John F Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Expected to see MILFs. Found none. Voted down. mercrocker, Junkman and Squire_Dawson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I didn't complete the survey because it's just too fucking stupid.I mean, honestly, what a concentrated pile of meaningless horseshit. I suggest a new survey: Why do you think the intellectual level at Universities deteriorated so unbelievably in the past 30 years?Or: Why do you think every student nowadays needs a proper kick in the balls? Problem is those soy boys wouldn't even notice it. Belfast Gipsy, John F, Squire_Dawson and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor924 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 Thanks for your comments and sorry you didn't like the survey. There is a robust background to the questions but if its not your cup of tea, that's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor924 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 Having assisted with designing online questionnaires previously for a psychology thesis (attitudes toward organ donation in different hypothetical scenarios), I can confirm it's a nightmare trying to strike a balance between responses that can be meaningfully analysed by the software to show clear patterns, and not making it sound really odd and convoluted to the respondent. That said, I would have deep concerns that putatively offering a total base-spec Fiesta to the bASe lickers on here may potentially skew the results somewhat... Mrs DC's first Yaris started life as a competition prize, and was some commercial spec well below showroom level - vinyl a-go-go inside and not even proper carpet... that caused a few expressions of wantage on these hallowed pages. Yes it is. The framework here is based upon an established structure adapted and tinkered with for these purposes. It won't be everyone's cup of tea and the selection of a Fiesta is a compromise compared to what else we considered... Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor924 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 Done it, have I actually won a Ford Fiesta or just entered into a draw for it? If I had it, I would offer/roffle it here. barefoot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inconsistant Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 intellectual level at Univerities Lol Junkman, chodweaver and tooSavvy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor924 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 Comments are erm interesting!But the premise of the work is to try to gather information on what moves a 'car' from being 'just' a means of getting from A to B into something that a buyer might invest some time in looking for (for varying reasons) if a bit of cash was on offer or alterative temptations. When does that happen and why? There is lots known about what motivates buyers across a range of products but not much known (tested, explored) about why we may delay our buying decisions, especially for goods that can depreciate then appreciate after a period of time. Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcars Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 All filled in. So when do I win this £7000 classic car then? Yes, a lovely Marina van. But its not ready for 4 weeks, how much compo do you want? Junkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcars Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I completed the survey. I worked in a bank for 3 months, i have done a lot lot worse. chodweaver and Junkman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 why we may delay our buying decisions How about because we don't have the necessary dosh?Give me some wad and watch me plonk it down for some grade A shite without any further ado, guaranteed. chodweaver, UltraWomble, mercrocker and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squire_Dawson Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Comments are erm interesting!But the premise of the work is to try to gather information on what moves a 'car' from being 'just' a means of getting from A to B into something that a buyer might invest some time in looking for (for varying reasons) if a bit of cash was on offer or alterative temptations. When does that happen and why? I suppose the simple answer is enthusiasm. Most people here are 'enthusiastic' about transport, i.e. taking a keen interest in cars and specifically certain types. There is lots known about what motivates buyers across a range of products but not much known (tested, explored) about why we may delay our buying decisions, especially for goods that can depreciate then appreciate after a period of time. You might not buy something for any number of reasons, the list is endless. Things only start to appreciate once the consumer capitalist 'society' we live in uses something up, destroys most examples, outlaws or otherwise erodes their numbers until one day, years after these things have been commonplace, the Great British Public point and stare at the remaining examples and gawp 'my granddad had one of those' when they don't even know what it is. Or, the clever folks at AS see the (non-financial) value of things and hoarde them. mercrocker, Junkman, AlabamaShrimp and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 A lot of the things I hoard used to have great financial value when I bought them... Mally, beko1987, mercrocker and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 doctor924, on 12 Dec 2017 - 1:24 PM, said:There is lots known about what motivates buyers across a range of products but not much known (tested, explored) about why we may delay our buying decisions, especially for goods that can depreciate then appreciate after a period of time. I doubt autoshite will be able to shed light on how - or, indeed, whether - the unwashed masses think when making purchasing decisions. We like old beige stuff that's almost free, not shiny new stuff on an expensive lease. And I suspect we don't like being viewed as "buyers", something to be farmed for our disposable income by faceless corporations generating purchasing profiles, either. drum, Junkman, beko1987 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I doubt autoshite will be able to shed light on how - or, indeed, whether - the unwashed masses think when making purchasing decisions. We like old beige stuff that's almost free, not shiny new stuff on an expensive lease. And I suspect we don't like being viewed as "buyers", something to be farmed for our disposable income by faceless corporations generating purchasing profiles, either. It's an interesting question, nonetheless - I'm not sure whether this piece of research is motivated by marketing for 'hard to reach' consumers, or whether it's trying to prove that for a tiny subset of people, financial considerations are secondary to sheer bloody-mindedness. If survey responses show consistency in attaching a lesser value to a freebie modern (the Fiesta) against the hypothetical £7k classic desired for reasons other than practicality, then it may go some way to demonstrating that some people are basically immune to the shiny glitz of consumerist dreams, instead ploughing their own individualistic furrow of brushed-nylon upholstery and dicking around with feeler gauges out in the cold. But it's hard to tell without reading the abstract for the research piece, or knowing how the data generated will be analysed (SPSS was quite common 15 years back, and wording the questions to generate meaningful