pompei Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1991-FIAT-PANDA-S ... 7C294%3A50 This very rare car used to belong to a mate of mine and was mint. I'm angry about this because:- 1) Either it will get scrapped, or 2) The seller is taking the p!ss when he probably has no intention of scrapping it, just like those "buy it or I'll banger it" types. GRRR again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashmicro Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 or (3) He's just a cnut.That's a little belter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Have emailed the sellerNice example, why scrap it? If you use it for scrappage you know that's what will happen. If you walk into any car dealer, and ask for a discount, these days you will get it. Get a grand off a new car (without scrappage), sell this one for a very reasonable grand, and the numbers are the same. Surely this makes more sense?Unless of course the scrappage angle was just a stress inducing marketing ploy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 That's an amazingly diplomatic, non-ranty email Fred. I approve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Ta, I didn't want it to be too emotional. If somebody is selling some tin, they have £££s in mind, I think that will speak to them. Just ranting on to somebody about it being a waste of a classic won't register with somebody mentioning the scrappage scheme, ploy or not.Anybody wants to copy and paste this and send it to other buyers, feel free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Panda does indeed look lovely, just not £1500 worth of lovely (or am I a tightwad with my idea of prices hopelessly out of date?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXrescuer Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 "it would be a dam shame though to scrap such a rare car, and one that appreciates every year, I paid near £2000 for it 3 years ago" So why are you selling it for less than you paid then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 T'was in my local Fiat dealer this morning, buying £1.84 of wiper components for SWMBO's Coupe; beside a nice,elderly couple trading in their immaculate 10,600 mile ('E'plate), 1 owner from new spotless Panda.Yes they had used the scrappage allowance- and yes wasnt it shiny-he's spent 2 hours polishing it yesterday.So -nice subsidy goes to Italy-usefull little car goes straight to the crusher.Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 "it would be a dam shame though to scrap such a rare car, and one that appreciates every year, I paid near £2000 for it 3 years ago" So why are you selling it for less than you paid then? Evidently hoping there will be a bidding frenzy Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michiel Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 and yes wasnt it shiny-he's spent 2 hours polishing it yesterday.Shame... Don't they know what scrappage means - or does he wash the rubbish too before putting it in the bin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 "it would be a dam shame though to scrap such a rare car, and one that appreciates every year, I paid near £2000 for it 3 years ago" So why are you selling it for less than you paid then? LOLZ, what a fucking spoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volksy Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 T'was in my local Fiat dealer this morning, buying £1.84 of wiper components for SWMBO's Coupe; beside a nice,elderly couple trading in their immaculate 10,600 mile ('E'plate), 1 owner from new spotless Panda.Yes they had used the scrappage allowance- and yes wasnt it shiny-he's spent 2 hours polishing it yesterday.So -nice subsidy goes to Italy-usefull little car goes straight to the crusher.Oh dear.Sadly thats exactly as I feared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouseflakes Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Shame... Don't they know what scrappage means - or does he wash the rubbish too before putting it in the bin?You made I larff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Old folk do though. Like hoovering up before the cleaner comes round.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 T'was a lovely little Panda-absolutely spotless. You could see it was well loved,only needed to look at the owners.So-thas how we buy our way out of this Recession/Depression.By getting little old ladies to spend their savings on (Italian)products they dont'need, whilst needlessly destroying good,useable commodities .Keeps the Eyeties nicely in work, eh.Please, please, bring on the revolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 No disrespect to the panda owners, but they are a gift to this scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicsmith Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 With the amount of this sort of bufoonery that`s likely to be taking place over the coming 10 months, perhaps this thread or one like it could become the "ebay scrappage ransom thread", a companion piece to the existing "ebay tat" and ebay GRAB URESELF A BARGIN thread.Depressingly, it would probably end up massive. It`d be compulsive though, proper uncomfortable but irresistible viewing and guranteed to make you a bit irritable for the rest of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRegieRitmo Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Think the seller sounds genuine hence why he is offering it for less than he could get with the scheme because he wants it to live & maybe is ignorant to the alternative that Fred suggested! Anyway, regardless it's gotta be worth it for this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mash Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 T'was a lovely little Panda-absolutely spotless. You could see it was well loved,only needed to look at the owners.So-thas how we buy our way out of this Recession/Depression.By getting little old ladies to spend their savings on (Italian)products they don't need, whilst needlessly destroying good,useable commodities.Keeps