fatharris Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 No time for that today, I was a man on a mission. At 4pm, I had the afternoon free, and I was going to put it to good use. I opened the door to my collection of cleaned bits and piled them on the lawn. Luckily, I wrote down the order of what I took off, so it was just a matter of going from the bottom upwards. OO-ER. Even arranged and labelled the bolts, including the spanner/socket size. This was going to be a breeze. First up, the ISOFIX fittings and rear seatbelt buckles. Then the remaining headlining components got fitted. At this point, I neglected to take photos, so have pictures of me knocking through my to-do list. Going... Going... ...gone! Next up, getting the bugger started again, as the battery was flat as a witches tit and drawing too much current for my charger (kept tripping out). My tactic of using a spare battery to jump it proved fruitless as the batteries I had lovingly kept were also shagged. Luckily, the Rover prevailed, and after five minutes of sucking on electricity, he finally fired up. Jumped straight into a misfire though, naturally. I really need to get rid of those old doors. Wonder if they're worth anything in scrap value. These were the O2 sensor values whilst the car was idling after I reset the EML and the car was firing on all cylinders. I am not spammed up on these systems, are these readings all right? Finally, I used my phone for some snaps of the now-fitted interior. It's still a bit hairy in places but it smells infinitely better. Next plan is to tax and insure it from the 1st, use it for a bit and drop it to TwoSmoke to work his magic. Thanks for reading! Lord Sterling, vulgalour, Nyphur and 18 others 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 My word that's impressively clean oldcars and jumpingjehovahs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtriple Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 That looks awesome! Utterly fantastic work, I shall sell all my cars to you in future and then buy them back once cleaned I do hope you get the misfire sorted because it is bloody annoying and the thing flies when it is running well with a real kicj at about 3500 rpm. Worth doing, I just wish I had instead of wasting copious quantities of dosh on the other fucking heap! Enjoy Ohdearme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 That's some impressive work right there! I wonder how many other folk would literally strip their cars interior to clean it properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Thats some grade one organisational skills on the interior man. Top work. It took me, johnk, google and youtube just to find the fucking battery on a Picasso last night. Spoiler: its under the floor under the passenger seat. fatharris and Bucketeer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 A smol update. I taxed and insured the Kia to get it moving again as it hasn't turned a wheel in anger since I got it. The first drive out was terrible - down on power, misfiring and stodgy, unresponsive brakes. Subsequent drives proved a lot better though - the brakes sharpened up nicely, as I set off straight away, the misfire only kicked in once, and the power delivery was crisp and smooth. Unfortunately, when the misfire came back, I scanned codes and the pending codes showed a misfire code had been posted for each individual cylinder. So something that links them is clearly playing up. Does only seem to be evident only when the engine is warming up. Ah well, it's off to TwoSmoke on the 12th for further investigation - I genuinely hope it isn't too expensive to fix, as I may* have already got plans afoot to pick up a new car soon, which means the Kia will definitely be going up for sale soon. Interior smells grand though. theshadow, oldcars and HarmonicCheeseburger 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 That’s a bit of a shame - didn’t you flatten the battery when you were cleaning it up? Could it be some slight lack of voltage triggering the misbehaviour that a longer run might cure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Bloody ace looking car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingz123 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 That's some impressive work right there! I wonder how many other folk would literally strip their cars interior to clean it properly?Head over to detailingworld.... many many threads under the showroom and restoration section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 That’s a bit of a shame - didn’t you flatten the battery when you were cleaning it up? Could it be some slight lack of voltage triggering the misbehaviour that a longer run might cure?It was still misfiring after the 150 mile journey back home so I don't think battery voltage is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Mmm, yes 150 miles should do it or so I would have thought. Let’s hope it’s something small that just needs the ecu codes cleared or a loose wire tightened. It is a nice looking car isnt it? Quite handsome and understated, can imagine it’s a nice place to be on a long journey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Sounds horribly Ecu related . Misfire for every cylinder ? Usually the injectors/ coils have a 12v feed via the ign switch and are switched to earth by the Ecu .Think I’ll be checking the Ecu powers and grounds first fatharris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 Oh, and I only insured it for three days. The cost? TWENTY TWO BASTARD QUID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 Had a minor FTP today - just cranked, started lumpily and died. Same symptoms as the crank sensor failure in the BMW. Coincidence? Perhaps. But eventually he started again and drove home all right. The insurance runs out tonight at midnight and won't be renewed until next week for another few days. But still... SAD SELFIE. Skut, Jim Bell and beko1987 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Classic crank sensor symptoms - similar face that I pulled when Herman conked out on me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtriple Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I was always waiting for it to go wrong properly, I thought (in my infinite wisdom!) that it would make fault finding easier! I hope it does 'cos it's a nice car to drive when on 6 and going properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve79 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 From what's being discussed on the US forums for Kia and Hyundai, the delta and theta v6 suffer a lot from coil pack issues. Interestingly I came across the following youtube video about a santa fe suffering similar issues and turning out to the the crank sensor wiring. Worth considering! https://youtu.be/prhEdlHweFEI'll refer you back to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 I'll refer you back to thisI just scrolled back and watched it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just wondering....... you know, for when you get bored with the Kia..............how much might it be available for? Just theoretically........... Wingz123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 I'll be able to come up with a more reliable figure once TwoSmoke has looked at the running issues, and it'll be having a set of tyres, an MOT and possibly a service. But, I have a new car on the way, and you're a shiter so it'll be reasonable. purplebargeken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 This is only the third time I've put fuel in the Kia! Now dropped off for investigation into the misfire. Wingz123, Dan_ZTT, mrbenn and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 I haven't updated this yet, but I'm glad I let TwoSmoke on this as he has a scope (as well as actual knowledge ), which revealed this signal from the crank sensor: In his words: "Bit of a messy signal - the random high/ low spikes . Without another one to scope it’s hard to say if it’s interference or not . Engine revs change when you poke the crank sensor wiring . Right twat to get to but looking like a good place to start" A new sensor is on order so we'll know if that was the culprit after it is fitted. mrbenn, oldcars, Jim Bell and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingz123 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 ^ Hope it is and your troubles are sorted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Me too - with a new arrival on the driveway due before the weekend, I need to get this Kia turned around sharpish. oldcars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Fingers and testicles crossed man. Whats incoming? purplebargeken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Fingers and testicles crossed man. Whats incoming?Something wholly inappropriate that will be revealed in due time. Jim Bell and dome 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I bet it's a blue Citroen AX. The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 Bad news - it wasn't the crank sensor at fault. Potentially good news - disconnecting and reconnecting the ECU /seems/ to have done the trick. Very good news - this exchange seemed worthy of "quote of the year": Sigmund Fraud, Supernaut, djimbob and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 Okay, I'm not after ideas on how to put a spin on this misfire. It shuts down an injector, so "automatic engaging economy fuel saving mode"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Self modulating auto stop start eco mode. fatharris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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