outputs was a definite challenge). We're a diverse lot on here, with some very much motivated by Bangernomics and wringing every last drop of worth from an old nail, others by a love of spannering and ingenuity, while others come across more as classic connoisseurs with an eye for luxury and/or performance while others still seem driven by a perverse love of the kicked and scabacious automotive underdogs of yesteryear - so a genuine Autoshite user survey (which this survey is explicitly not) could make for quite interesting reading... Magnificent Rustbucket, Junkman, chodweaver and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 It's an interesting question, nonetheless - I'm not sure whether this piece of research is motivated by marketing for 'hard to reach' consumers, or whether it's trying to prove that for a tiny subset of people, financial considerations are secondary to sheer bloody-mindedness. If survey responses show consistency in attaching a lesser value to a freebie modern (the Fiesta) against the hypothetical £7k classic desired for reasons other than practicality, then it may go some way to demonstrating that some people are basically immune to the shiny glitz of consumerist dreams, instead ploughing their own individualistic furrow of brushed-nylon upholstery and dicking around with feeler gauges out in the cold. But it's hard to tell without reading the abstract for the research piece, or knowing how the data generated will be analysed (SPSS was quite common 15 years back, and wording the questions to generate meaningful outputs was a definite challenge). We're a diverse lot on here, with some very much motivated by Bangernomics and wringing every last drop of worth from an old nail, others by a love of spannering and ingenuity, while others come across more as classic connoisseurs with an eye for luxury and/or performance while others still seem driven by a perverse love of the kicked and scabacious automotive underdogs of yesteryear - so a genuine Autoshite user survey (which this survey is explicitly not) could make for quite interesting reading...You sound like you knwo what your talking about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Oh, it was meant to be a new Fiesta?I was wondering where one could find an old base spec Fiesta for only 7k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraWomble Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 So when is this Fiesta arriving then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobthebeard Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 So when is this Fiesta arriving then?Hopefully soon. I have apparently* sold it for £5000 . beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Hopefully soon. I have apparently* sold it for £5000 .With your £4000 compensation for it not arrriving yesterday your quids in! Heidel_Kakao and Bobthebeard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobthebeard Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 With your £4000 compensation for it not arrriving yesterday your quids in!Yay! Compo innit! beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 You sound like you knwo what your talking about! I can assure you, any veneer of competence is purely an illusion! I made the mistake of offering to help my then-girlfriend with the Research Methods module of her Psychology degree, and it was a right old palaver... but made me realise how tricky it is to run a statistical analysis of values-based responses - turning opinions and feelings into numbers, then analysing those numbers using specialist software against stated variables to try to generate correlations, and then examining whether these correlations (or causations) support or confound the hypothesis under investigation... it's a right bloody nightmare, and I don't envy doctor924 one little bit! beko1987 and RayMK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraWomble Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I asked for a quid compoI didnt think I could declare nowt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I think there’s a lot more to be found for the survey bloke by reading the contents of this thread than the survey! chaseracer, Junkman, chodweaver and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Yeah, that not every action in life is motivated by fucking money, for God's sake. RayMK, beko1987, catsinthewelder and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Completed. Might have been easier if the questions had specified a type of classic car, for example repairs to a £7000 MGB are "enhancements" whereas repairs to a £7000 Maserati Biturbo would merely be a precursor to a further series of repairs. After which the car wouldn't be sold but instead thrown into a canal or offered on here as a Roffle. It could do with a section to mark out which responses were definitely from Autoshite. Namely "Would you buy a Renault Laguna Diesel Automatic for £95 off a bloke in a pub car park?" Which would cue several answers of "10-yes absolutely" Junkman, Talbot, catsinthewelder and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggersdog Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 completed the survey however, i didn't leave details where to deliver the 70 newly won renault laguna diesel automatics. beko1987 and Junkman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 That was a little strange. I've completed Uni surveys in the past and it's on a par with those tbh. The questions asked will line up with the rest of the thing they're writing, no doubt, but make virtually no sense to anyone taking the survey. That just seems to be a University thing. The questions actually seemed to be:How much do you value a brand new base model car you've been given?How much do you value a classic/collectible car you've been given?How much would you sell either for if you had to?How tolerant would you be of repairs to your brand new free car?How tolerant would you be of repairs to your desirable classic/collectible free car?How much compensation do you want when people don't keep up their end of the bargain? It's much more to do with money and the value of goods than it is to do with old cars. It felt more aimed at the classic car speculator that might find a base model city car an insult rather than a benefit. It felt very much as though it was written by an outsider to the old car hobby/lifestyle than someone who actually understood their audience and that is were it fell down hardest. Again, this isn't unusual for University type surveys, they very often feel like they're missing the point and are rather designed to tick a box than actually ask or answer any meaningful questions. Junkman, beko1987, chodweaver and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 That's how they then do everything after they are hired from those Universities into management positions.No wonder everything is turning to shit. forddeliveryboy, pshome and DodgyBastard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Thinking back, did you as a child ever want to own a Talbot Horizon? Not a chance-----------------------------------------Er, maybe----------------------------------------------Damn right! Junkman, Parky, chodweaver and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castros_bro Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 There certainly seem to be a lot of experts* speaking out of their arses on here. But what would I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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