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#1561 OFFLINE   JeeExEll

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Posted 24 November 2018 - 05:05 PM

Aye, best sort out the carb situation first but those wheels look WOWWW :-)
Nothing wrong with existing rims for now.
As your existing 600 carb is still quite new it could raise some £££s sold to someone with a slightly larger Ford V8, maybe a 351. Or a 350 Chevy. I remember googling the carb when the car first arrived and they generally had very good reviews. Just a tad oversized and uneconomical for your needs.

That colour looks good on a Stang II, looks a lot like the uk Copper Brown. Shows the lines of the body and makes it look a little bit larger. Almost 'Torino-ey', but in a more manageable size. If that makes sense.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 09:35 PM

The carb situation is something I've been giving a lot of thought to recently. The Edelbrock 1404 seems to get good reports for being easy to adjust, and stay in tune. Not sure how your carb operates but this one has two primary barrels which operate during small throttle openings (flow up to 200cfm, for low speed driveability) but then two secondary barrels which progressively open when you put your foot down (up to 500cfm)

 

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Posted 24 November 2018 - 09:56 PM

The carb situation is something I've been giving a lot of thought to recently. The Edelbrock 1404 seems to get good reports for being easy to adjust, and stay in tune. Not sure how your carb operates but this one has two primary barrels which operate during small throttle openings (flow up to 200cfm, for low speed driveability) but then two secondary barrels which progressively open when you put your foot down (up to 500cfm)
 
I've got one on the way from Roadcraft, so will report back how it all goes!
https://roadcraftuk....&product_id=120


I’ve got a 1406 on the Mercury. Obviously it’d be too big for Jo’s ‘Stang but they’re decent carb’s for non oe’s. Dead easy to fit and tune too.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 10:58 PM

Not 100% sure what to do about the carb other than the Summit must go!

Nearest available in flow is the 390cfm Holley but Boy are they Pricey!

They do the very same model in two versions one is 390cfm the other 600cfm the 390 is £200 more!

It seems to be more because of smaller production runs as their bread and butter now is 600 upwards.

The Edelbrock though 500cfm I have heard good things about them :mrgreen:

Though the Summit's Secondaries are Vacuum it apears to give full flow whatever you do :shock:

And therin lies the issue it just supplying too much flow and cant use it so im getting coal out the rear and consumption of the Qe2 :shock:

Will be speaking to my Mechanic who does all the wrenching and seeing what he suggests?

Wheels?

On reflection and talking to the guy with the focus wheels its a bit of a nightmare,wheels plus spacers that then also have to be machined as well :roll:

I think ill just stick with the rostyles and hang out for the Ansens once the fueling is sorted ;-) I am just hoping I dont have to change the inlet as well as they were bought from summit at same time Im guessing a Holley would bolt right on not fimiliar what the base of the Edelbrock is like?

If the carb is being changed I want a Phenolic spacer this time as all I have is a wafer thin gasket and heat soak is boiling my fuel in the bowls too!

Shitey is coming off the road anyhow so I have time to sort it :mrgreen:


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Posted 24 November 2018 - 11:03 PM

Just read the details on the 1404 looks like it will just bolt on only thing is its manual choke :-(  Id rather stick with auto unless they do an auto version?


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Posted 24 November 2018 - 11:10 PM

Yeah, it's the 1403 :-)

Sounds like your existing carb may not be horrendously oversized, but if the secondaries are opening all the time that may explain the overfuelling!


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Posted 24 November 2018 - 11:18 PM

Yeah, it's the 1403 :-)

Sounds like your existing carb may not be horrendously oversized, but if the secondaries are opening all the time that may explain the overfuelling!

To be honest Mat I just dont have much faith in the summit now,dont get me wrong I dont think its a bad unit its just not the right one for this application :roll:

I want driverbility at the moment its all the power and torque is at the bottom end already and itll still climb.

Its like your having to reign it in coming out of a parking space :shock:


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Posted 25 November 2018 - 01:26 PM

Psh. Manual choke will be fine, probably just need to choke it to get it to catch then it should have enough snap crackle and pop to keep running in gear.

