Jim Bell Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 My life is a joke to you Kenneth? What kind of fucking animal would have fish and chips with no gravy? Not this one. Not this animal. Christine, DodgyBastard, Parky and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Have you tried the pedal test? Tells you pretty much what opcom would but for free. I do that on my Coupe (same engine). Not that it helps you at all, nor might it be the culprit, but fried ECUs are a 'thing' on these unfortunately. Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Gravy? Oh dear sweet baby Jesus. You may as well have guacamole instead of mushy peas. GrumpiusMaximus, madrat, alf892 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 Have you tried the pedal test? Tells you pretty much what opcom would but for free. I do that on my Coupe (same engine). Not that it helps you at all, nor might it be the culprit, but fried ECUs are a 'thing' on these unfortunately.Google agrees. Whats the pedal test man? Im sick of google gor today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 Gravy? Oh dear sweet baby Jesus. You may as well have guacamole instead of mushy peas.This is why the north and south cannot be friends. alf892, GrumpiusMaximus, Craig the Princess and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felly Magic Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Fish & chips need to come with scraps/bits/crispies, and be properly filleted and have no bloody skin on. Bad news on the ungreatful Vauxhall bastard there Wilsonsquared, seems like Datsuncog's Renner luck is catching Jim Bell and Datsuncog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Youll need to be Quick Draw McGraw with a pen and paper to record the codes but you can reperform it as many times as you need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felly Magic Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 This is why the north and south cannot be friends. Even Mr Regular from Regular Car Reviews says English fish & chips are a revelation with gravy, and he's a Septic Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegod Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 My life is a joke to you Kenneth? What kind of fucking animal would have fish and chips with no gravy? Not this one. Not this animal. Gravy.....on fish n chips.....that's like putting jam on a roast dinner you dirty, dirty boy I have a few purple relays you can have posted up if you pm me your address purplebargeken and Jim Bell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 have we tried the spare key just to disprove an immobi fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 Even Mr Regular from Regular Car Reviews says English fish & chips are a revelation with gravy, and he's a Septic Hes right. But we have known this all along. Gravy.....on fish n chips.....that's like putting jam on a roast dinner you dirty, dirty boy I have a few purple relays you can have posted up if you pm me your address Amazing! thanks man. PM coming. have we tried the spare key just to disprove an immobi fault?Unfortunately I do not have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Fish and chips with chinese chippy curry sauce, oh man, heaven. Well, prior to gut surgery it was. Now I can only look at pictures. Keep the faith with the Vauxhall good fella, dad car...... very special. DeeJay, Jim Bell, stonedagain and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Is your cheap code reader an ELM327 Bluetooth adapter? I.e. you use an app on your phone. It's unfortunately not uncommon for these ECUs to go fukt. The symptom however is usually a whole load of codes including cam sensor, etc. I also wonder if the fans not working is another sign something is not right. E.g. chaffed loom or the ECU loosing the ability to control stuff (e.g. switch injectors/fans/spark coils/etc on/off). I do have vague memories of fuse box or a multiway connector in the engine bay getting corroded on these... Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 If it's any use I have a vectra c in a 52 plate that's being broken. Z18xe. Still got ECU, ignition barrel etc. Actually my friend has bought it off my ex for his zafira which met it's maker but the car is still on my drive and we are as a joint effort selling everything. If you're need anything I'll ask him the price. I know zafira runs kwp2000 and vectra is part canbus on a pre facelift so maybe someone else will say if the ECU etc will marry to yours. Give us a shout if need any engine bits too. Car was working fine with no eml or running issues. Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Gravy? Oh dear sweet baby Jesus. You may as well have guacamole instead of mushy peas. Choc ice and chips FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 If it's any use I have a vectra c in a 52 plate that's being broken. Z18xe. Still got ECU, ignition barrel etc. Actually my friend has bought it off my ex for his zafira which met it's maker but the car is still on my drive and we are as a joint effort selling everything. If you're need anything I'll ask him the price. I know zafira runs kwp2000 and vectra is part canbus on a pre facelift so maybe someone else will say if the ECU etc will marry to yours. Give us a shout if need any engine bits too. Car was working fine with no eml or running issues. If anyone with better knowledge knows, feel free to speak up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 Is your cheap code reader an ELM327 Bluetooth adapter? I.e. you use an app on your phone. No its a bright orange thing with a wire on. Im going to have a look at the fuse/relay box tomorow and see whats actually obstructing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 I have that very same code reader, of little use on this engine I'm afraid, good for older Renaults though. Does the spanner light stay on when the ignition is at position 2? If so, there is a code stored, even if it goes out when the engine fires. I would really recommend the pedal test before doing anything else. It could save you a wild goose chase/fools errand. If it is the ECU, there are hunners of breakers more closely matched to your Zaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Pedal test works a treat. Best way to go forward without going down vox/op com. I know of someone who used a generic code reader on his zafira and it put out the eml but ran like shite. Oddly when eml came back it ran ok. I assume crank and cam sensors will be the same in my and yours so if needed shout up also. purplebargeken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 Bear with me as Im generally shit . Had a peep in the bay.... is the relay box meant to be on top of the abs pump? Its hard up against the bulkhead and seems like you can only undo the front two clips? Vant seem to get the back half out. Plugged my shitty diagnostic in just for a laugh. Linking error! Sweet. Also found a spare key in my dads stuff after all so gave that a try in case it was key failure. No joy. Off to do a brake test thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 Ok. Brake check thing doesnt work on this Zafira A it seems. Dont get the flashing EML or any codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felly Magic Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 This car is getting a right mardy diva. Funny how some cars run & run while being neglected, but other cars you service on the dot with decent parts etc, and they become troublesome. Hope you get it sorted Wilson squared Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Tried unplugging the ecu, leaving it for 30 minutes then plugging it back in? When I met Amy she had a corsa C *spit* that the central locking never worked from the key. Tried all sorts, but unplugging the main ecu fixed it... Could be worth a try in a 'what have you got to loose' kind of way? Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 Tried unplugging the ecu, leaving it for 30 minutes then plugging it back in? When I met Amy she had a corsa C *spit* that the central locking never worked from the key. Tried all sorts, but unplugging the main ecu fixed it... Could be worth a try in a 'what have you got to loose' kind of way?AA bloke said he tried it but its certainly worth a go again man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 what is lighting up warning light wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 Just everything with ignition then it all goes out as it should, other than like the handbrake light. When you crank it the abs flickers like an epileptic goldfish on a piss stained rug. DeeJay and purplebargeken 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I know the brake check test works on early zafs y plate and 03 and 54 from ones I've seen. You need ignition key out and a firm shove on the brake pedal and throttle pedal. Then turn ignition on so it lights. You should have a pic of an engine and a pic of a car and spanner. It's the engine light itself that will flash for the numbers,large pause is start of next number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 The quicksilvers haven't done any work on their Fazira A have they? Like how all the XAntia's were on here a few years ago, someone fixed something, someone else's broke? Maybe the same exists for Zafira A's and B's., and this is the first we are seeing on it as you and the Silvers are the only ones (that I know of) who own an A on the group, and I'm the only unlucky prick who has a B outside (although the V5 isnt in my name so I get away with it) so I have yet to experience the fun* I guess we are all lucky that Billy frags whatever he buys before he's put the phone down and doesn't try and fix them, all the vauxhall owners on here would be fucked then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Not trying to be insulting, but just double checking. Did you have the ignition on when you tried code scanning? That fusebox could be plausible location, due to being an MPV and everything squashed in. The Scenic II needed the windscreen wipers removing before you could get decent access to the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Google agrees. Whats the pedal test man? Get it fixed, put it into gear, release the clutch pedal, press the accelerator pedal and drive to my house. I'll lend you a bike to get to my local train station with. HarmonicCheeseburger, jumpingjehovahs and loserone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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