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#31 OFFLINE   purplebargeken

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 03:24 PM

Starter motor was swapped with loads of help from my mate. It was a slightly hassley job but not too bad in the scheme of things. 

 

Battery reconnected, key turned............ a very faint click from the rear end but no roaring into life as we were anticipating.

 

Bugger.

 

Battery was good, it was fully charged and ready to go.

 

The starter motor that came with the car was used but presumed good.

 

Just wondering as to alternative issues, perhaps broken earth strap. Just got to work out where that is lol.

 

Bit disappointed but will be investigated further. Any other ideas?


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 03:59 PM

Have you tried tapping the starter incase the solenoid is stuck? Have had a couple of cars that have done this and you could go to them an hour or two later and they start first time. Are you sure the battery is ok, has it been drop tested.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 04:30 PM

I think my mate tried to tap it but didn't seem to make much difference. Drop tested??


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 04:42 PM

Drop testing is the way you can test a battery, a car battery can make 12v but may be weak on the CCA (cold cranking amps), drop testing is applying a load to the battery to check that it is producing enough CCA. The old way of testing was by a machine like a set of prongs that set on the terminals with a dial to test the battery, but the garage I use has a all singing dancing electronic version.

In my old caddy it gradually got worse starting even though the battery made 12v, tested it, fucked. Another warranty return for ecp. New battery happy days.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 05:22 PM

I am hopeful that it is merely a case of either a fuse or a knackered earth point. However, if a new starter motor is required then one can be obtained for around 75 quid. 


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 10:18 PM

I now have a list of all the earth point locations, there are quite a few! Will see if I can rig up an earth between the body and the engine too.

 

At least my last used 10+ years ago 110v lighting rig worked perfectly. I was so pleased as it would have been a nightmare trying to do the starter motor swap otherwise.


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Posted 18 March 2018 - 01:59 PM

Quick update. I took off and cleaned the 3 earth points at the front of the car.  A couple were a little manky but not horrible. I also used a starter pack on the battery, just in case. No joy at all.

 

Earth cleaning abandoned due to no feeling in hands.

 

Monday or Tuesday will see further input. 

 

There are a couple of earth points in the engine compartment. I will also rig up a temp earth between the engine and the body of the car to see if that makes a difference.

 

I can't be that unlucky as to have two non-functioning starter motors, surely.


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Posted 18 March 2018 - 02:29 PM

I assume the engine turned over by hand?
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Posted 18 March 2018 - 03:52 PM

Not checked tbh mate but was a runner I believe when put into storage. I think so anyway.


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Posted 18 March 2018 - 04:31 PM

Are the lights dimming when turning the key into start position? (With the starter fitted and connected)
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Posted 18 March 2018 - 04:32 PM

Lights? Headlights or dash lights?

 

If headlights, no idea, not tried that. If dash lights, all bright and shiny.


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Posted 18 March 2018 - 05:22 PM

Connect the engine block to battery negative with a jump lead then try.

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Posted 18 March 2018 - 07:25 PM

That is my next plan but the battery is at one end of the sodding car to the engine lol.


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Posted 24 March 2018 - 05:55 PM

An interesting day. Jack of this parish popped over and we scooter brake fettled to good effect. Scooter fun ensued.

Jack helped turn the mgf around so as to make it easier to work on. Jack suggested that it would be good to have a quick check on the wiring to the starter. He had a multimeter at home but had a small led version with him. He checked the little lead that fastened by spade connector. The 12v supply was there but the connector was filthy. A brief clean and that was enough to have the car roar into life!!
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Posted 24 March 2018 - 06:10 PM

An interesting day. Jack of this parish popped over and we scooter brake fettled to good effect. Scooter fun ensued.

Jack helped turn the mgf around so as to make it easier to work on. Jack suggested that it would be good to have a quick check on the wiring to the starter. He had a multimeter at home but had a small led version with him. He checked the little lead that fastened by spade connector. The 12v supply was there but the connector was filthy. A brief clean and that was enough to have the car roar into life!!

Next stop MOT!


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Posted 25 March 2018 - 08:03 PM

Mate today gave me a lovely new correct size spade connector for the starter motor! Will fit it later in the week. MOT to be booked for this week as well, just got to refit the front N/S indicator.


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Posted 26 March 2018 - 10:28 PM

I really can't wait to get this on the road again. I'm glad that Jon was able to keep the car in a barn type environment, I think that this made a major step to keeping it pretty much intact. 

 

Must remember to get the bumper, wheel and spare key............... note to self!!!


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Posted 27 March 2018 - 07:35 PM

I've been offered a green R reg, 99k mot Feb 19. Last mot it failed on rust to strut tops and headlights but was fixed. Price is £500 although there may be negotiation. In daily use and looks smart. Luggage rack and hardtop. What do you think? What's it worth?
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Posted 27 March 2018 - 09:02 PM

Hard tops are a couple of hundred so whats there to lose?
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Posted 28 March 2018 - 07:34 PM

With those issues, more like 400 to 450 tbh, flog the hard top for 150 to 200. 

 

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Posted 28 March 2018 - 07:35 PM

Oh by the way, she passed her MOT. A slight mention of 'the handbrake could be better' was made. 

 

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Posted 28 March 2018 - 07:36 PM

Sell luggage rack for about 50 quid. 


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Posted 28 March 2018 - 07:38 PM

With those issues, more like 400 to 450 tbh, flog the hard top for 150 to 200.

Do the car up and have a good hoon.


Do you mean that the strut tops won't have been fixed properly, just tarted up? She did say that the sills maybe a bit rusty too. I think you are right with £350 ish. These are so cheap aren't they.
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Posted 28 March 2018 - 07:57 PM

They are cheap indeed. 500 quid is waaay too much. Although as said, you could recoup a fair chunk with flogging the hard top and luggage rack. The repairs could well have been done properly.

 

Take some piccies and chuck them up here and we can see what's what then :0


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Posted 31 March 2018 - 08:13 PM

Little MGF will be fully road legal for tomorrow, first stop will be to the local T*sco jetwash to get rid of the mud underneath and in the wheel arches lol.

 

Then petrol. Then hoon.


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Posted 31 March 2018 - 08:17 PM

Brilliant news Ken, hope the weather is decent......

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 08:43 PM

It won't be.

 

MGF, floppy top and bank holiday weekend = rain like a bastard.


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Posted 31 March 2018 - 08:57 PM

:lol: good point, I was in Italy with work week before last, got fucking snow in Naples region! Saw some superb chod though.
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Posted 01 April 2018 - 07:23 AM

Mostly old Fiat 500's right?


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Posted 01 April 2018 - 07:30 AM

Taxed!!!!


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