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Posted 25 November 2018 - 08:33 PM

Psh. Manual choke will be fine, probably just need to choke it to get it to catch then it should have enough snap crackle and pop to keep running in gear.

Phil

think id rather have auto as all the hook up is already there and it saves me drilling holes in by patchwork dash :lol:


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 01:38 PM

Ive had advice and I think I know the Solution.........................................

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 04:40 PM

I first saw a Mustang II when I was just 10.................. 36 years ago, thats how long ive had this dream I wanted to finish it and me and shitey would live happily ever after but I fear this dream is coming to a close :-(

First you feel you dream has been hijacked then you start to get things thrown back in your face :-(

Do I want him to go? Probably not but starting to feel like I have no choice :roll:

Just feeling very down right now and finding it hard to cope,its not the money im just not coping well.......................................


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Posted 03 December 2018 - 10:01 PM

I first saw a Mustang II when I was just 10.................. 36 years ago, thats how long ive had this dream I wanted to finish it and me and shitey would live happily ever after but I fear this dream is coming to a close :-(
First you feel you dream has been hijacked then you start to get things thrown back in your face :-(
Do I want him to go? Probably not but starting to feel like I have no choice :roll:
Just feeling very down right now and finding it hard to cope,its not the money im just not coping well.......................................


I know that feeling very well.

One of the best things to do now is put it away. Get a cover or something to keep it out of sight (out of mind!) and give it a rest for a while. It’s shit out now anyway so your not missing much.
Come back to it after New Years or something when you’ve had a break and got some enthusiasm back.

I felt the same when the Mercury needed an engine rebuild and the same again at least twice during the Capri resto. Don’t make any stupid rash decisions, and come back to it later. I’ve had a rest from the Crapi and now I’m feeling a bit more enthused with it so I’ll do some more on it once the weathers drier.
It does you well to give things a rest sometimes.
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:33 PM

I know that feeling very well.

One of the best things to do now is put it away. Get a cover or something to keep it out of sight (out of mind!) and give it a rest for a while. It’s shit out now anyway so your not missing much.
Come back to it after New Years or something when you’ve had a break and got some enthusiasm back.

I felt the same when the Mercury needed an engine rebuild and the same again at least twice during the Capri resto. Don’t make any stupid rash decisions, and come back to it later. I’ve had a rest from the Crapi and now I’m feeling a bit more enthused with it so I’ll do some more on it once the weathers drier.
It does you well to give things a rest sometimes.

Dont think Shitey is going anywhere?
Just had a Domestic with Sam lots of shouting and saying stuff I didnt mean and felt like selling :(

Will be continued :mrgreen:


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Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:07 PM

Meanwhile this was the last I did to shitey before he was covered up to hibernate :roll:

when I stripped out the interior I found a hard molded fibreboard firmly stuck behind the rear interior quarter panels at the time I went no further other than clean them

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A couple of weeks ago I saw a Mustang II group members car without them and mentioned them.

They were surprised my car still had them and advised I got rid of them explaining they go to mushy soak up moisture then hold it against the metalwork :shock:

So out they came!!!

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Behind them were two large access holes leading to the inner face of the rear fenders :-o

Might be usefull as I can now get to the backside of the rear fender damage :mrgreen:

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And the fibreboard? Well thats out it just fell out as it had become soggy and waterlogged as predicted and boy did it pong!

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Now Shitey is covered up and gone to beddy byes :tired:

The next coming weeks and months I will research,prepare and generally buy goodies ready for Shiteys 2019 comeback tour :mrgreen:

Yall Come Back Now ya Hear.........................................................


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Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:57 PM

Plans for next year????

I have now decided the Summit 600cfm carb is coming off to be replaced by an Edelbrock 1403 500cfm and possibly the intake coming off to be replaced by an Edelbrock 289 Performer and stock air cleaner rather than a Bling Cleaner :rolleyes:

Once its running right It's wheels time ;-)

I had planned on 15" Ansen Sprint Slots but

A: Much Expensiveness

B: Ive just discovered the black steel spare in the trunk may be 13" but I can get Fox Mustang steels of the same design but  in 14"  flavour :mrgreen:

I always think as the wheelbase on the Mustang II is really short 15" Wheels can look a bit toy car out of scale comedy :-(

I think 14" may bridge that gap and fill the arches better while tricking the eye into thinking they are stock ;-)

Ive also noticed a lot more choice for 14" Tyres and while the 14" Fox Rims are only 5J being steel can be banded for wider rubber :mrgreen:

Yes the Slots were nice but hey this is Autoshite and Shitey doesnt need all that bling shizzle............................


