Wack Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 Cheap donor? Thanks for that, just sent him a message, if he breaks it i'd definitely be interested in quite a lot off it but not the whole car at 2k , nowhere to put it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevebrookman Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Thanks, thanks a fuckin' lot!Instead of looking at RX400Hs or Q5s for MrsN's next car , that's convinced me I can't live without a 3.6 V8 Rangie, I hope your spare room is big enough for a family of 6, 2 dogs and a cat, because bankruptcy and homelessness are the only logical outcome for someone who's not a millionaire farmer and ex-publishing mogul. WCPGW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
320touring Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 If anyone else has baws the size of planets.. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F332458390857 dome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
320touring Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 When you picking it up I have enough in my bawsack with 3x Clio 172s Some other fool (Dome?) Can take this one HarmonicCheeseburger, dome and chodweaver 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I have enough in my bawsack with 3x Clio 172s Some other fool (Dome?) Can take this one Hmm. It does say 'dome' to me, too. dome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dome Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Cheers guys, what do you take me for?* Clicks "watch" * HarmonicCheeseburger, chodweaver, warninglight and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 The joy of moderns is you can have a car like the one in this thread with a duff motor but taking another motor and dropping it in is no guarantee that it will run - heard plenty of tales of this happening. Tamworthbay, Lacquer Peel and wrenchvolt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wack Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 This one is running and driving though so worst case it could be repaired I may have found a bare engine for £100 out of an X5 , guy has really good feedback but it's in deepest darkest norfolk but has done 160k , seems genuine enough as he's been selling bits off it for weeks on ebay I have a job to Leicester leaving about 2pm but it adds 150 miles on to go and get it and i'm not sure I can be arsed, there's one 50 miles away for £280 ono with a few less miles and still has an alternator and fuel pump on as well as the loom and whatnot Spoke to steve and he said get it because if it's a knackered valve the parts will be more than that, decisions decisions £280https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-5-E39-3-E46-X5-E53-7-E38-3-0D-ENGINE-M57-306D1-NEAR-COMPLETE-AS-PICS-138K/263281694684?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 £100https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bmw-e39-e46-530d-engine-x5-3-0d-m57d30/172977924441?hash=item284649a959:g:EmQAAOSwhDRZ4dQj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I'd go for the £280 one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermchugh79 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I'd go for the 280 one as well Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wack Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 That's what I'm thinking , some spare parts with it, not that I'm likely to need them as it's going to be mega reliable. They_all_do_that_sir, djim and tooSavvy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooSavvy Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 ^^^ ha ha True Ballsack Speak. TS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianRetro Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I think I'd pick up a running 530d to be sure the engine was good? Put the range rover one in the boot and sell it as spares or repairs once the job's done or break it. scruff and dome 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wack Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 I looked at that option but a running one is 4-5x the cost of the £280 engine which is 50 miles away , he has over 4000 positive feedback, if he was selling shite there's be a few negatives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianRetro Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 But at £1000 for the Range Rover, even £1000 for a running 530d, and say, £500 to fit it - rather than the labour and parts cost in building one engine out of two and fitting that - there's still plenty of money in the Range Rover rather than the possiblity of having a lovely Range Rover and two borked engines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wack Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 Having had a quick look on eBay cheap 530Ds have all done over 200k and they're not that cheap , it'd have to be the lowest power engine in any case as the LR Ecu could throw a wobbly as the injectors and Turbo are different on later cars, plus if I found a cheap one it'd be miles away and I'd have to tax and insure it to drive it Ive been .told all the blocks and heads are the same , it's the bolt on bits that change the power so chances are all the original parts will need to go on the new block anyway . I've done a deal on the Engine £200 collected so I think it's worth the risk dome, paulplom, DeeJay and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianRetro Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 To be fair, I assumed you could pick up a running 530d for well under £1000 - but then I've never looked. Good luck with it. Keep us informed/amused/jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wack Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 Amused is what I'm going for It's at steves garage in Blackburn but not without an incident First impressions from Steve , I'd have bought it , good enough for me , I went down to Oswestry to pick the engine up , the guy had a toy lift truck that got it to within a foot of the height of the bed on the transit then he looked at me , yeah that's not happening, so he went and found somebody with a forklift RR arrived at steves on a trailer towed by a sprinter , as the guy backed it in the yard the wheel bearing collapsed and the wheel fell off the trailer, talk about dodged a bullet , apparently the guy went back towing a 3 wheeled trailer I've been involved in haulage for 25 years, towing 3.5t trailers for 20 of those , never in a million years would I have towed a 3 wheel trailer , especially when I had a transporter I could winch it on to Sorry still no pictures , hailstorm so I didn't hang around I'm starting to think this car is going to be drama all the way CreepingJesus and scruff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNWeigh Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Having had a quick look on