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#1 ONLINE   D Spares & Tyres

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 07:01 PM

There is mention of this somewhere but I can't find it so thought it could use its own thread. Its not really shite but although I am fixing it up, it is definitely not a restoration,just getting it back in the road in a useable condition. Lots of welding needed but no Hodges, I don't want the rust coming straight through. IMG_20171110_135651.jpg

Bought by me around four years ago, I parked it outside for two years and bought it home after that to start work on it but it got ignored for a year or so.

It started life in burgundy but I decided to paint the lower half white or cream to brighten it up.IMG_20170523_122928_hdr.jpg
I can only work on one side at a time due to the size of my garage but that's fine with me, I have been doing one panel at a time to help with moral. If I stripped the whole thing down it would look too daunting.IMG_20170914_164820.jpg
So I painted the front wing after many hours welding it. Virtually remanufactured the drivers side front panel but winter came before I could paint it so I decided it was time to turn the car around and start welding the other side... Painted it black just to keep the damp out.IMG_20171110_135741.jpg
You may notice the side is white but the wing is cream. I'm just experimenting with colours and will paint it all again next yearIMG_20171110_135709.jpg IMG_20171110_135723.jpg
Back in the garage now, it makes a change to see it this way round although it does look sorry for itselfIMG_20171110_150602.jpg
My little lad has renamed it the Holesley for obvious reasons...
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Posted 23 November 2017 - 07:09 PM

Good work. I like these with two-tone paint


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 07:14 PM

Some welding pictures. I tend not to take photos as I'm going along, but here's a few of some rot and sine repairsIMG_20171110_135800.jpg IMG_20171111_115117.jpg IMG_20171111_115135.jpg IMG_20171110_135823.jpg
Annoying having to cut away decent metal to get to rot but this was the best way to get to the rotten chassisIMG_20171119_110526.jpg IMG_20171119_121214.jpg IMG_20171123_134813.jpg IMG_20171123_142844.jpg
No idea if you can buy replacement arches but its as easy to make my own and far more cost effective! Sealed them with some fibreglass filler. It can be painted as soon as it gets warm again in the spring. Until then it can look bodged, but I know the truth.

Done loads if welding underneath but you don't need to see all that.

Will have a go at the sill end next...IMG_20171123_155820.jpg
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Posted 23 November 2017 - 08:05 PM

Lots of good work, I know these rot for fun, Fisholow bodies a byword for rust! Will be following this with interest, it's a worthwhile project.


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 08:47 PM

Nice find. Look forward to more photos as you go


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 09:02 PM

More restorations should aim for just 'getting it back on the road!' Good luck with it. I've always found these rather charming. Go well in Riley tune too...


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 09:55 PM

I've raced  few of these in my time............Sorry.


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 11:41 PM

Excellent stuff, Mr D.    Putting something like this back on the road inevitably hides the amount of work involved.   Well worthwhile.


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 11:45 PM

Two-tone burgundy 1500 you say?  Here's one I did earlier.

 

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Fortunately I didn't have any welding to do.

 

 


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 11:52 PM

Not shite? Don’t be silly.
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Posted 24 November 2017 - 07:01 AM

Splendid work and the best approach to a home restoration I'm sure.

My first few months of (learner) driving was in a burgundy one. (Actually a Riley - running on 3 cylinders only)
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Posted 24 November 2017 - 09:31 AM

What a lovely old car.


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Posted 24 November 2017 - 11:32 AM

More restorations should aim for just 'getting it back on the road!' Good luck with it. I've always found these rather charming. Go well in Riley tune too...

...and from the stories I've heard of the BSCC in the 60s, the "works" Riley 1.5 engines may have been more like 1.8...


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 11:16 AM

Opened the front garage door to find the Wolseley looking a bit shifty.

What is it up to? No wonder it looks so rough....IMG_20171124_091938.jpg IMG_20171124_091928.jpg

Turns out to be filler dust that had collected in the bumper over rider. The bungy has slipped and all the suspicious looking white powder has fallen on the floor in a neat little pile...

More updates later, I'm going to try to finish the n/s/r corner of the car today and put the back end back on wheels
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 02:35 PM

That must be why the later ones have bigger nostrils....


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 02:52 PM

Yeah yeah, filler dust. Right....

I missed this thread until now, great little cars these.
Brilliant work your doing. I like the two tone paint too, really suits it.
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 03:30 PM

Good work. I like these with two-tone paint

 

There's nothing wrong with two tone paint as long as both colours are the same shade of beige.