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:38 AM

interesting to see who has a hand in making these  :o

 

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:56 AM

Can't be too bad. The Magneti Marelli single point "carb" on my Fiat was an excellent contraption, well built from good materials. I was surprised. It lasted 140,000 miles and 11 years with no maintenance whatever in that time.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:32 AM

i did have a plan already but if I need a new carb sadly might have to go out the window?

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Ansen Sprints

Now being remade again 15x17j can get them in this country around end of Feb,was all set for a set but now looks like money has to be spent on fueling :-(

I mean just look at them......................

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:44 AM

Yes dont know who owns who I think they bought out Edelbrock? Funny thing is its like this everybody wants a Holley as a result everybody copies Holley's even my Summit is a Holley double Pumper knockoff :roll:

Then theres a saying "Holleys are great to work on" or "So easy to strip down and work on"

But the thing is when you mention Edelbrocks nobody says they are easy to strip down or work on.................................

They just say they are easy to fit and set up and that once fitted they never gave them any trouble ;-)

Factory Motorcraft 4 barrels have a very near resemblance to an Edelbrock :roll: so therefore looks more OEM  :mrgreen:

The good points of an Edelbrock is price

Bad points is everything is extra :-(

Ford Auto linkage kit,Fuel Rail kit etc etc yadda yadda but hey I just want it to run right and the Edelbrocks Secondaries can actually be adjusted to lower the CFM to bring in nearer to the magic figure :mrgreen:

My mind is made up,Ive been told I can probably bolt it to the Summit Branded Intake the car currently has but summit stuff is made to a price so I think I would much rather change to an Edelbrock intake too and give everything a better fighting chance.


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:49 AM

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Yes they do bear a stricking resemblance to the bigger torino ;-)


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Posted Yesterday, 01:54 PM

I am writing on here because it appears I am no longer allowed to post new threads anywhere on here?

I have enjoyed most of my time here up until recently........................

Everytime I post a new Thread a Moderator deletes it,it appears now I know the moderator doing it....................................

Not only am I having my threads deleted they wont even let me defend myself :-( because they have blocked me from replying to their Pm's

Im not allowed to post threads without them being deleted and I cant even defend myself in private. Not sure where that leaves this thread?

I am at the end of my tether guys and I know that there are those here I can truly call friends and who care :wub:

I just hope you enjoyed what I posted here and if I am about to be booted for no reason other than trying to post content thank you to all of you that were actually there for me

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Posted Yesterday, 02:45 PM

Is this any good to you ? I am not sure on make but probably Motorcraft. It was in the boot of the Thunderturd so I have no idea if it is any good but it fits a Ford 390. If it's any use to you I am driving into London on Sunday from Bristol.

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Edited after reading you last post, hopefully the forum police will calm down a bit as this has been a great thread. The moderation does seem to be getting a bit heavy handed of late and to be honest I wouldn't blame you for walking as it seems there is little interest in the older shite on here now.


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Posted Yesterday, 04:21 PM

Is this any good to you ? I am not sure on make but probably Motorcraft. It was in the boot of the Thunderturd so I have no idea if it is any good but it fits a Ford 390. If it's any use to you I am driving into London on Sunday from Bristol.

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Edited after reading you last post, hopefully the forum police will calm down a bit as this has been a great thread. The moderation does seem to be getting a bit heavy handed of late and to be honest I wouldn't blame you for walking as it seems there is little interest in the older shite on here now.

Thanks for the kind offer but without knowing exact CFM it may actually be more overkill than my present one,but I do appreciate you thinking of me  :mrgreen: 

Will probably go down the Edelbrock route as I know the CFM is less and can even be adjusted down further :mrgreen:

 


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