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The further adventures of a Shitestang........................


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#1441 OFFLINE   Joloke

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 06:28 PM

Time for another update :mrgreen:

So after several helpings of the Black Death Miximatoesisis Syndrome and giving up on getting the dash back in Shitey...........................................................................

Ta Da!!!!!

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And you will notice the new Wiper stalk that Mr Cort of 77 Vintage exported to Blighty :mrgreen:

At this point the dash is in and in the right place but the four retaining bolts are only half in as hey need to be cranked in a little at a time bit head gasket stylee as even after tweaking the bent dash bracket is still not 100% :-(

But it is starting to resemble a car once again :mrgreen:

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At present just the drivers seat is in until I clear all the junk out of the passengers side and then finish removing the sound deadening.

Drivers side has come out well though and is free from its original bitumen.

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I need the car on the road briefly to test everything out but once thats done and all the deadening is out the floorpan will be sanded and painted and new modern equivalent added.

Funny thing was the interior trim covers on the windscreen pillars didnt stop me getting the dash out but they stopped me getting it back in so out they came.

To reveal quality workmanship putting these fine automobiles together back in 75 :shock:

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I really wanted to repaint the whole dash but after several attempts I couldnt get a decent match on colour :-(

I will come back to this again next year so just blew in the repairs with something nearish in colour :roll:

This made me smile though remember this?

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Looks a little happier now :-P

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Hoping to get it back into a driving state this week with full array of instruments etc............................

Watch This Space!!!!!!!!!


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Posted 17 October 2018 - 09:25 PM

More or less cleared the passengers side of its sound deadening :mrgreen:

The Asda "Stunt Bag" on the drivers side is full of the stuff !!!!!!!

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Passengers side was worth getting up as theres some surface rust :-(

Glad I have caught it now!

Plus there are signs some doughnut jacked it up on the floor sometime in its past :mad:

So ill beat that down flat and treat the rust ;-)

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Ive found though that theres a residue you cannot scrape off but with a green sided dish sponge and some panel whipe and plenty of elbow grease you can scrub it off...........................

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I see a near future of getting very filthy and knackering tiresome tedium :shock:

But as they say Slowly Slowly Catchy Monkey...........................................

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Posted 17 October 2018 - 11:29 PM

That looks like it was applied with a flame thrower.

Someone has put what looks like bedding sponge under my carpet...

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Posted 18 October 2018 - 07:31 AM

That looks like it was applied with a flame thrower.

Someone has put what looks like bedding sponge under my carpet...

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It was probably the same loony who welded the A pillars :shock:

But hey its all fun :mrgreen:

Guessing yours was a later addition by a doting owner to give that luxury quiet feel :mrgreen:


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Posted 18 October 2018 - 12:25 PM

Yeah, it's part of the new carpet and interior re-trim the car has had. All very professional, just getting kinda tired now.

Shampoo machine beckons, definitely.


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Posted 19 October 2018 - 09:53 AM

HELP!!!

Have a bit of a dillema :-(

When I couldnt get the dash back in it turns out there was too much tension on a few ground wires screwed to the steering column Stupidly I unscrewed them without taking a photo :roll:

There was so much tension on them that the screw flew out like it was spring loaded :shock:

I remember there was two ring eyelets on top of each other just gone back under the dash and theres two eyelets near each other near the column theres no others one wire is black ive tested that with my multimeter (hence Crock Clip in photo) it does indeed go to ground but the other has two wires on it blue and green to one ring terminal.

With these not being black im wary and they dont appear to go to ground according to my meter unless they actually need to be grounded?

Behind the dash there were lots of wires not connected to anything (Ghia options im guessing?)

My Tame mechanic put the new indicator cam and wiper switch in I think he screwed these wires to the column as there appears to be no wires on that screw in old pics I have.

He cant remember doing it,Im guessing he thought he disconnected them?

But now I have a headache as what do I do?

Black is easy ill ground it but Blue/Green?

Its clear from the eyelet it screws to something?

