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#931 OFFLINE   Joloke

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 06:31 PM

Looks like 16GA not 16A.


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Third one down.

https://www.autoelec...70/category/114

It was suggested because it would fit throught the wiper stalk switch,now i am doing things differently I think I would rather have standard wire!

 

Though its nice having a thin wall insulation in theory,in practice there is far less of it to melt through :(

 

Think I might be better off with this for safety sake?

https://www.autoelec.../66/category/11

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 11:32 PM

010103 should be fine for this, so long as it's protected by a 7.5A fuse (that one you can get).

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Posted 12 May 2018 - 08:53 AM

couple of things from me, pretty sure that wiper auto park is not part of the MOT nor is two speed. just that the wipers and washers clear the screen on demand.

 

Staaaag went through a decade of MOTs with no auto wiper park until I got my arse around to fixing it.

 

wipers on and they sweep, flick the wipers off when they are at the bottom of the screen :)

 

secondly I was fitting Fathathestags Land Rover up with a new loom but failed to note which wiper wires went where from the switch. the loom just provided the 12v to the switch. a seperate loom connected switch to 2 speed motor with auto park. Auto park confused me because it should be ignition controlled constant live feed to a microswitch inside the wiper gearbox which then sends power to the motor until the switch in the gearbox cuts the supply.

 

Long and short of it is that while I was trying to fathom out how autopark worked all the smoke leaked out of the motor and I burned out the switch.

 

Got there in the end, but it cost me a couple of 2 speed switches


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Posted 12 May 2018 - 09:21 AM

010103 should be fine for this, so long as it's protected by a 7.5A fuse (that one you can get).

Phil

Im guessing this is fine also?

Half an amp less but I can get it locally and already have most of a reel of the blue ;)

I made a test light out of the stuff a couple of years ago so just got the remainder out of the shed even though the new improved (so they say) thin stuff is supposed to handle 16 amps this stuff is much thicker and feel much more substantial ;)

Only available in 4 colours around these parts and one of the colours I wanted not available,but hey as long as I substitute green for white and I know that it doesnt matter

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The wire just seems more substantial both inside and had a thicker jacket too :)

I ran the motor on and off for about two hours last night apart from the sort of greasy motor smell it seemed fine :)

Slowed down over time but I think thats down to the jump pack needing feeding!

 


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Posted 12 May 2018 - 10:03 AM

couple of things from me, pretty sure that wiper auto park is not part of the MOT nor is two speed. just that the wipers and washers clear the screen on demand.

 

Staaaag went through a decade of MOTs with no auto wiper park until I got my arse around to fixing it.

 

wipers on and they sweep, flick the wipers off when they are at the bottom of the screen :)

 

secondly I was fitting Fathathestags Land Rover up with a new loom but failed to note which wiper wires went where from the switch. the loom just provided the 12v to the switch. a seperate loom connected switch to 2 speed motor with auto park. Auto park confused me because it should be ignition controlled constant live feed to a microswitch inside the wiper gearbox which then sends power to the motor until the switch in the gearbox cuts the supply.

 

Long and short of it is that while I was trying to fathom out how autopark worked all the smoke leaked out of the motor and I burned out the switch.

 

Got there in the end, but it cost me a couple of 2 speed switches

Thanks Richard :)

Think I am getting there now?

Will leave the park off for now ;)

I do think now it was just too much wire coiled up that caused my magic smoke to melt the jeckets to one another?

It may even be alright now if I keep them apart but I just dont trust this wire now so gouing to do it again wirg rge halfrauds 17 amp jobby stuff ;)

Took me a while to work out the park switch but sussed out it works like this

4 Wires Red,Black,Blue,White

Red = Battery to Switch

Red to White = Slow

Red to Blue   = Fast

Red at Motor is actually to energise the relay for park switch when power Is on the park relay lifts the park lever ;)

When you switch it off it drops it and locks the drive cog ;)

May not be rocker sceince to some but I am learning all the time

But as you say park isnt required for MOT so I will leave it off as im not sure right now about it?

Must go out today and get a suitable screenwash switch........................


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Posted 12 May 2018 - 11:04 AM

MoT doesn't even require two speeds.

Just that you operate a switch and the wipers adequately clear the screen, and that you operate the screen wash and you get enough on the screen to justifiably wash it with the wipers.

Like Richard, my Vauxhall went through all of its MoT tests without self parking wipers, just a toggle switch on the dash, with three positions, slow off fast. There was another button that was a sprung type, push and hold for screen wash.
Wipers were always halfway up the screen when I got it back because flicking the switch off at the correct time was an art, but it was never failed for it. They much preferred finding more difficult things like ball joints and rust...


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:22 PM

Havnt posted in a few days as been busy which has now turned into these updates!

