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#241 OFFLINE   plasticvandan

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Posted 11 December 2018 - 10:04 PM

With my minors i found that different makes it oil would be consumed at different rates in long runs. As you might expect,comma etc burnt the most,millers used very little.
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 11:04 PM

Yeah, don't get too carried away with the handling... it's only the front end that's excellent. The back end is bloody cart horse.

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Posted 11 December 2018 - 11:57 PM

Yeah, don't get too carried away with the handling... it's only the front end that's excellent. The back end is bloody cart horse.

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iv seen you post this a few times so i hope you dont mind if i ask what happened, did your wife have to swerve to avoid someone/something?

 

(what happened to the minor after recovery?) that front vs rear end description sounds a lot like how my friend describes the front and rear end setup on his MGB BTW  :mrgreen:


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#244 OFFLINE   DeeJay

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 12:05 AM

Re your seats. That Pirelli web perishes over time and loses its elasticity.

Those split seams look like it's just rotted thread.


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 12:20 AM

iv seen you post this a few times so i hope you dont mind if i ask what happened, did your wife have to swerve to avoid someone/something?

 

(what happened to the minor after recovery?) that front vs rear end description sounds a lot like how my friend describes the front and rear end setup on his MGB BTW  :mrgreen:

 

 

It's much like any other rwd, skinny tyred, high centre of gravity car of the era I'd imagine. GR9 for 15mph drifts on damp roundabouts, not so great if the arse steps out on a 50mph corner unexpectedly. See videos of racing Austin A35s doing flips for reference.


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 08:30 AM

Yeah, don't get too carried away with the handling... it's only the front end that's excellent. The back end is bloody cart horse.

 

 

Ouch, not good. I remember you telling me about this. Never seen the picture though. The ash frame looks to have held up well.

 

Re your seats. That Pirelli web perishes over time and loses its elasticity.

Those split seams look like it's just rotted thread.

 

Correct, the webbing had perished. There was a new roll came with the car, its improved things considerably but they're still not the best... I think Metro seats are a popular conversion with some owners.


Squeak, rattle and roll.

 

 

Thanks restorer.

 

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 08:45 AM

iv seen you post this a few times so i hope you dont mind if i ask what happened, did your wife have to swerve to avoid someone/something?

(what happened to the minor after recovery?) that front vs rear end description sounds a lot like how my friend describes the front and rear end setup on his MGB BTW :mrgreen:


In short, lift off oversteer was the issue. Car was loaded for camping, and turned in with the same alacrity that Mrs DW was used to in the Mini. She caught the initial slide, but wasn't quick enough to stop it swinging the other way. Landed in a ditch the same width as the car. Thankfully, the ditch wasn't full of water...
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Posted 12 December 2018 - 09:09 AM

As it looks like im due a little inheritance very shortly,It looks like i will finally be able to get myself a Minor again,think subconciously ive stopped myself getting some generic eurobox in anticipation of this,somewhat staggered at some of the prices being asked,but read between the lines and the stupid prices are generally dealers who readvertise over and over. a Traveller would be nice,but i think possibly better value could be got with a 2 door. I shall be following this thread with much greater interest now :-) Ive had three minors,2 doors and a 4 door.As my dad used to joke,being a Minor fan as well,Issigonis got it right the first time :-)


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 09:31 AM

In short, lift off oversteer was the issue. Car was loaded for camping, and turned in with the same alacrity that Mrs DW was used to in the Mini. She caught the initial slide, but wasn't quick enough to stop it swinging the other way. Landed in a ditch the same width as the car. Thankfully, the ditch wasn't full of water...

 

that sounds pretty scary, glad she escaped relatively unharmed :)

 

as mentioned above the Minor looks to have held up surprisingly well, I would've expected the back section to collapse if the car flipped and landed on its roof like that. im guessing since it landed in a ditch the same width as itself it would have "just" wedged it self in without the roof hitting the dirt very hard, with the sides taking the most of the force? (like bunging a cork into bottle)



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Posted 12 December 2018 - 09:58 AM

Nice bit of work on the seats. I really must have a look at the drivers seat in my 59 Standard. The back has been getting worse for a decade or more, it ok with a cushion but I must sort it properly. Every summer I tell myself that come winter I will take it apart. I just fear doing upholstery. Hopefully it is the same construction as yours.
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Posted 12 December 2018 - 10:17 AM

Old car seats are a piece of piss.

