat on when the car has cooling issue, or if they're that much of a cheapskate they even just punch the thermostat through!


Around town the engine will reach approx 86 degrees but on a 60MPH+ run it’s over cooling. I need to investigate this further.
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Posted 24 September 2018 - 05:17 AM

Around town the engine will reach approx 86 degrees but on a 60MPH+ run it’s over cooling. I need to investigate this further.

 

From memory - there are two thermostats.  a 78 and an 82.  (I seem to remember this when I had my old 190e totally overhauled).  Worth investigating further - it might be bust, but it might also be on the way out.


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#159 OFFLINE   Peter C

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 06:07 AM

From memory - there are two thermostats. a 78 and an 82. (I seem to remember this when I had my old 190e totally overhauled). Worth investigating further - it might be bust, but it might also be on the way out.


I replaced the thermostat a couple of months ago so hopefully it hasn’t failed already. I shall investigate and report back.
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Posted 24 September 2018 - 08:01 AM

Newank autojumble hasn’t been any good for years. If you want an overpriced NOS wing for a Riley 45/76 or Austin Atrocious maybe but for regular stuff, no.

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 08:36 AM

I replaced the thermostat a couple of months ago so hopefully it hasn’t failed already. I shall investigate and report back.

 

I assume it was some sort of aftermarket thermostat? They're a bit hit and miss but there doesn't appear to be any issue other than running slightly cold on motorway so it could indeed be just colder thermostat.

 

On my M111, when I drive on motorway the temperature stay at slightly above 80c, in the city it's about 84-86c, and only once in my ownership that it got up to 90c+ (it was a particularly hot day in stopped traffic). Not even a near vertical grade with constant first gear made it went above 87c. Mind you, my mechanic said that as long as it doesn't go over the mark between 80 and 120 it's fine. (That's 100c). Before I did the thermostat it never went above 80c no matter how much I caned it.

 

From what I've heard, older M102 and M103 does run slightly hotter than M111 and M104. With more issue in heavy traffic. On M111 there are 2 type of thermostat, 71c and 87c. Some creative people modified BMW thermostat and have 82c as an intermediate option. I'm sure similar choice is offered with M102 thermostat. It would be written on the thermo plate itself anyway.


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:16 AM

My brother in law is on holiday in Cyprus and earlier today he caught a cab.

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Apparently it is in really good condition but it’s hiding a secret.

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That’s about 600k miles. It’s probably ready for the same again!
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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:56 AM

On a warm summers day, with the field full and if you get there early enough, it’s probably worth going. On a day like today it was pants.

 

I used to be a regular at Newark, gone downhill a bit since the Autojumble was taken over by new owners.

The stallholders do watch the weather, as much is outdoors. Area to the right as you go in tends to be Bikes.

Starts 10am £7, but you can get in between 8am and 10am for £10. 

All the bargains have gone before 10am, early customers (me) and other Stallholders snap them up.

You used to get free admission, drive your car in, with a Classic Car, probably still do, but only at 10am and different entrance to the punters.







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