Sunday we mainly decided it was time to have the trunk back ;-)

After cleaning out the slurry in the spare wheel well nothing had happened since it had become a dumping ground whilst the spare wheel lived on the rear folded down seat :-(

So we wire brushed,cleaned and degreased the trunk floor and removed the cracking dry Bitumen based sound deadening material

Until it looked like this..........................

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It then dried out in the sun before being overcoated with Vactan :mrgreen:

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And the rusty old spare rim got some Vactan lovin too......................

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Everything will eventually be DA sanded undercoated and top coated but for now this is treat and preventitive measures until its done properly.

By Monday Morning everything was dry and together with the once rusty spare wheel tie down shackle which had also been tickled with Vactan it was time to finish the trunk at least for now ;)

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:46 PM

Monday we refitted the Wiper Motor but it all went a bit Pete Tong :(

I First reassembled the motor with two ground straps for that belt and braces approach going from the gearbox bolts around to the mounting bolts.

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I Checked for good ground to the frame from the mounting bolts then at each step took nothing for granted checking continuity from my newly made up hook up lead to the motor all fine :mrgreen:

First disaster was one of the grounds fell off the gearbox bolt as I finished bolting it back in!

But the other was still fine so we went ahead.

My hook up was a little redneck but it worked for a while............................

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The Red Battery wire was removed from the switch in the photos to test for voltage After Mr Tong started to have fun :mad:

The Toggle Switch is washers,the Rotary is wipers.

Try as I might I never found anywhere to mount them the cigar light hole was too deep in the end :(

Anyway the washers still work,The wipers did until the Pivot clip fell off as I hadnt put it back on properly ooops!

As it came off and the motor went nuts I asked Sam to pull the Negative on the Battery.

The wiper switch was still on and the ignition too I forgot!

I turned off the ignition but forgot the switch was still on fast wipe!

You need the ignition on to get 12v at the wipers

I reconnected the battery,no keys in and the wipers came on,disconnected the battery and they wouldnt work again after reconnecting battery again :(

Im guessing its a fuse?

You cant get to the fuses,you cant get them out and if you do you cannot buy 6 amp fuses around these parts,you cant even buy 7 amp anymore!

Ive finally made up some sidelight bulb holders in a rather MacGyver way using the broken crap supplied bulb holders that had quite nice casings and using the innards out of some cheap crappy holders that actually had decent innards :mrgreen:

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So Tommorow they will be fitted and we shall have sidelights on Greenwich Meantime!

And the horn is now working too!

It was the centre wheel pad mounted switches.....................

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This is the Gubbins on the reverse side

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As you can see the plastic was cracked meaning that every time you push the pad instead of it closing the contacts it moved the whole swith housing away from the pad :(

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I could get the left hand switch pad working if you pressed hard but it was like a dying cat and very intermittent :(

A bit of epoxy later and now both horn pads work :mrgreen:

And finally whilst the epoxy was mixed up I fixed the split headlight retaining rim so the sparkly new RHD Headlight can be held nice and firm :)

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Hopefully it will be solid in the morning?

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:51 AM

You could purchase/make a bracket like this and mount it under the dash for those switches:

 

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Have you got a picture of the whole dash so we can scope out possible mounting points?  :-)


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:17 AM

You could purchase/make a bracket like this and mount it under the dash for those switches:

 

https://media.rainpos.com/1095/sp2000un_...

 

Have you got a picture of the whole dash so we can scope out possible mounting points?  :-)

Ive been scouring B&Q,Homebase,Wikes etc but everything is either too big or too small :(

But its the general idea I had ;)

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As soon as its been through a test I am tracking down the right wiper swich arm NOS just think its easier now ;)

So dont want to drill any holes will have a look when I venture out to rescue the dud fuse to see if theres any under rails?

I have plenty of cable ties :roll:


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:26 AM

Not a single switch blank! Must be the posh version.  8)  

 

Just wedge those switches in the gap between the binnacle and the crack in the dash pad!  :-D

Add a blob of blu tack for security! (Gee, that dash pad is in a bit of a state!)

 

/Recycled Joke

 

Looks like you need...

 

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:41 AM

To be honest ive had enough of the car right now :(

Just been out to recover the dud fuse its impossible you cant get to them unless you take the dash out!

Ready to pack it in :(


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:48 AM

Your kidding! The whole dash! Serious!

 

Have you tried the long tweezers/pliers technique?

 

Edit: you probably have glass fuses, bugger.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:32 AM

Your kidding! The whole dash! Serious!

 

Have you tried the long tweezers/pliers technique?

 

Edit: you probably have glass fuses, bugger.

Yes Glass fuses!

:(

If I ever get this through an MOT Bugger originality the fuse box is going in favour of a modern on that somewhere in reach!

Last hope is send the car off to the MOT guy and get him to complete

last jobs needed once I do the sidelights later

Brakes ( i was never doing them anyhow)
Wiper Fuse Hell!
Battery Tie Down

Thats it but I am just about ready to throw the towel in,havnt slept properly for weeks now up to early hours dragging stuff inside for refurb just about sick of it.