the Eyeties nicely in work, eh.Please, please, bring on the revolutionIt's just so damn annoying. On the one hand you want to say serves the silly sods right for being gullible enough to fall for the rose tinted veil masking the repayments but when a car like that needlessly goes west it's bordering on insane. It also begs the question have these people just got more money than they know what to do with? After all if you were getting on in years and owned a car for 20 years, hardly used it, kept it spotless and it was clearly perfectly fit for what you needed it for, wouldn't you just keep it and buy something that you really could do with instead of lining the car companies pockets?????? Aargh it's like bashing your head against a brick wall."Ooh me and Doris have got a lovely new car. We'll drive to Asda once a week in it at 20 mph. It was really worth losing all that money in depreciation for the thrill of it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Station Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Any car that comes accomanied with something like this: Obviously doesn't deserve to be scrapped. I bet he's just going to chuck that in the boots as a bit of extra weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Have emailed the sellerNice example, why scrap it? If you use it for scrappage you know that's what will happen. If you walk into any car dealer, and ask for a discount, these days you will get it. Get a grand off a new car (without scrappage), sell this one for a very reasonable grand, and the numbers are the same. Surely this makes more sense?Unless of course the scrappage angle was just a stress inducing marketing ploy?In future I am going to send this to anybody who says this in an ad.I got an answer, sit down it takes a while to read.maybe Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitevanman Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 and guaranteed to make you a bit irritable for the rest of the day.I don't need anything to do that, it starts when the alarm goes off and lasts until my next to last glass of whisky before I go to bed.Yup..............with you on that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Main Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Yes they had used the scrappage allowance- and yes wasnt it shiny-he's spent 2 hours polishing it yesterday.So -nice subsidy goes to Italy-usefull little car goes straight to the crusher.The utter, utter twunt. If I'd been there (and knowing it was already condemned to 'scrappage'), I'd have been tempted to run a key down the side, smash all the glass and then set fire to it right in front of the old fool. Two hours polishing it, oh please - give me strength. What does he think it will look like in a couple of weeks time, I wonder?Well done, Mandelson. Your Wastage Scheme is truly fantastic., I'm sure it will single-handedly raise this country into a state of never-ending full employment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Can we have a whinge bin for all this now (or a seperate thread as Vic Smith suggests) - A) Yes old cars will get scrapped. There's nothing we can do about it now bar buy each car for £2000, so lets just leave it eh?There was a story in the Sun about a Singer Gazelle that got saved - the dealer helped the person sell it to a collector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 ^^^^ hear hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 It also begs the question have these people just got more money than they know what to do with? After all if you were getting on in years and owned a car for 20 years, hardly used it, kept it spotless and it was clearly perfectly fit for what you needed it for, wouldn't you just keep it and buy something that you really could do with instead of lining the car companies pockets??????That's a bit rich really, you have no idea about their situation. I don't know what a 1987 Fiat Panda is like to drive but would say that a modern Panda, 500 or Punto is likely to be much better for an elderly couple, what with power steering, parking sensors etc- and don't go on about these being uneccessary frills, they could have arthitis or something and find power steering etc an absolute boon.Bottom Line - its their car and their money (bar the government grand) so they can do what they want. They are elderly - why the hell shouldn't they spend it on what they want before the inevitable? Its not as if they were planning to give it to you was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 There was a story in the Sun about a Singer Gazelle that got saved - the dealer helped the person sell it to a collector.I read that, It made me feel all warm inside, But no doubt the dealer done alright out of it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Well to be fair that's what cars dealers do, sell cars at a profit. That doesn't give them an excuse to just waste perfectly good vehicles. When it all boils down, that's what I object to about this scheme, the thinly disguised lies. This was never about the environment, it's only about the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 People are getting pro-active. I'll be saving full details for the paper, but I've heard of a chap saving a Citroen by going down to the dealership himself and haggling £1350 off the list price, and paying the chap who was going to scrap the car the final £700. Result all-round!!So, I guess we're all going to have to hang around car dealerships leaping on anyone with tasty ol' shite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Went into a Fiat dealers this morning and had a look at the Panda - only to see if I would fit nicely into a 4x4 one if I could find one, anyway sales bloke clocked my heap of shit and starts telling me about scrappage, I stop him saying I havent owned it for 12 moinths, he says "that doesnt matter".So There are deals to be done ( though not in this case as the Panda felt like a tin overcoat to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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