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#91 OFFLINE   SiC

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:06 PM

I don't know if this is the same dash (probably is), but the Astra G that this is based on has a coolant gauge that is very wiggly. Ours used to start between 80 and 90C and then rise to sort of a bit over 90C or so. Then when the thermostat and fan kicked in, it would drop to under 90C. It would continously repeat this cycle when upto temp. Apparently something that all of them do.

When you say it overheats, does it go up and over the 100C marker?
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:08 PM

I don't know if this is the same dash (probably is), but the Astra G that this is based on has a coolant gauge that is very wiggly. Ours used to start between 80 and 90C and then rise to sort of a bit over 90C or so. Then when the thermostat and fan kicked in, it would drop to under 90C. It would continously repeat this cycle when upto temp. Apparently something that all of them do.

When you say it overheats, does it go up and over the 100C marker?


Yes man. Up over 100 and into the red.
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:15 PM

That's the rev counter........


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:15 PM

Ouch. What engine is in this? The Z18XE or X18XE? Should say at the start of the service book. One has an easy to replace thermostat (top of engine and 3 bolts), the other is behind the water pump so a cambelt job.

These engines are a piece of piss to work on and simple things as modern cars go. Most mechanics seem to love them because of it. Also pretty solid things that can take a whole heap of abuse. Cambelt jobs are like two hours or so max.

I assume there are no warning lights on the dash when it's running? I think this age shouldn't have the extra fan computer that often got soaked and went haywire. Only the earlier ones had that iirc.
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1974 MGB GT - A stereotypical classic car.
2007 Honda Civic EX CTDi - The reliable runner that is like the family pet.
2010 Aldi A4 - Owned to placate the wife on my crap buying


My history: 2003 Clio II 1.2 16v (First car), 2003 Honda Civic 3dr 1.7 CTDi (Isuzu lump), 1992 Mazda MX5 1.6, 2005 Mazda RX8 192bhp, 2005 Saab 9-3 1.9TiD 150bhp, 2007 Honda Civic 2.2 CTDi, 2004 Renault Scenic 1.6 Auto (Now Kiltox FiL), 2004 Saab 9-5 2.3t (Now Hooli), 2004 Smart Roadster 80bhp
Wife history (that she used/owned but I had frequent use of): 2002 Renault Clio II 1.2 16v (Billabong!), 2006 Mazda MX5 1.8, 2004 VW Golf 1.6 FSI, 2005 Renault Scenic II 2.0 (went bad from the drive back when buying it!), 2002 Vauxhall Astra 1.6 16v (now phil_lihp ex-colleague), 2005 Renault Laguna II v6 (Now angle)

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:27 PM

Cheers man. Ill have a looksy and see what engine code it is in the morning.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 12:14 AM

Cheers man. Ill have a looksy and see what engine code it is in the morning.

 

It will be on that 'car pass' piece of card you had the other day when looking for your radio code. 

 

I had a 52 plate mk4 Astra 1.6 16v and it was a Z16XE, so id guess the 1.8 by then was Z18XE too. 


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 01:12 AM

My Dad has had the same piece of carpet in the boot of his cars since 1987.  It's been through a Sierra, a Mondeo, an Accord, a CRV, a Mazda 6 and a Seat Leon - it's now in another Mazda 6!  He also uses it to stop his drum kit moving around when he's gigging.  I've got dibs on that when he declares, along with the private numberplate I got him last year.

 

Us drummers are very protective about our rugs and carpets.  I had the same one for years with the same duct tape markings on it so my kit was the same whenever I set it up.  Especially when you have to cram, myself (6'2"), my partner, mate, drum kit, guitar amp and guitar in my car.  Which was a 98 Ford Ka.

 

Sorry to hear about your loss, WW.  As a fellow car inheritee there are always odd things.  When I got my Gran's car a couple of years ago, I had to remove about 30 years worth of Ordnance Survey maps they'd collected and shoved into every corner of the car...


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 12:36 PM

Ouch. What engine is in this? The Z18XE or X18XE? Should say at the start of the service book. One has an easy to replace thermostat (top of engine and 3 bolts), the other is behind the water pump so a cambelt job.

These engines are a piece of piss to work on and simple things as modern cars go. Most mechanics seem to love them because of it. Also pretty solid things that can take a whole heap of abuse. Cambelt jobs are like two hours or so max.

I assume there are no warning lights on the dash when it's running? I think this age shouldn't have the extra fan computer that often got soaked and went haywire. Only the earlier ones had that iirc.

 

 

 

The lump is deffo the Z18XE. Is that the easy to replace thermostat or the cam belt off one? Just as Ive bought a thermostat housing/thermostat/temp sensor so might as well get a cam bet kit too if it has to come off to do the thermostat.

 

Theres no warning lights on the dash at all man.


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 01:17 PM

Crap video but gives you a good idea:


Just don't go gorilla on those torx bolts when doing it up. It's an alloy head and easy to strip the threads.

I reckon if you put a catch can underneath and be prepared to have coolant spill a bit, you don't need to drain the system. If you do drain, be especially careful on the radiator drain taps. They can be brittle at this age and often don't reseal after either. I would prefer to pull a pipe if going to drain tbh. But yeah, I'd just pull it off and just fill the system up again after. Won't loose all the coolant then.
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1974 MGB GT - A stereotypical classic car.
2007 Honda Civic EX CTDi - The reliable runner that is like the family pet.
2010 Aldi A4 - Owned to placate the wife on my crap buying


My history: 2003 Clio II 1.2 16v (First car), 2003 Honda Civic 3dr 1.7 CTDi (Isuzu lump), 1992 Mazda MX5 1.6, 2005 Mazda RX8 192bhp, 2005 Saab 9-3 1.9TiD 150bhp, 2007 Honda Civic 2.2 CTDi, 2004 Renault Scenic 1.6 Auto (Now Kiltox FiL), 2004 Saab 9-5 2.3t (Now Hooli), 2004 Smart Roadster 80bhp
Wife history (that she used/owned but I had frequent use of): 2002 Renault Clio II 1.2 16v (Billabong!), 2006 Mazda MX5 1.8, 2004 VW Golf 1.6 FSI, 2005 Renault Scenic II 2.0 (went bad from the drive back when buying it!), 2002 Vauxhall Astra 1.6 16v (now phil_lihp ex-colleague), 2005 Renault Laguna II v6 (Now angle)

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 01:58 PM

Only the old 8v lumps have the stat behind the WP. X18xe1 and z18xe is a complete piece of cake.

Just buy genuine though, cheap ones do not last. Should only lose about a litre of coolant, no need to drain.
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