fraser.innes.3 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Due to the unexpected bill for £660 to replace the tyres on my wife's car, I have come to the disappointing realisation that I cannot afford to run this beast, therefore it is up for grabs. Hopefully with Meshking's permission, it can be collected from his abode in Surrey. To be a bit different, I thought that we could hold a blind auction instead of a roffle. It works like this if you have an interest in this, then PM me with your offer. The cut-off time for last bids will be 8pm on Saturday the 24th. You can submit as many bids as you want and the highest bid after the cut-off time will be deemed to be the winner. To try and get the Hendry fund over the grand mark, I will also be donation 25% of the winning bid to said fund. Orignal roffle thread with car details is here - http://autoshite.com/topic/31263-ex-junkman-range-rover-p38-drawn-thanks-for-playing/ Cheers Fraser alf892 and oldcars 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mally Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Dave numbers to the Beige phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave21478 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 yyyyyeah.....about that. This guy immediately turning it round for profit without even collecting it doesnt sit well with me.Also, pitting autoshiters against each other in a blind auction strikes me as very much against the community spirit. A few years back I won the 405 estate roffle and couldnt collect. I openly auctioned it on the site and after my ticket price was covered, the rest was donated to the forum. Steviemillar, blakey79, catsinthewelder and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arfur Foxache Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Message sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardthestag Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 paying £12 for the chance to win is ever slightly more attractive than chucking 4 figures about. Roffle it for godsake man edited to add £660 for tyres? 25 please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraser.innes.3 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 yyyyyeah.....about that. This guy immediately turning it round for profit without even collecting it doesnt sit well with me.Also, pitting autoshiters against each other in a blind auction strikes me as very much against the community spirit. A few years back I won the 405 estate roffle and couldnt collect. I openly auctioned it on the site and after my ticket price was covered, the rest was donated to the forum.Sorry if you feel that way Dave. If the only offer is 99p, then that is what it will go for. If I did not have to pay £660 for tyres for my wife's car (all damaged by potholes) then I would be picking this up on Sunday, But the cheapest quote that I got for insurance was £280, and add tax on, then I am looking at investing over £500 on a car that I really have no use for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltox Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just roffle it rather than whatever the fuck this bollocks is meant to be It sold out faster than almost anything before flat4alfa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coprolalia Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Roffle it cheap, give % of profits to Hendry fund/ forum, and we're all happy. Part of the joy of the roffle is being closed involved in the winners happy* success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave21478 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Sorry if you feel that way Dave. If the only offer is 99p, then that is what it will go for. If I did not have to pay £660 for tyres for my wife's car (all damaged by potholes) then I would be picking this up on Sunday, But the cheapest quote that I got for insurance was £280, and add tax on, then I am looking at investing over £500 on a car that I really have no use for. The whole problem with a blind auction is if I offer 99p and Skizzer offers 700 quid. He rightly wins it but....... Good for your wallet but not fair for Skizzer. Blatant profiteering from other members isnt what Autoshite is about. richardthestag, loserone, blakey79 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83C Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I'm not comfortable with a blind auction either - ought to be a re-roffle. Blind auctions aren't in the spirit of AS. I'd take a brace of randoms if they were suitably priced. dave21478, John F and richardthestag 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave21478 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I want the car, but there is no fucking way I am entering a blind auction. The way I see it there are three fair options that fit the forum ethos. (Others may disagree)1 - re-roffle it. If the tickets are cheap, perhaps limit the number of tickets per person in the interests of fairness.2 - Auction it. Open bids on this thread. Highest bidder at closing time according to the forum clock wins.3 - maybe controversial, but declare the roffle void, sell your tickets to someone else and the list from the old thread stands for a new draw. The Old Bloke Next Door, Kiltox, flat4alfa and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Number 3 sounds fair, then use the next draw. loserone and dome 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Agree with the above; entering a roffle is a commitment to pick up the risks and rewards associated with winning. Even when i buy tickets for others, i'm more than prepared to pick up the win if the recipient didn't actually want ot. If you can't take it, you can't, that's fair. So sell your ticket on and redraw. Dick Longbridge, CGSB, Junkman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Furious Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I would be in for a re-roffle on the same terms as before Out for the blind auction though. (I'm not against it on any kind of principle, I just don't want it enough to pay more than £12) stephen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 The car should be roffled for £12, which makes it 20p a ticket.I'll have 1 to 59, please. Captain Furious, The Old Bloke Next Door, Supernaut and 19 others 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I think we need to be a bit careful to get the rules straight though, otherwise we'll get people flipping roffle won cars left right and centre. Yes, unexpected bills suck, I see the situation here and 100% can see it applying to me, so