Should I just screw it back to the column?

Two eyelets definately came off there and theres nothing else with an eyelet only those two,bigest mystery is why they are there? Not in old pictures I really do think he has seen them hanging thought he disconnected them and screwed them to the column?


What to do what to do?

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Posted 19 October 2018 - 10:11 AM

Fuck my boots that floor pan is clean innit? I shall post some pics of the Saab up before long, looks like someone was sick in there in 1974 and never cleaned up.
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Posted 19 October 2018 - 12:06 PM

Fuck my boots that floor pan is clean innit? I shall post some pics of the Saab up before long, looks like someone was sick in there in 1974 and never cleaned up.

Its not bad but still cleaning bitumen residue up off it :-(

Want to get it running agan today but not sure what to do about those wires?

Hang on apparently just been told even the Blue/Green is ground and should be bolted to dash frame so problem solved cant work out why they are not all black?


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Posted 19 October 2018 - 12:18 PM

Because America.

A number of battery positive wires in mine are originally black. Go figure.

The colors are there just to make the loom look pretty.

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Posted 19 October 2018 - 09:27 PM

So Yesterday I was a Scrubber!

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This vessel started filled with lovely clean Panel Wipe

And ended up looking like this,even my Marigolds fought hard until the end!

The Result.....................

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Still need to do the other side but you get the general idea ;-)

Sound deadening off on the Drivers side its just a case of scrubbing off the staining residue.

Once both sides are done I will go over it again now the heavy staining has gone.

So Today I thought should I do the other side or so something more productive?

So I decided to have a few days off scrubbing and generally start screwing stuff back together

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For some reason some items would not go back into the holes they once lived in :ssch00101:
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Fitted :lol:

I had proved the principle that cleaning up bulbs,sockets etc all the dash illumination would work but it was a bit temperamental so new sockets and bulbs were fitted and all is now well :mrgreen:

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Then after some Torch light fetting this happened........................................

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The little shite moved once more again :shock:

And the worlds worst after dark movie was taken to document the event!

Trust me its Shite! Just turn up the Volume instead!!!!

And we all lived happily ever after :mrgreen:



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Posted 19 October 2018 - 09:38 PM

That reminds me of Christine pulling into Darnell's at night!  Excellent!


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Posted 19 October 2018 - 09:41 PM

That reminds me of Christine pulling into Darnell's at night!  Excellent!

If only the little Shite would Restore itself while I was Asleep :mrgreen:


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Posted 19 October 2018 - 10:11 PM

Looking good! :-)

 

The thing that wouldn't go back in its hole... does it have a screw-on front bezel, so that you put the long cylinder in from behind (ooh-err Missus!) the dashboard and poke its threaded bit through the hole, then screw the front bezel onto that from your side of the dashboard?

 

Triumph Heralds have dashboard kit that mounts like that, such as the washer pump and ignition barrel...



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Posted 19 October 2018 - 10:18 PM

Looking good! :-)

 

The thing that wouldn't go back in its hole... does it have a screw-on front bezel, so that you put the long cylinder in from behind (ooh-err Missus!) the dashboard and poke its threaded bit through the hole, then screw the front bezel onto that from your side of the dashboard?

 

Triumph Heralds have dashboard kit that mounts like that, such as the washer pump and ignition barrel...

I have to admit ive been a bit naughty I never bagged stuff up :-(

Theres is supposed to be a nut that screws on the back but not sure where it went :roll:

As for does it go in from the front or the back?

Cant remember could of swore it went in from the front but it appears not to go in that way,neither does it from the back :shock:

But it definately came out of there :wacko:


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 03:38 PM

Shitey Is Dead :cry:

Well not entirely but he has suddently decided he is no longer likes any of others gears other that 1st or reverse :-(

Checked Vacuum pipes and nothing seems amiss but the Kickdown rod is a bit of a bodge so I am hoping its that?

It drives it up to late 20's then it revs its nuts off so we abandoned our scheduled run and headed home.

