Split_Pin Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 It should work on this car, cannot understand why not. Im going out later to do the same on mine, Ill check the procedure. The fact that the spanner light goes ouy however suggests that no codes are stored. Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeR Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I think that bulkhead that the fuse box is up against can be removed , its to allow servicing access , about 8 screws and some other bits need undoing ...... and have a look at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ScanMyOpelLite.Main&hl=en it did work on mine , but the Blue Tooth was a PIA ! Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 It should work on this car, cannot understand why not. Im going out later to do the same on mine, Ill check the procedure. The fact that the spanner light goes ouy however suggests that no codes are stored.Odd how they work,them lights. Mates ran like crap with it out,ran ace with it on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 I know the brake check test works on early zafs y plate and 03 and 54 from ones I've seen. You need ignition key out and a firm shove on the brake pedal and throttle pedal. Then turn ignition on so it lights. You should have a pic of an engine and a pic of a car and spanner. It's the engine light itself that will flash for the numbers,large pause is start of next number. Yup. Thats what I did man. Three times. No joy. Are you sure youve seen it work on ones with only the tiny little lcd display in the speedo like mine and not the big back lit centre display? Not trying to be insulting, but just double checking. Did you have the ignition on when you tried code scanning?That fusebox could be plausible location, due to being an MPV and everything squashed in. The Scenic II needed the windscreen wipers removing before you could get decent access to the engine.Theres no stupid questions man, only stupid answers. Yes, I had the key in and the ign on when was trying to scan. Plugged the scanner in, put ign on, pressed scanner button. Was I doing it wrong man? I did say I was a bit shit. Question of the day: would the brake check trick work if the ecu had failed all together? Would the scanner fail to connect if the ecu had failed all together? Could these two results as shown above indicate an ecu failure? Any other way to check the ecu to see if its doing anything at all or confirm that its in bolloxes.. Cheers for all the help and tips so far lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 If the ecu is fucked I wouldn't have thought the brake thing would work... Is there voltage going to the ecu? (good luck finding the 12v wire though). Thinking back to all the scary Renner issues that have been on here that have been some stupid master fuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Question of the day: would the brake check trick work if the ecu had failed all together? Would the scanner fail to connect if the ecu had failed all together? Could these two results as shown above indicate an ecu failure? Any other way to check the ecu to see if its doing anything at all or confirm that its in bolloxes.. Cheers for all the help and tips so far lads.iwould thinknoyesvery possibleonly by sustitutioncan you get the ECU out easily to see if connectors look shitted up for instance Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Yes I'm certain. It's not anything on the little mileometer that lights up,it's the amber engine light at bottom of rev counter. Sorry if you knew that already. The models I know it works on have been a y plate 1.6 comfort,03 plate 1.6 club,54 plate 2.0 dti elegance,05 dti trim level unknown. Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 If the ecu is fucked I wouldn't have thought the brake thing would work... Is there voltage going to the ecu? (good luck finding the 12v wire though). Thinking back to all the scary Renner issues that have been on here that have been some stupid master fuse good point about a fuse- Montegos have F1(iirc) in the fuses which controls the ecu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 All the above have also only had the small display which only shows clock and radio. Non had trip computer larger display. And it was engine light that flashed in correspondence to the numbers. For example 10 flashes long pause,1 flash long pause,2x10 flashes with pause in between p0400 egr valve was last I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 One more time for the lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 If the ecu is fucked I wouldn't have thought the brake thing would work... Is there voltage going to the ecu? (good luck finding the 12v wire though). Thinking back to all the scary Renner issues that have been on here that have been some stupid master fuseAA dude said he checked power was getting to the ecu but no power after it an any of the points he checked. Fucked if I would know where to start checking his work but I dunno why he would bother lying about summat like that. Its quite nice sitting in this car in the quiet. I can even get wifi. Be nicer if it worked though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Its the spanner light that will flash. The engine light is only for emissions on these. Just did it on my Coupe there. Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 Its the spanner light that will flash. The engine light is only for emissions on these. Just did it on my Coupe there.Cheers for checking man. I think its safe to say that mine does not, and in as much as we are able to verify without substitution, the ECU is fucked like a lasagne dropped on a council house carpet. beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I presume you've tried either stern words or hammering a vauxhall corsa over it? Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Its the spanner light that will flash. The engine light is only for emissions on these. Just did it on my Coupe there.Sorry yes spanner light,2 emls per say on these. Engine is emissions side,spanner is everything else. Split_Pin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 i think the fact thet the spannercar light isnt lighting up is significant here Jim Bell and madrat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVee8 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk/index.php?threads/pedal-test-for-codes.245431/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 i think the fact thet the spannercar light isnt lighting up is significant hereThats what I was starting to think too. madrat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 maybe this is junkmans haunted car come back with an identity crisis?! Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Cheers for checking man. I think its safe to say that mine does not, and in as much as we are able to verify without substitution, the ECU is fucked like a lasagne dropped on a council house carpet.If its any consolation, the codes i found on mine point to the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk/index.php?threads/pedal-test-for-codes.245431/Ok, tried method 2 three times and that doesnt work either. Its worth mentioning that before all of this fuckery started, I DID used to get the little spanner of doom for a few seconds on start up. I presumed it was a SERVICE DUE light. I might speculate that its absence now, and the failure of anything to draw info from the ecu may inderd indicate that the ECU is cabbaged. Im gonna keep saying it till someone agrees with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 If its any consolation, the codes i found on mine point to the same thing.Thats no consolation at all man. What codes are you getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbenn Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I wonder if getting the ECU tested for hopefully not much monies would be useful, somewhere like this: http://camcoautomotive.co.uk/ecu.html They were recommended to me when we had electrickery problems on a car a few months back but I didn't use them in the end as the problem was an engine loom. Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 I wonder if getting the ECU tested for hopefully not much monies would be useful, somewhere like this: http://camcoautomotive.co.uk/ecu.html They were recommended to me when we had electrickery problems on a car a few months back but I didn't use them in the end as the problem was an engine loom.£12 sounds canny like. Unless thats what they charge you to tell you its fucked and that you need a new one. Worth giving them a ring though. Ill get on to them tomorrow man, ta for the link. Noel Tidybeard, mrbenn and purplebargeken 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Ok, tried method 2 three times and that doesnt work either. Its worth mentioning that before all of this fuckery started, I DID used to get the little spanner of doom for a few seconds on start up. I presumed it was a SERVICE DUE light. I might speculate that its absence now, and the failure of anything to draw info from the ecu may inderd indicate that the ECU is cabbaged. Im gonna keep saying it till someone agrees with me.Service due will show as 'insp' on the trip meter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Thats no consolation at all man. What codes are you getting?They all relate to either the throttle position sensor or the accelerator potentiometer. Some say that is masking a dying ECU, I think its just a bit if a brain fart though if Im honest. Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeR Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 If the code reader powered up. But failed to connect this suggests the switched power got to and out of the ecu . but the lights stayed off ? . is the ecu inthe nearside wing on this car ......... Jim Bell and beko1987 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 If the code reader powered up. But failed to connect this suggests the switched power got to and out of the ecu . but the lights stayed off ? . is the ecu inthe nearside wing on this car .........OBD port, per spec, has constant live. Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Only skimmed through this thread but, to recap: - spanner light on dash isn't lighting with ignition on? - RAC man says the sensors aren't getting 5v? - RAC man also says the ECU is getting power fed to it?- when it failed, it cut out dead? If all the above are true then it's either that the RAC man checked the wrong pin to check if switched live is getting power or ECU is goosed internally. The first I'll double check (if I remember!) if there is a constant and a switch live. The second could be a broken wire inside, duff main regulator or something else. Cobblers maybe you man in knowing what it is and potentially fixing it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Obd lighting up if I recall is usual as if I recall the obd has a power feed away from ECU but I'm now inclined to agree with others views above that no comments,no spanner light means ECU more than likely kippered Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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