that's not an issue, but we need to decide what happens as a group, so if/when it happens again, we know the drill. I hesitate to use a breadvan-ism but the precedant will be set by this, it's the first time it's happened IIRC in these circumstances, where the car hasnt been collected yet? loserone, Junkman, 83C and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 But we all agree that a blind auction is a bit shit, no? barefoot, DeeJay, Captain Furious and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleyeller Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 If you try and do this, you earn money when in reality, you didn't really have the right to? He's got every right to do whatever he likes with a car he won fair and square yyyyyeah.....about that. This guy immediately turning it round for profit without even collecting it doesnt sit well with me. Fair enough, but there's nothing to stop him. The whole problem with a blind auction is if I offer 99p and Skizzer offers 700 quid. He rightly wins it but....... Good for your wallet but not fair for Skizzer. Blatant profiteering from other members isnt what Autoshite is about. Yeah, that's a fair point "I've got another bidder on the phone" sort of thing. But anyway, it's all by the way as far as I can see. Don't have any real problem with what is proposed tbh. His car, he won it having gambled £12 so he can do whatever he likes with it. Blatant profiteering? Not in my book, he/she is finding out what their win is worth by asking what people are willing to pay. Anything over £12 will be a profit. I'm not interested, so I'm not going to take part. Same thing I keep saying, if it's not for you/to your tastes, probably easier just to move on without posting on the thread. Christine, D Spares & Tyres, Cavcraft and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltox Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Same thing I keep saying, if it's not for you/to your tastes, probably easier just to move on without posting on the thread.[/background][/font][/color]More than happy to sling shit at this thread though? http://autoshite.com/topic/31386-knobvan/?do=findComment&comment=1459634 dave21478, spartacus, DodgyBastard and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetleysmooth Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Oh mate, you've left yourself wide open here.I got flamed a couple of days ago for admitting I wrote a letter to my GP. It's the way this forum is now. If you want a bit of advice from an old geezer, I'd let this thread die, or better still, ask a mod to delete it completely.Then collect the car and sell it privately. It's your car, your rules, but I'd keep it well away from here. Good luck with whatever decision you make. The Old Bloke Next Door, richardthestag and Christine 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Furious Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 The only really unfair option in the list is number 3 - I see no reason why he should give it away, having won it fair and square. It is his car to do with as he pleases, and if that means immediately selling\re-roffling it then great - gives me another shot at winning. We don't really need to lay down rules on this - the 'market' will decide if there is any 'blatant profiteering' going on or not and boycott accordingly. 37 please Fabergé Greggs, beko1987, Junkman and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardthestag Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 If roffle dont kick off soon I am voting with feet and you can do what you like with it. I am guessing meshking still has it insured? on his drive? he is knocking up costs for all this fucking about surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleyeller Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 More than happy to sling shit at this thread though? http://autoshite.com/topic/31386-knobvan/?do=findComment&comment=1459634 Not shit slinging, just having a laugh, but met a humorless response. I removed the comment when an objection was raised - but I still don't think anyone would see that as anything more than a bit of fun and a mild ribbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcars Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 WULD U TAKE 80 M8 OR SWAP FOR DEEP FAT FRIER M8 LIVES IN WHALES CAN U DILIVER Squire_Dawson, doubleyeller, Dave_Q and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleyeller Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Oh mate, you've left yourself wide open here.I got flamed a couple of days ago for admitting I wrote a letter to my GP. It's the way this forum is now. If you want a bit of advice from an old geezer, I'd let this thread die, or better still, ask a mod to delete it completely.Then collect the car and sell it privately. It's your car, your rules, but I'd keep it well away from here. Good luck with whatever decision you make. Can you imagine the sort of humanity* that would get in contact over a sub £1k Range Rover with 6 month's ticket on Gumtree? Put it on carandclassic for £1500, my guess is you'll get at least £1200 before the day is out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Furious Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Ssshh! You're going to drive the sale outside of AS and I want another go at the roffle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraser.innes.3 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Ok, this has now been sold privately to a forum member. Once paid, i will add another donation to the Hendry fund which will take it over £1000. And it was sold for a lot less than I could have got for it on Ebay of Gumtree. Captain Furious, oldcars, Sigmund Fraud and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Then change the flag to 'sold' and let us know when Skizzer is going to pick it up. Christine, richardthestag, Slartibartfast and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcars Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Ok, this has now been sold privately to a forum member. Once paid, i will add another donation to the Hendry fund which will take it over £1000. And it was sold for a lot less than I could have got for it on Ebay of Gumtree.Less than gumtree, you must be getting a non eaten twix then. Result. Junkman, doubleyeller and Christine 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mally Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Hope they come for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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