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The end of the Holesley! (Long live the Wobseley)


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#91 OFFLINE   D Spares & Tyres

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 10:15 PM

Holesley update:

Finished welding up the wing. It needed several platesIMG_20180613_131118.jpg IMG_20180613_143149.jpg

Somebody has been here before...IMG_20180613_143212.jpg (found loads of old repairs on it.

Fitted the wing and wobbed it
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Germanic style panel gapsIMG_20180615_140302.jpg

And a more British one...IMG_20180614_130917.jpg

That'll do for now. Next job, paint front panel. I'm looking forward to that part
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Posted 15 June 2018 - 11:14 PM

Oh, it's coming along! 


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:34 AM

This week's update...

Took the wing back off to finish the welding. ( I only put it back on and primed the corner because I was bored of welding and wanted to see some fresh paint )

I made a bump stop mountIMG_20180620_151127.jpg but I think I have cocked up and made it too far down. The old one was too rotten to measure properly but also with the box section i put in the wing, that isn't quite to factory dimensions either!

So I painted the front panel. Loosely placed some chrome in the holes to give it a face again!IMG_20180620_164458.jpg

So, it's just paintwork left to do on the panels now. NO MORE WELDING!! (Bound to be a small bit somewhere that I've missed, I'm not that naive)

Is it just me or does it look prettier without a bumper? With one it looks a bit catfishy I reckon
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Posted 21 June 2018 - 10:24 AM

Welding up a ratty old Talbot Express


I think you got away very lightly with the amount of rot there. If you want to make a bit more cash from your neighbour, have a poke at the sills and the floor between the sills and the "chassis" rails. Also check the rear damper top mount stiffener brackets. I'm not sure what the arrangement is on the coachbuilt camper vans, but if it's anything like the panel van arrangement, it will be more rot than metal.


Good work on the wobsley. The finished article is beginning to look brilliant. No-one except the concours brigade care about exact originality when it's a choice between fabricating for the next thousand years, or just driving and enjoying the vehicle.
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Posted 21 June 2018 - 10:36 AM

This week's update...

Took the wing back off to finish the welding. ( I only put it back on and primed the corner because I was bored of welding and wanted to see some fresh paint )

I made a bump stop mountattachicon.gifIMG_20180620_151127.jpg but I think I have cocked up and made it too far down. The old one was too rotten to measure properly but also with the box section i put in the wing, that isn't quite to factory dimensions either!

So I painted the front panel. Loosely placed some chrome in the holes to give it a face again!attachicon.gifIMG_20180620_164458.jpg

So, it's just paintwork left to do on the panels now. NO MORE WELDING!! (Bound to be a small bit somewhere that I've missed, I'm not that naive)

Is it just me or does it look prettier without a bumper? With one it looks a bit catfishy I reckon

 

 

I hope you've keep the original water in that headlight!


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 02:10 PM

I think you got away very lightly with the amount of rot there. If you want to make a bit more cash from your neighbour, have a poke at the sills and the floor between the sills and the "chassis" rails. Also check the rear damper top mount stiffener brackets. I'm not sure what the arrangement is on the coachbuilt camper vans, but if it's anything like the panel van arrangement, it will be more rot than metal.

I've not been under the back of the Talbot but I'm guessing this one is built on a chassis cab rather than a panel van. The cab is remarkably solid from what I have seenIMG_20180621_150452.jpg
Just waiting for a new windscreen to arrive then it can go. I've no wish so do more welding at the moment! ( so I've bought a Rover with holes in )
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Posted 21 June 2018 - 02:42 PM

this one is built on a chassis cab one rather than a panel van. The cab is remarkably solid from what I have seen


It does look remarkably tidy. Most of the Mk1 cabs are really rotten by now. Has this one got the astonishingly-vague gearchange associated with RHD vehicles too? If so, there's a single phozzy-bronze bush in the top of the box that can be changed to completely* restore the linkage back to new.
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Posted 21 June 2018 - 02:53 PM

Is it just me or does it look prettier without a bumper? 

 

I really agree, looks a lot less dowdy.


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 04:20 PM

This is first-class workmanship, very pleased to see it taking shape. These cars are little gems, must have one someday.


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 05:57 PM

This is second rate workmanship, but looks ok on a small picture. very pleased to see it taking some kind of shape. These cars are little gems,one day I'll turn up at your place with some cash and buy this one


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 05:59 PM

It does look remarkably tidy. Most of the Mk1 cabs are really rotten by now. Has this one got the astonishingly-vague gearchange associated with RHD vehicles too? If so, there's a single phozzy-bronze bush in the top of the box that can be changed to completely* restore the linkage back to new.


Seems ok for one of these. It's only done 48,000 miles. Pushrod petrol engined so should last indefinately!

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 09:19 PM

Seems ok for one of these. It's only done 48,000 miles. Pushrod petrol engined so should last indefinately!

