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#44251 OFFLINE   dollywobbler

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 08:58 AM

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:10 AM

Apparently all 1600 cars in the car park are toast !! you can imagine the type of motors at a horse show !!

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:21 AM

The car park has a capacity of 1600 - not 1600 cars gone up

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:28 AM

It was pretty full though. I have two friends who had a friend or relative with a car there. They had to just go home by train.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:31 AM

Hope no shite or doges were lost :(

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:33 AM

Glad no one was hurt.......how does the Insurance claim for that work then??


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:36 AM

I imagine pretty simple. You just say your car was in the fire. They can always check when the wrecks are taken out and they note down all the VINs that have been toast.

I believe it was a 1600 car park with about 1400 cars in it. 1600 * £15000 (rough average) = £21m. Not too bad in the grand scheme of things. I wonder if they car that went up will be the liable one or if it would be the car that caught fire next to you would be?
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:37 AM

"If you note that in paragraph 95 on page 17 of your contract.........therefore you are not in this instance covered by this policy"
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:42 AM

I imagine pretty simple. You just say your car was in the fire. They can always check when the wrecks are taken out and they note down all the VINs that have been toast.

I believe it was a 1600 car park with about 1400 cars in it. 1600 * £15000 (rough average) = £21m. Not too bad in the grand scheme of things. I wonder if they car that went up will be the liable one or if it would be the car that caught fire next to you would be?

 

I meant in terms of who foots the bill - I take it the insurer of the car that started the whole thing is going to take a monster hit.....

 

Imagine sitting on confused.com and filling in the section on previous claims - "what was the total cost of this claim......£21,000,000"


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:45 AM

I meant in terms of who foots the bill - I take it the insurer of the car that started the whole thing is going to take a monster hit.....

Imagine sitting on confused.com and filling in the section on previous claims - "what was the total cost of this claim......£21,000,000"


Ultimately I'll imagine it will be one for the lawyers to decide given its not a small amount to be settled. If it's newish, the car manufacturers lawyers may be involved too.
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:48 AM

I'm sure I saw somewhere that it was a Land Rover that started it all...

 

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:55 AM

Wack, you weren't in Liverpool last night were you? :P
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:57 AM

again how is a fire of this magnitude able to take place , ok a fire should be able to take out some cars , not the whole lot !!

 

are we looking at design issues and potential for other car parks to go the same way  and the FB equipped to handle another one

 

 

what will be next years insurance premiums be for car park operators of the vertically stacking kind ?


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:59 AM

On a sad note there are apparently a few dogs left in cars, for fucks sake why would you !!!!!  :-(  :shock:

 

Poor dogs :(

 

This time of year with a window open & water dogs would be fine in cars so why wouldn't you? I had one dog that almost lived in my car & went to work everyday to sit in there as he was happy in the car & panicked when left in the house.


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:00 AM

I guess there is only so much they can do. The priority of any building design is safety of life first. As long as people can get out in time then it ultimately it doesn't matter. Cars are replaceable and expendable, people are not.

Given how infrequent it happens, nothing should really happen. Just if you see a fire in a carpark, really do just GTFO asap.
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:01 AM

Be another checkbox on your insurance from next year along the lines of "do you leave the car parked in a multistory carpark" lol....

Kinda scary given the amount of buildings with an underground multi story car park.....I imagine this fire was easier to fight because the car park could be accessed externally on all sides by fire appliances.....An underground job with one vehicle access and a few cramped pedestrian exits......

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:05 AM

I've been thinking that. Where I work and park my car is the garage under the building. Down in there is all the plant equipment, HVAC and everything else to run the building of over 2000 people. A fire down there would pretty much close down the whole place of 5 different companies.
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:06 AM

Kinda scary given the amount of buildings with an underground multi story car park.....I imagine this fire was easier to fight because the car park could be accessed externally on all sides by fire appliances.....An underground job with one vehicle access and a few cramped pedestrian exits......

 

 

 

 

If that had been the Liverpool One car park !!!   , that ticks all the above box's


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:06 AM

Every underground/under offices car park I've seen has sprinklers etc. I've never seen those in the big open multi stories.


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:13 AM

The other aspect is the damage to the building. Reports of the fire brigade being wary of the building collapsing. I'm unsure of how it all slots together but cars+ building damage stands to be quite a bit on top of the notional £21m
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:14 AM

I'm sure I saw somewhere that it was a Land Rover that started it all...
 
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:20 AM

Been reading thay after seeing it here earlier, sounds a pretty shit situation, even if they would all be moderns

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:32 AM

The other aspect is the damage to the building. Reports of the fire brigade being wary of the building collapsing. I'm unsure of how it all slots together but cars+ building damage stands to be quite a bit on top of the notional £21m

 

That amount of burning cars could melt the rebar within the concrete I'd have thought.


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 11:58 AM

Finished! For now. Garage tidy up means I can actually walk all the way around the Invacar!

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I still need more shelving, more hooks for tools and a proper sort out, but that can be a job for the spring, when I can get both of the cars out.


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:29 PM

My fear as a self employed garage owner is if that car had had work done on it recently and that was proven to be the cause of the fire .
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:29 PM

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:33 PM

That amount of burning cars could melt the rebar within the concrete I'd have thought.

concrete is a really good insulator against fire.

 

problems start when or if the concrete starts to spall away from the rebar, but even then the risk of a collapse is much less in a concrete framed building in a fire situation than it would be for a steel framed building.

 

thats why grenfell tower stood up after that fire, a steel framed tower would probably collapsed.


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:51 PM

Concrete's such a good insulator that it's used to insulate horizontal RSJs and the like in many modern buildings like factory units and warehouses.


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:53 PM

I guess the issue is that the firefighters going in have no idea how the building has been constructed.... Are there steel beams holding up concrete floors etc? They haven't got time to dig out the drawings or phone the architect so they presume it will collapse.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:56 PM

I guess the issue is that the firefighters going in have no idea how the building has been constructed.... Are there steel beams holding up concrete floors etc? They haven't got time to dig out the drawings or phone the architect so they presume it will collapse.


I guess that's why their saying every car is written off, even if many were fine, they'll probably just raze the thing to the ground and clean it up afterwards?
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