Wanted 15/02/18 Renault 30 Project - gone to a safe new home

[Datsuncog]

Always plenty of interesting stuff to be found. My favourite is all the 1970s/1980s Citroens at the Citroen specialists, top end of Bradford. Took loads of photos and posted them on here ages ago, but nobody was really interested.

 

Don't remember seeing those - sometimes some top-notch content just falls between the cracks for one reason or another. Could you re-post the link here?

[Tadhg Tiogar]

....My favourite is all the 1970s/1980s Citroens at the Citroen specialists, top end of Bradford. Took loads of photos and posted them on here ages ago, but nobody was really interested.

Is there a link to the Citroen photos?

[doubleyeller]

Yeah sure. My memory serves me incorrectly, there was a little response. I think that someone had reported it a year or two earlier. 

 

http://autoshite.com/topic/26411-well-bugger-me-with-a-fishfork-citroen-spotting-content/?view=findpost&p=1107063&hl=bradford

[Tadhg Tiogar]

Yeah sure. My memory serves me incorrectly, there was a little response. I think that someone had reported it a year or two earlier. 

 

http://autoshite.com/topic/26411-well-bugger-me-with-a-fishfork-citroen-spotting-content/?view=findpost&p=1107063&hl=bradford

That CX Safari could be useful.

[Junkman]

I stand corrected - had thought the Series II designation referred to the 1970-on cars with the plastic grille and bonnet blips to accommodate a V8, but then I'm no Rover expert. Either way, this one hasn't run for a fair while, though does seem moderately sound. Original Irish car, I'm informed.

 

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(Apologies - veering off topic somewhat now)

Oh, it's a mix of Series 1 and Series 2 stuff.

So depending on the actual build year, it's either a Series 1 with Series 2 side trim,

taillights, bootlid, sail panels and rear bumper, or a Series 2 with a Series 1 grille and bonnet.

[Junkman]

When Junkman was over there I was surprised he didn't spot this P6 which is for sale about 50 metres away.

 

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Seller doesn't have a price that he wants for it as I asked but he's a very reasonable chap who works on cars for fun so a fair offer would probably be accepted (no XBoxes).

Do not underestimate The Junkman!

 

Conrad and I had a lengthy look at the car when we were there, however, there was no indication that it is for sale.

However, I have moved on a bit from P6es.

[Junkman]

Ahem!...... The PRV V6 a terrible engine!!!

 

Could you please explain what makes you think that?

[Eddie Honda]

Could you please explain what makes you think that?

It's two pots short of a Junkman approved Vee?

[DodgyBastard]

Thanks for the offer, but I have a comprehensive photo album of all areas of the car. There are now 2 Renault 20 owners interested, both of whom have seen the car previously. This car was my pride and joy, secured only after 10 years of trying. Having spent so many hours on such an inhumanely difficult project, I feel somewhat depressed and humiliated that it has got to go. I am going to let my friend get it loaded, I really don't want to be around to see it leave Personality wise, I much prefer one prospective buyer over the other, although I have confidence in the good intentions of both. One way or another it will be going to a good, safe (and indoors!) home.

 

Junkman went to see the Rover when he was here.

Any chance of putting your comprehensive collection of photos up on the forum, maybe someone on here will be crazy enough to take it on.

 

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[doubleyeller]

Any chance of putting your comprehensive collection of photos up on the forum, maybe someone on here will be crazy enough to take it on.

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I've sorted it on the phone today, the R20 TS guy is taking it. He's got somewhere inside and dry to keep it (gentleman farmer) and I suppose even if it ends up transporting sacks of animal feed around the farm at least it has found some way of living on into it's fourth decade. The bodywork is totally knackered in every conceivable way, so it's appearance is hardly a major consideration! He lives within about an hour's drive so I will still be able to go pay the occasional visit I guess.

[tooSavvy]

.... IF YOU DO visit

 

Don't criticise what R20 has done - his car/his roolz

 

*Angrydicky

 

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[doubleyeller]

.... IF YOU DO visit

Don't criticise what R20 has done - his car/his roolzTS

Wouldn't dream of it. Unless he uses it as roadside advertising board in his field for p*******ea**

[Asimo]

If I had the cash, I would love a DeLorean.  Yes, they are horribly flawed, have a terrible engine, everyone assumes they are always a BTTF car and the gullwing doors are not really practical, but I think the styling was absolutely spot-on and a water-cooled rear-engined design is just the level of Engineering complexity and absurdity that appeals to me.