Talbot Expresses (all IIRC) - one of the engine mounts contributes significantly to keeping the gear lever within operating range. There is something about filling some gearboxes higher than the original mark. The 2l petrol is the same as in 2l Peugeot 504s but FWD, actual size 1971cc.


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What's the retail on one of those plumbed in fire extinguisher systems?


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Posted 26 June 2018 - 05:00 PM

Primer!IMG_20180626_175139.jpg

I thought the rear wing was fine but there are some suspicious looking bubbles down here in the corner behind the rear wheel... Doesn't look too bad on the photo but it's those kind of big bubbles that mean there is filler down there. Fair play though, it must be a pretty old bodge, I've had it five years I think and there were no fresh bits of paint on it then!IMG_20180626_175220.jpg

I'll attack it tomorrow but it's probably going to be a MIG job... So much for no more welding!
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Posted 26 June 2018 - 06:11 PM

So much for no more welding!

 

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Posted 26 June 2018 - 07:02 PM

If you're not going to put a bumper on it anyway ....image.jpeg
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Posted 26 June 2018 - 10:08 PM

Not sure about the stickers but the towing eye and arrow pointing to it is definitely a good idea!
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Posted 26 June 2018 - 10:09 PM

FFS there is even a Y THO on my mig...
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Posted 27 June 2018 - 11:16 AM

Talbot Expresses (all IIRC) - one of the engine mounts contributes significantly to keeping the gear lever within operating range.


Without thread-forking too much, yes, you're right.. The engine mountings are one of a contributary set of issues with the gear linkage on these. The combination of soft engine mounts (or in many cases, delaminated ones) a ridiculously over-complex linkage and a poor design of a bell-crank arrangement on the gearbox which munches it's way through certain bushes means a positive gearchange in these is really very rare.

The LHD arrangement was massively better.
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Posted 29 June 2018 - 10:56 AM

Paint!IMG_20180629_094829.jpg IMG_20180629_094834.jpg

Next job? Sand down paint with 2000 grade paper then polish with some G3
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 12:55 PM

Paintwork done! (Well, externally anyway. Engine bay needs doing)IMG_20180712_123602.jpg IMG_20180712_123613.jpg IMG_20180712_123628.jpg

Next job I suppose ought to be fixing the exhaust pipe. It was fine when I got it but in my haste to get it off the trailer i caught the exhaust on the trailer...IMG_20180702_114407.jpg IMG_20180702_114419.jpg IMG_20180702_114413.jpg

I have put the front part back on for now. Mainly to keep the noise down when moving it. The original strap that would have held it was brokenIMG_20180702_132027.jpg
It was quicker and easier to replace it with a more modern set upIMG_20180702_132015.jpg

As much as I am enjoying seeing this car come back to life, it isn't what I want in my garage. I must remember that I am doing this to sell it and get my Renault 16 inside. That is what I want to keep long term, I already have a very nice 1950s car on the road, I don't need two.

So...

If anybody here wants it then let me know. Currently what is it worth? £1500? I shall carry on doing it up so the price will gradually up. I'm not willing to subject myself to the general public though, just you miscreants.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 01:00 PM

It is now solid. It has some wiring issues and no brakes but otherwise I see no problems getting it on the road. I drove it around 30 miles 4 or 5 years ago so it'll be fine...
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 04:23 PM

This is looking fantastic. I envy your bodywork and paint skills. 


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 04:30 PM

I hope you'll keep the original water in that headlight!

 

Are you sure that's water?  :shock:


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 12:45 AM

Wobseley 1500; do like, well done. Wood reed agane. GLWTS


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 09:25 AM

Yes I know yesterday I said that I had finished painting the exterior. Well today I have a busy day. So before I went to work I painted its nostrils whiteIMG_20180713_101318.jpg
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 04:57 PM

Looking good Tom.


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 07:48 PM

Just noticed and read this thread from the start.

What brilliant work! Well done.
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Posted 21 September 2018 - 08:53 PM

Haven't done much to this for a while. Now the welding is finished I thought I would turn to the interior.

The original one is filthy, tatty and beige IMG_20180921_211513.jpg IMG_20180921_211448.jpg

So a couple of years ago I drove down to Cornwall and bought another, far better one. It still needs repair but its better than the previous oneIMG_20180921_211459.jpg
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Posted 24 September 2018 - 02:27 PM

Are you matching the big grille insert to the nostrils leaving the shell chrome?  That might look okay with the rest.  Nice find on the interior.


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Posted 17 October 2018 - 07:43 PM

Are you matching the big grille insert to the nostrils leaving the shell chrome?  That might look okay with the rest.  Nice find on the interior.


No, the centre inserts are stainless steel. Don't want to paint them. The interior is out of a MK2. Have just realised it has a totally different front seat frame design. Not sure yet if that is going to be an issue or not




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