eBay cheap 530Ds have all done over 200k and they're not that cheap , it'd have to be the lowest power engine in any case as the LR Ecu could throw a wobbly as the injectors and Turbo are different on later cars, plus if I found a cheap one it'd be miles away and I'd have to tax and insure it to drive it Ive been .told all the blocks and heads are the same , it's the bolt on bits that change the power so chances are all the original parts will need to go on the new block anyway .I've done a deal on the Engine £200 collected so I think it's worth the riskAfter driving all the way to South Wales to pick up a head for my e61 530d ( ebayer kept fucking about sending it and the car was on a mates ramp) after a broken cam chain incident, I can categorically tell you that all heads and blocks are NOT the same!Mine apparentlly had an F10 type engine with hollow cams or some such bollocks, but there are different types of blocks and heads depending on model and output, in the end I sold it on eBay Spears or Reapers, last seen on an overloaded Transit beaver tail en-route to Lithuania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Right. I want a collection caper. I want a pez station pap. Should those two things not materialise within the next few hours, I want this thread closed. The Moog, The Reverend Bluejeans, NorthernMonkey and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren t claim Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I'll just leave this here... The Reverend Bluejeans and richardthestag 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefag Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Doug DeMuro, nickname - Thrush. He writes great content then ruins it by opening his fucking mouth. meshking, 23rdian and The Reverend Bluejeans 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wack Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 It can't be worse than XJ to XK , that was just block and heads , everything else had to be swapped including all 4 cams , according to a few guys on FF RR the bore and stroke is the same but the new engine is 5kw more powerful , they seem to think that's because they didn't want the RR to be as powerful as the X5 much like they did with the rover 25 when they owned it , why build a car that out competes you own product. Best thing to do is have both engines on a bench and compare them so that's the plan , so far opinion is the 5kw extra is Ecu , the sump may be different as the RR has baffles to stop oil starvation at high angles and the BMW has swirl flaps so the inlet manifold will need to be changed over. I'm going to try and be there as much as possible while Steve is doing it so I can document what's been done in case it helps anyone else but that may not work out if working gets in the way I'll just leave this here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvJCCoLoKRA[fingers in ears] Can't hear you la la la la[/fingers in ears] warren t claim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Reverend Bluejeans Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Also worth bearing in mind that the M57 went though a major change in 2003 (204 bhp BMW), different head and cams, rocker cover etc. Also, M57 pistons or rings don't fail without there being something else wrong such as a fucked injector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wack Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 Noted thanks , this one is out of a 2002 and is definitely only 5kw more than the LR version , the LR only ever got the low power version so I'm informed , at £200 for a complete bar the turbo engine I was prepared to risk it , if it doesn't work out I'll look for another option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 2002 is the original M57 then, no worries there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wack Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 Blimey some progress, just rang Steve the mechanic and he's got the old engine out and is 1/2 way through swapping bits over, he wants to get the new one in before close of play tonight so he can close the doors saturday at lunch and concentrate on getting it running without any interruptions, opinion on the LR forums was that it's the same engine just BMW ran the X5 version with a different map so as not to be supplying an engine with the same power to a rival competitor so he's going to try it with the BMW fuel pump and injectors but swap inlet manifolds as the BMW may have swirl flaps which we don't want . Had a good look round it , needs 4 tyres pretty soon which will be 40% of the purchase price of the car so I might look for some 20" wheels with decent tyres on , not sure yet , both indicators/sidelights on the front as one is broken and one has a crack and a piece of trim around the drivers seat I'm also going to have to youtube how to clean a cream leather interior Still no pictures but I'm going up saturday as long as there's not a foot of snow between now and then dome, NorfolkNWeigh, Lacquer Peel and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dome Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Blimey some progress, just rang Steve the mechanic and he's got the old engine out and is 1/2 way through swapping bits over, he wants to get the new one in before close of play tonight so he can close the doors saturday at lunch and concentrate on getting it running without any interruptions, opinion on the LR forums was that it's the same engine just BMW ran the X5 version with a different map so as not to be supplying an engine with the same power to a rival competitor so he's going to try it with the BMW fuel pump and injectors but swap inlet manifolds as the BMW may have swirl flaps which we don't want . Had a good look round it , needs 4 tyres pretty soon which will be 40% of the purchase price of the car so I might look for some 20" wheels with decent tyres on , not sure yet , both indicators/sidelights on the front as one is broken and one has a crack and a piece of trim around the drivers seat I'm also going to have to youtube how to clean a cream leather interior Still no pictures but I'm going up saturday as long as there's not a foot of snow between now and then Brilliant stuff, I need a Steve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wack Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 Sometimes it's a bit of a PITA that he's in Blackburn and I'm in Warrington but I know I can trust him and his garage is a 10 minute walk from the train station so at least it's doable on public transport, I dread to think what some of the jobs I've had done over the years would cost elsewhere. Good news is it didn't move for 3 days and was still standing up on the suspension so it doesn't look like it's leaking billyboy406v6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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