Its the pressure of this daft new MOT!

I agree with Junkman.............................

I welcome the MOT Exemption,I am not going to drive anything thats unsafe but I fear without it in the future non of our cars will pass because of daft red tape!


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:54 AM

Sounds like you're nearly there to me.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 12:10 PM

Sounds like you're nearly there to me.

Its the last few bits they are really doing my head in!

Ive repaired the wiper stalk arm three times every single time it fall apart!

Theres nothing inside it anymore but the arm is still needed for the indicators it had a secoring tab on it with a torx in it,ive clean it thoroughly used epoxy and three times its just sodding broke back off!

Insane design!

I tell you if i get through this sod originality im having the fuse box moved to somewhere you dont need to be an octopus to reach and going for blade fuses


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 01:23 PM

feel for you here Jo

 

keep it going and don't start regretting this whole project.

 

the end of the tunnel is in sight and I am pretty sure it is not an oncoming freight train


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 03:06 PM

If I remember tonight I'll check at Napa for 6A glass fuses for you.

They usually have assorted nonsense available.

Owners forum probably has advice on fuse removal methods?

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 04:45 PM

Well if nothing else we now have sidelights in the headlights :)


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 05:05 PM

Well if nothing else we now have sidelights in the headlights :)


Well done Jo, one positive to counter the negative.
I know exactly how you feel with this, I’ve been there too with at least two of my current cars! Don’t give up though.
Remember, this is your dream car and you’ve worked bloody hard for it up to now so don’t give up on it. If it gets too much, put it down for a day or two and come back later.
I was on the cusp of giving up on my Capri when it went tits up. Walking away from both the car and the financial investment in it. If I had of done I’d have been a complete and utter pillok and would have regretted it.

Don’t worry about the MOT. Nothing has to change really regardless of MOT exemption.
Just keep working out the fail points then put it in for an MOT regardless. If it fails fix the fails and then MOT it again. If it passes then fantastic!
After that first MOT and you get it registered you can do whatever you want from then on. Keep MOTing it every year or don’t, it’s your choice.
I may be wrong but I think you might be stressing yourself unnecessarily by trying too hard to beat the MOT thing and it’s not helping your efforts to fix the car.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 05:14 PM

Yeah what Dan said, just fix the thing. If it's a working car then it should pass the MOT.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:00 PM

Fwiw I’m going to MOT my Capri when it’s ready to hit the road again. The exemption will be well underway by then but it’s been stripped and rebuilt to such an extent that I’m definitely going to get my tester to do the business before I take it out on the road properly. Just to be sure! £50 for the test is nothing really.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:50 PM

Thanks guys

If the truth be known I guess its just all the worry about advisories becoming danger marks and stupid things like leaks :(

I guess its all down to interpretation?

Testers who are arses will have more ammunition,decent testers will probably just carry on regardless as they were before?

I am a Natural Born Worrier I admit it...............................

last job for tonight was fit a rear view mirror as though it had one when it left the States the US container packers put a silca gel pack to collect damp in the car and hung it from the rear view that in my case was glass mounted :cry:

When the car arrived the now full bag was sitting in the footwell with the mirror attatched to it rather than my screen :-(

I didnt want to make a mess at short notice buggering up resticking it so cleaned the glass and fitted a Rubber Sucker type for now :mrgreen:


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:08 PM

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:19 PM

I did think they were probably available just not over here :(

Doh!

Even if I get some getting them out isnt going to be easy :(

Ford really did have a sense of humour where they put the fusebox on this one!


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:29 PM

That spare wheel has chrome hubcap lugs on it.  You need a full set of those and dog dishes now ;)  You've made great progress on this heap, you'll be sorted in no time.  Don't panic about the MoT, worst they'll do is fail it and it's not going to be on anything dangerous given the stuff you've managed to fix.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:47 PM

That spare wheel has chrome hubcap lugs on it.  You need a full set of those and dog dishes now ;)  You've made great progress on this heap, you'll be sorted in no time.  Don't panic about the MoT, worst they'll do is fail it and it's not going to be on anything dangerous given the stuff you've managed to fix.

If you got a Base Model II on steels and ticked no wheel upgrade you got these babies :wub:

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A Ghia on Steels got these ;)

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Personally I prefer the Base Trims ;)

Even if you got Rostyles or Mags you still got the steel for your spare......................

I am calming down about the MOT now was just a bit worried about the new rules.

Whatever Will Be Will Be ???????????????????

 


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:38 PM

Which, as a '75 Ford from Somewhere Else will intrigue the testing party and they'll likely just test it the same as they ever have...

Like those trims though.

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vulgalour

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:27 AM

I love how the base trims on American Fords are often way better than the Ghia trims on UK Fords.


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