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1993 Lancia Dedra 1.6 (8v with Cat) Now won't start £100 MOT August 18, 146k.

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#1 ONLINE   bramz7

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 05:52 PM

Sigh,

 

This was one car I was genuinely looking forward to getting. I'd seen it on the ebay tat thread as well as in my saved searches and a non reserve priced, slightly tatty but (apparently) fundamentally working Dedra really appealed. I thought, hey I have had two Tipos, I know roughly what to expect. Well that didn't necessarily pan out.

 

Here she is in all her splendour: 

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The lights work! Actually these are probably the best headlights on an old car I have ever had. They are excellent. And the spots actually light up bits you can't see. And they look class.

 

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For the most part, it all works from an electrics perspective, which was surprising. Lights, windows, sunroof, fuel gauge, temp gauge, warning light system (with the exception of the oil dipstick sensor which does not) stereo, fan, heater, aerial (apparently) and central locking, even the weird 80s fob still works. From certain angles I stress.

 

However there is some ugly:

 

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This door is toast. Tape would see it through an MOT but from a future weather proofing side of things, good luck finding another.

 

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Yes these will need some work. To be fair, whilst these apparently don't rust, this one most certainly has. And quite well too. Makes my Tipo look even better than it is.

 

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Driver seat obviously needing some attention. But that just means whoever drove it 145k really loved it right? It's still comfortable enough mind you, in fact these seats are damn good for what is in effect a rebadged Tipo.

 

However the worst parts are the running issues it has. 60% of the time it runs spot on. Idles as it should and sits at 3500rpm all day long. But the other 40% it is hesitant, juttery at speed, cutting out when slowing down. I hate that. My other half hates it too. It could just be a dodgy fuel filter, it could be an ECU fault. Speaking of which, it comes with another ECU, so if that sorts it, even better. 

There is a droning noise at speed too, previous owner said he replaced the wheel bearing so...

Tyres are all decent. Alloys may need refurb but still look okay from a distance. 

 

Starts first time!

Speedo doesn't work! Boo. 70 is about 3500rpm in 5th, 50 is about 2500rpm, 30 is about 2300 in 4th. There, don't even need it.

 

Has interior trim dandruff. Well kind of. A speaker surround fell off on the way back.

 

Quite tidy inside overall. 

 

Brakes are pretty cack but a lot of older Fiat stuff seems to be like this so unsure if that is an actual issue.

 

Only has 75bhp but by jove it uses all of it when it needs to. And the gruff exhaust note is constantly nagging you to go harder. It genuinely is a proper drivers car when it works but I just can't do this one. I really wish the ebay advert had been up front about this, as I thought it ran fine. But there we go. Yet another lesson learned.

 

Cost me £343 yesterday.

 

£250 to anyone on here. 

 

Might rofl but it will be £4.50 a ticket.

 

PM me any questions, please.

 

Really annoyed at myself for this one.

 

 

 

 

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#2 ONLINE   bramz7

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 06:19 PM

Despite the aforementioned running issues I can assist in delivery. For costs of course.


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 06:28 PM

That is the best dashboard I've ever seen!
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 06:36 PM

whats yon thing next to the clock



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Posted 08 April 2018 - 06:36 PM

What's the dial next to the clock for?

GLWS also.


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 06:37 PM

whats yon thing next to the clock


What's the dial next to the clock for?

GLWS also.


Seems to be an economy gauge.
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 06:42 PM

Basically, drive sane and it sits in the middle. Drive mental and it'll go into the red. It does work too. 


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 06:45 PM

Here's the bit from the user manual

 

http://www.berlinasp...ok 1 Dalis.pdf

 

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 07:11 PM

That is cracking!


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 07:22 PM

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 07:25 PM

Where is it at the moment?

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 07:31 PM

My brother had a Volvo 340 which he retrofitted an OEM economy meter to. All you had to do was think about touching the accelerator pedal and it'd go straight into the red. 'green' was only achieved going downhill in gear. Wish they were still a 'thing' though. It was cool driving like a maximo giffer to see how close you could get it to the green bit.


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 07:40 PM

My brother had a Volvo 340 which he retrofitted an OEM economy meter to. All you had to do was think about touching the accelerator pedal and it'd go straight into the red. 'green' was only achieved going downhill in gear. Wish they were still a 'thing' though. It was cool driving like a maximo giffer to see how close you could get it to the green bit.


I have a NoS aftermarket one if you want to relive the days!

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:01 PM

Where is it at the moment?

Its in Reading.
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:05 PM

My MK1 fiesta has economy lights on the speedo   Obviously ,I've never lit up the red one , as I'm a fantastic driver :-D


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:09 PM

I have a NoS aftermarket one if you want to relive the days!

 

I think that other than a propshaft, he/we have nothing else from any of the several 340's he had. Heroic it may be, but building an entire volvo 340 around an econometer is probably stretching my abilities a bit!


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:16 PM

I think that other than a propshaft, he/we have nothing else from any of the several 340's he had. Heroic it may be, but building an entire volvo 340 around an econometer is probably stretching my abilities a bit!

it will fit any car for that 340 feel ;-) (well possibly)

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:39 PM

Did you forget to mention MOT August

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:46 PM

Jesus boy, you go though more cars than I do shits in a week! How many is that now?! I hate to know what you spend on insurance adjustments.
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:50 PM

Jesus boy, you go though more cars than I do shits in a week! How many is that now?! I hate to know what you spend on insurance adjustments.


Well....

Probably about 30 now. But this isn't on a daily insurance policy.


As I really want this gone, £200 to a shiter.

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:55 PM

Wiki says its a Lancia Dedra is an compact "executive"  car, so Skizzer should buy it .

 

 

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 09:03 PM

Brammy mate you're doing it all wrong. The idea is you BUY it for 200 quid and sell it within the week for £343.
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 09:04 PM

Brammy mate you're doing it all wrong. The idea is you buy it for 200 quid and sell it within the week for £343.


Ha! Well ideally that is what I'd do but unfortunately my honesty in adverts doesn't turn into profit.

I have made money on cars before but I don't do it for that.
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 09:09 PM

Before you give up, can you find if it has the diagnostic 3-pin EMS socket. I've just seen a PDF stating the Dedra has one

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 09:23 PM

That is the best dashboard I've ever seen!

You want to see the one fitted to the Lancia it replaced!


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 09:38 PM

Fuuuuuck

I was lusting after this on eBay as a superb stablemate to the Toledo.
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 09:41 PM

Dermist on here bought Skizzer's old Dedra, so it might be worth sending him a PM just in case he needs a spares car (or can be tempted in owning another white Dedra...)

 

Bad luck on this one bramz, we've all been there.


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 09:55 PM

Dermist on here bought Skizzer's old Dedra, so it might be worth sending him a PM just in case he needs a spares car (or can be tempted in owning another white Dedra...)

Bad luck on this one bramz, we've all been there.

Cheers Rob, sent him a Pm.

Does mean I'm now going to the FotU in the Xantia.
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 10:51 PM

Cheers Rob, sent him a Pm.

Does mean I'm now going to the FotU in the Xantia.

Not necessarily, I predict the Xantia, a MK1 Laguna, Mégane and another 405 will have passed through your hands by then.
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 11:58 PM

JESUS FUCK ARGH
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