 

Might have to put a modern V6 in it though.  And one with the correct angle between the cylinder banks.  A Peugeot/Citroen ES4 (I think that's the code) 3.0V6 with 200hp should be ideal shirley?

 

What is the "horrible flaw" in a Delorean?  For me the big nono is the gullwing doors and that crappy film. (Wish they'd used an E-type instead)

 

It is a shame they have got expensive because pretty much everything else is spot on for a shite sports car.

 

A PRV V6 powered my daily for 5 years and I would have another with no hesitation. (But I would fit a modern carburetter)

 

 

The correct angle between the cylinder banks of a V6 with a three throw crank is 120º. Sadly so far, no car maker has bothered to make such an engine except for racing. 

 

60º V6s need an expensive and weak 6 throw crankshaft as do those 90º V6s bodged for an even firing angle between the two banks.

[HillmanImp]

Do not underestimate The Junkman!

 

Conrad and I had a lengthy look at the car when we were there, however, there was no indication that it is for sale.

However, I have moved on a bit from P6es.

 

Ah, its not advertised as being up for sale, just like it doesn't have a price. You need to happen to speak to the chap to find out its up for sale and then make a guess at how much he wants for it but it is definitely up for sale for an amount of money, I just don't know how much. 

[doubleyeller]

Ah, its not advertised as being up for sale, just like it doesn't have a price. You need to happen to speak to the chap to find out its up for sale and then make a guess at how much he wants for it but it is definitely up for sale for an amount of money, I just don't know how much.

 

Well I suppose any car is for sale for the right money (remember that wonderfully tatty Saab 99 suffering from ring and tin worm which I spotted in Pateley bridge?)

[Hertz]

Ahem!...... The PRV V6 a terrible engine!!! Granted a bit of a bad joke stuffed in a car with the pretensions of a Delorean, but I think to brand it a terrible engine is a bit rough. Fine for an R30 or Tagora or 604 and their ilk. Or are you a PRV hater........ Boooooooo

 

It's a cracking engine when you strap a Turbo onto it 

[Junkman]

Ah, its not advertised as being up for sale, just like it doesn't have a price.

Sounds like a brilliant strategy. The man should head the Brexit negotiations.

[Datsuncog]

Oh, it's a mix of Series 1 and Series 2 stuff.

So depending on the actual build year, it's either a Series 1 with serie 2 side trim, taillights, bootlid, sail panels and rear bumper, or a Series 2 with Series 1 grille and bonnet.

 

So... possibly either a Series 1 that's been rear-ended and rebuilt with later stuff, or a Series 2 that's gone into a wall and rebuilt with earlier stuff... sounds about right!

 

Logbook claims it's a 1968 car, but it's anyone's guess really... thinking about it, I wouldn't be 100% surprised if there'd been some VIN jiggery-pokery at some stage to magically turn this into a pre-1970 car, thus qualifying for both the €25 vintage tax rate and NCT exemption under the 30-year rule introduced in 2000.

 

There was vague talk of digging it out and returning it to the road for use as our wedding car a number of years back, but it's in Leitrim and I'm in Antrim (with no facilities to work at a car) so not the easiest to access to carry out repairs... been standing since 2003 or so, therefore brakes may* need some work...

[Tagster]

It's a cracking engine when you strap a Turbo onto it 

True, or some big triple choke carbs, bigger valves, livelier cam and some tubular headers.

 

Hmmm, that sounds familiar.........

[HillmanImp]

Sounds like a brilliant strategy. The man should head the Brexit negotiations.

Ha, yeah. Helen Keller would be better than the current lot mind you.

 

TBF, he's retired, and I don't think he needs the money so I just don't think he's done owt about selling it but people that know him know its up for sale if they make a reasonable offer (god knows what though). Will probably end up on ebay eventually unless I get drunk and fancy living in it.

 

He's got a couple of immaculately restored cars, several in reasonable useable nick and a few full restorations hidden away.