My Tame mechanic is going to look at it on Wednesday Night

Bad Shitey  :angry-smiley-007:

Really hoping is just Vacuum or Linkage related?

ATF Clean and smells right and was driving ok before

At least it still have forward and reverse drive...............................


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 05:29 PM

Oh bugger.  Hope it's a cheap fix!


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 07:39 PM

Oh bugger.  Hope it's a cheap fix!

Me too Eddy,hoping its just the kickdown linkage or suchlike? was ok up until todayso has managed to break itself while sitting doing nothing :signs053:


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 07:45 PM

Does it move if you select 2 on the gearshift?

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 07:59 PM

Does it move if you select 2 on the gearshift?

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Not tried that but I might tomorrow guessing if it dows it means theres nothing wrong with the gear itself?


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 08:14 PM

The first/reverse band is shared, 2 is controlled by another band and can be manually engaged by selecting 2 (snow start), which bypasses the automatic valve body.

If it engages then likely the problem is with the valve body, something's jammed up. If it gives you neutral next place is to pull the band adjusters off and see if 2nd band is slack.. if it is, pop the bottom pan off to inspect.

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 08:21 PM

The first/reverse band is shared, 2 is controlled by another band and can be manually engaged by selecting 2 (snow start), which bypasses the automatic valve body.

If it engages then likely the problem is with the valve body, something's jammed up. If it gives you neutral next place is to pull the band adjusters off and see if 2nd band is slack.. if it is, pop the bottom pan off to inspect.

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I was hoping it was just Vacuum or Kickdown Rod that sounds serious :cry:

Its late here and hes a noisey bugger ill try in the morning ;)


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 09:04 PM

Modulator would make it shift all screwy and kickdown will just make it hold gear, not disengage.

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Posted Yesterday, 10:37 AM

Right

we live in a Cu De Sac so its all quiet here this time of day (well it was until I started Shitey :lol:) so have a large turn around one end and several little branch roads so just incase I was stuck at 20mph decided to run it up and down the road here half a dozen times ;-) 

Verdict

Well it selects 2nd manually as does it select 1st manually.

It will even shift from 1-2 manually though its a bit harsh doing so (only did it once)

Its a bit sluggish away in 2nd Manual and once in 2 and after initial move off after about 10 mph it takes off like a stabbed rat :mrgreen:

Not 100% sure where this leaves me but we now have 1st and second and reverse as its only a 3 speed its only third I cannot get into now I would like to think 3rd is ok?

Hoping its something that can be sorted as it drove lovely before this I have checked up cost of a Rebuilt C4 and its £1400 :cry:

My Tame Mechanic looks at it Tomorrow..............................


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Posted Yesterday, 12:10 PM

Odd, May be dirty valve block coupled with vacuum modulator. If it shifts to second by itself but harsh that's a moderately good sign.


Could be something as simple as a split pipe or broken diaphragm.

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Posted Yesterday, 01:07 PM

Odd, May be dirty valve block coupled with vacuum modulator. If it shifts to second by itself but harsh that's a moderately good sign.


Could be something as simple as a split pipe or broken diaphragm.

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It works if you select 2 but wont shift past 1 when in D :-(

I had wondered about disconnecting the Kickdown asthats really for downshift and as it wont shift up it may do if its not connected? Ive heard some take them off completely :shock:


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Posted Yesterday, 01:18 PM

It works if you select 2 but wont shift past 1 when in D :-(
I had wondered about disconnecting the Kickdown asthats really for downshift and as it wont shift up it may do if its not connected? Ive heard some take them off completely :shock:


It won’t do any harm to try that. Tbh cars with big engines like this don’t really need kick down anyway as they’ve got the balls to accelerate without it quick enough. Mine was driving around for years without any kick down linkage and you didn’t really miss it!
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Posted Yesterday, 07:26 PM

Apparently if the modulator fails it'll suck ATF through the diaphragm. Pulling the pipe off it will show if it's leaking or not. If not, verify the tube connecting it to the manifold is not split/broken/perished.

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