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 09:16 PM

Today I started with the rot on the end if the sill, it wasn't that bad. Its on its original sills. Well mostlyIMG_20171127_114901.jpg
Cut a bit of old washing machine to fitIMG_20171127_120310.jpg
That'll do. I'll paint it then fill and paint properly next yearIMG_20171127_124920.jpg
Time to move onto other areasIMG_20171127_132830.jpg
Yep that's a bit past its best, IMG_20171127_133817.jpg
Every time I measure and cut a plate it ends up wrong so I put the remains on the new metal and spray over it with an aerosol, then I know approximately where to cutIMG_20171127_133759.jpg
Good enough for me apart from one bit that looked solid but was too thin to world properly so had to cut an extra small plateIMG_20171127_144501.jpg
Found some filler that was put in the floor years before I had it. This bodge lasted quite well! I strangely enjoy finding ancient bodgesIMG_20171127_150125.jpg
That's it for today. I'll do a couple more hours on it tomorrow.
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 09:24 PM

How do you find using old washing machines compared to some fresh zintec sheet. I have heard washing machine steel is galvanized which is good for rust protection but not so conducive to being welded.
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 09:25 PM

I've raced  few of these in my time............Sorry.


I've raced a Cortina, Escort, Capri, Triumph Acclaim, Maestro, Civic, Lada Riva. They were all worthless old cars at the time, although the Cortina was too good to race really and just on the verge of being a classic.

Had far more fun racing that than restoring the Wolseley though! That was years ago. This is my penance I suppose
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 09:29 PM

Lots of good work, I know these rot for fun, Fisholow bodies a byword for rust! Will be following this with interest, it's a worthwhile project.


My Pennant was built by Fishalow too. No rot on that. ☺
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 09:33 PM

More restorations should aim for just 'getting it back on the road!' Good luck with it. I've always found these rather charming. Go well in Riley tune too...

Excellent stuff, Mr D.    Putting something like this back on the road inevitably hides the amount of work involved.   Well worthwhile.


Hours and hours of graft that doesn't really show! Some of the work I have done looks a little shoddy. For instance the rotten floorpans have been replaced with flat steel rather than the fluted originals to save money and time. I've hammered ridges in for strength though but if you look underneath its really obvious where I've skimped. If I was after perfection though, it would never get done

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Posted 27 November 2017 - 09:35 PM

How do you find using old washing machines compared to some fresh zintec sheet. I have heard washing machine steel is galvanized which is good for rust protection but not so conducive to being welded.


I just use the sides which are powder coated I think. Or just whatever steel I can find. I'm out of washing machine so an Audi A3 bonnet is next in line to get butchered
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Posted 28 November 2017 - 11:38 AM

Every time I measure and cut a plate it ends up wrong so I put the remains on the new metal and spray over it with an aerosol, then I know approximately where to cut

I take it you don't make cornflake-packet or similar cardboard templates?


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 12:23 PM

Great work - I shudder to think of the underneath TBH. Another on my 'lovely old English cars' that I've shied away from due to a. the crap I've already got   and  b. they apparently rust even more than my exhibits a.!!!!

Two tone would really suit this......

Crack on good sir........


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 06:01 PM

I take it you don't make cornflake-packet or similar cardboard templates?


Yes, sometimes. It depends on how much of the original shape is left or how good the job needs to be!

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 06:07 PM

Great work - I shudder to think of the underneath TBH


Its not as bad as it could be. Although today I have found rot in one of the main chassis rails that run most of the length of the car. It is rotten by the gearbox cross member. There is an lazy part of me that just wants to patch it up and weld the chassis to the crossmember but I must resist the demons from my past... Tomorrow I shall try to remove the crossmember without snapping all the bolts...

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 09:17 PM

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I reckon the exhaust may have been repaired beforeIMG_20171128_190959.jpg

Didn't get much done today. Ran out of gas so had to drive to Dudley to get some more
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 09:49 PM

Today's work:IMG_20171129_204832.jpg IMG_20171129_204851.jpg

Made up the main chassis rail. The bottom section was rotten as was the lower inch of the sides. I enjoy welding steel of this thickness, its much more pleasant than welding thin body panels. No washing machines were harmed today, I got some thick steel offcuts from my local fabricator

Looks better with paint. I didn't tidy up the welds with the linisher, it was getting a bit late for making a racket. IMG_20171129_211329.jpg

I have to cut away more good steel tomorrow from inside the car to access the top of the crossmember bolts and weld them in place.
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 09:58 PM

great work,i use the florescent lighting metal when needs must,,,, :-D


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