[doubleyeller]

Ok folks, 

 

I'm pleased to report (somewhat belatedly, my apologies) that I have managed to send the R30 off to a safe new home in the Vale of York

 

The new owner is a gentleman farmer who also owns - wait for it - a Renault 20 TS AND a Renault 20 TX which are his pride and joy. Due to my health, he has ended up with the Bournemouth registered R20 TX which I repatriated from Ireland last month. It was something of an agony to sell what is probably one of the last (sort of) roadworthy Automatic Renault 20s in the country after I have wanted one for so long. However, with mental health issues affecting me atm, the stress of trying to find affordable Michelin TRX tyres and sort out a 70's Renault autobox stuck in second just wasn't worth enduring. I take consolation in the fact that I have done this nation's roads a great service by increasing the survivor count by at least 25%!

 

The R30 is now safely stowed under a Car Port in his yard. The plan is to give it the full treatment and get it roadworthy again. Will it ever see Tarmac again? Only God knows that, but I think it's been given a fair chance at least to live. I am invited to be involved in continuing restoration, and hope to be. I imagine that it will be a far more enjoyable project now that it's got a home without limit of time! Here are some photos of her leaving for her new home. I apologise for the poor quality, but I didn't want to be around to see her leave, so my mate's wife was assigned photo duties! 

 

[mk2_craig]

Sad times. But I bet the load off your mind is immeasurable. Buying crap old cars is great short term therapy but an excellent way to totally screw up your stress levels in the longer run!

[doubleyeller]

Sad times. But I bet the load off your mind is immeasurable. Buying crap old cars is great short term therapy but an excellent way to totally screw up your stress levels in the longer run!

 

Oh god yes! It's just that I spent 10 years wanting to buy this car (I first saw it when it was still in good nick back in 2006) so to see the dream end with someone just taking it away for nothing is a bit hard to swallow. On the plus side, like you say, I can at least think about something else now, and tI will still be able to lend a hand in it's restoration by the sound of things. At least it hasn't been scrapped. Now that would be very difficult to deal with

[Mrs6C]

Ok folks, 

 

I'm pleased to report (somewhat belatedly, my apologies) that I have managed to send the R30 off to a safe new home in the Vale of York

 

The new owner is a gentleman farmer who also owns - wait for it - a Renault 20 TS AND a Renault 20 TX which are his pride and joy. Due to my health, he has ended up with the Bournemouth registered R20 TX which I repatriated from Ireland last month. It was something of an agony to sell what is probably one of the last (sort of) roadworthy Automatic Renault 20s in the country after I have wanted one for so long. However, with mental health issues affecting me atm, the stress of trying to find affordable Michelin TRX tyres and sort out a 70's Renault autobox stuck in second just wasn't worth enduring. I take consolation in the fact that I have done this nation's roads a great service by increasing the survivor count by at least 25%!

 

The R30 is now safely stowed under a Car Port in his yard. The plan is to give it the full treatment and get it roadworthy again. Will it ever see Tarmac again? Only God knows that, but I think it's been given a fair chance at least to live. I am invited to be involved in continuing restoration, and hope to be. I imagine that it will be a far more enjoyable project now that it's got a home without limit of time! Here are some photos of her leaving for her new home. I apologise for the poor quality, but I didn't want to be around to see her leave, so my mate's wife was assigned photo duties! 

Well done! Saving cars for the nation is just as worthy as saving them for yourself, perhaps even more so. Good on you for giving both the R20TX and R30 another chance at a good future, even if it wasn't what you would have wanted in an ideal world.

 

I hope that you will be able to keep a hand in the R30's life ongoing, but on easier terms and with actual pleasure rather than with stress!  

[Datsuncog]

Aw dude. No doubt it's a huge wrench to see this one go... but you've played an absolute blinder in helping to keep this survivor out of the fragger and helping to secure its future - which is as much as anyone can do.

 

Hey - it starts, it rolls, and it's got plenty of useful spares with it - and hopefully it'll now be kept under cover and in the hands of someone with spare time and deep enough pockets to do whatever needs to be done. So while it's a sad sight to see a long-cherished dream recede into the distance on the back of a beavertail, it's not adieu - just au revoir. Hopefully the next time you clap eyes on VPE, she'll be a step or two closer to being back on the road again.

 

And yeah, I've been there with thousands of pounds and years of my life sunk into a car that still won't feckin' go, and it's not a happy place to be. Your health's just gotta come first. So take heart, rest up, keep checking in here - and hey, who knows what might be on the horizon.

 

(Possibly even a Horizon?)

 

Take care!