The only tricky part is getting the fabric back on if the metal clips are rusty and weak.

Foam is cheap from upholstery suppliers. 

Would recommend getting the seams resewn.

I can help if anyone needs any near Liverpool.


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 03:10 PM

Aye the seats are very simply constructed, DeeJay has it. I was able to do it and I'm no trimmer. I did it just to re-gain the support of the seat, the cover is knackered, I'm holding out for a good second-hand one.

 

I'm currently suffering a bout of Morris mania, keep looking at cars for sale &c... fortunately my mate said it's only a minor illness.


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Squeak, rattle and roll.

 

 

Thanks restorer.

 

Save the Pangolins.

 

Current shite:

1952 Morris Oxford Series MO - Sidevalve Shite

1959 Humber Super Snipe - Gas guzzler

1962 Morris 1000 Traveller - English Tudorbethan

1975 Austin Allegro 1100 DL - m'Lod

 

Please look out for hedgehogs!


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 03:57 PM

Minor illness indeed but often requiring major surgery to the car in question!

 

I can't really see myself being without my Minor even though it has become a much less constant companion since I stopped using it for work.   However, a side effect of that change is that all the things that used to annoy me about it - constant water ingress, rattles, squeaks and shitty ride over rough surfaces do not bother me on a daily basis and it was actually the journey to work that brought out all these disadvantages.  Now,  I get it out on a nice day and go somewhere for the hell of it - Salisbury, the beaches, across the New Forest or down to Dorset (where it first lived) and enjoy every minute of it.   

 

I won't be able to run 5 cars when I retire shortly so it will take over a lot more of the daily duties again but right now it is having a well-deserved rest and hopefully some fettling when it warms up a bit after the New Year. 

 

Before I owned one I wondered what all the fuss was about, in fact I was a bit snidey about them but its one of those little machines that is so much greater than the sum of its parts....


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 03:57 PM

Don't those gearboxes just take regular engine oil?
Possibly it's had 90 weight thrown in to quieten it down at some point.
Noisy layshaft perhaps.

Phil

My early 80's Toyota Landcruiser has bronze parts in the g/b. The gearbox oil EP additive chemicals apparently strip the meshing gears in microns over time so I put in non EP gearbox oil from Morris Oils - it's a specialist one for vehicles of this type. There are tales of Landcruiser g/b failure of the HJ60's at low miles. So a non -EP oil might stop yours getting any worse. Mine seems a bit improved and certainly no worse off. Morris oils are delightfully old school. You can order direct over that newfangled 'tinternet.


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 05:15 PM

Been right through this thread today. Some great work done, the wood looks amazing!

 

Plus, it spurred me into taking mine for a run.

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 05:26 PM

Hey that looks nice....Non-matt black wipers seal of approval, too.


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 05:33 PM

The issues with some EP oils attacking yellow metals is a pretty well known issue in the Lada circles too - and they specify EP oil for the 'box. The important bit is the standard to which it conforms - GL4. *NOT* GL5, which all the documentation suggests supercedes GL4...it does in every way except for suitability in gearboxes where there are any bits of yellow metals. Some are labelled as GL4/5 as well, which also need to be avoided and oils marked as GL4 only need to be used to be safe.
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Posted 14 December 2018 - 04:46 PM

mebenn thankyou, I had no idea you also had one, it looks a lovely car.

 

lesapandre & Zelandeth I agree entirely, the EP oil really does cause damage if the gearbox is meant for straight mineral oil, there were lots of bronze particles in the drain plug so I filled it with paraffin before re-filling with 20w50. It hasn't changed its operation, it's a good gearbox but has the usual noisy First and Reverse. I too have been using Morris Lubricants for years now, they have a good range and are well priced. Their classic 20w50 is ideal for my cars.

 

Trevor mate I was like you as I spurned them for years, especially after my 803cc I hated them for a while, but always knew deep down I'd have another... I'm just glad I have access to other cars to preserve the good feelings driving it.


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Squeak, rattle and roll.

 

 

Thanks restorer.

 

Save the Pangolins.

 

Current shite:

1952 Morris Oxford Series MO - Sidevalve Shite

1959 Humber Super Snipe - Gas guzzler

1962 Morris 1000 Traveller - English Tudorbethan

1975 Austin Allegro 1100 DL - m'Lod

 

Please look out for hedgehogs!


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