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#69871 OFFLINE   MarvinsMom

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 07:11 PM

I have a degree in civil engineering, but I've never practiced it nor went the route of chartered engineer. I thought it was only those that passed the chartered exams that were 'allowed' to use the title engineer.

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i've got a degree in civil engineering, and work in the design office of a steel fabricator.

 

my official job title is structural engineer.

 

but i've never ever had even the slightest inclination to try and pass the part 3 exam and "become" a chartered engineer.


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 07:41 PM

My aunt sadly had a similar fate late last year. Went to the doctors with a persistent cough.
Diagnosis was terminal and in 3 months she was gone.
She was in her eighties but had been in rude health up to that point.
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:18 PM

There's been years of work into cancer but what makes people get it?

I'm not well read on it and I know there's all the obvious stuff to avoid but it just seems so common now that surely there must be other things happening apart from don't eat or drink this that or the other.

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:27 PM

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#69875 OFFLINE   mat_the_cat

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:32 PM

There's been years of work into cancer but what makes people get it?

 

My thoughts exactly. From what I can tell there are quite a few factors which will increase the risk, but there must be more to it than that as I know of people who logically would be high risk, yet live to a ripe old age. And others who you'd think would be a safe bet, yet they shuffle off early. So I suspect there is a lot which science doesn't yet fully understand.

 

In other news, my (relatively minor) grump is the amount of salt on the roads despite only a handful of true frosts. I'm getting through 5 litres of screenwash a week!



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:55 PM

There's been years of work into cancer but what makes people get it?

I'm not well read on it and I know there's all the obvious stuff to avoid but it just seems so common now that surely there must be other things happening apart from don't eat or drink this that or the other.

 

I think part of the problem is that we are living longer, giving cancer, alzheimers and other nasties time to strike. In the good old days, typhoid, tuberculosis, smallpox, and illnesses caused by poor living and working conditions tended to thin out the population before the often subtle symptoms of cancer were even noticed.


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:01 PM



There's been years of work into cancer but what makes people get it?

I'm not well read on it and I know there's all the obvious stuff to avoid but it just seems so common now that surely there must be other things happening apart from don't eat or drink this that or the other.


It's not one thing. It's many different forms which have been bundled together.

That's why there is no one cure. In car terms it is like saying we want to cure car breakdowns. Loads of different reasons so not one way to fix it.

Cancer itself is cells growing out of control.

We survive by cells dying and being replaced all the time. They normally replace the dead ones and stop.

Cancer means they don't stop and keep growing causing damage to other parts of us.

The longer we live the more likely it is to effect us - mainly because there are more opportunities for it to occur with cell replication.

Chance of bladder cancer for men is 3.76% which means 1 in 27 men will get it.

In the US 1 in 3 men will get some form of cancer - hence why it touches us all.

That is sort of the basics - worth having a read around.
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:05 PM

Thanks Moog, that's a good starter for 10 in language I can understand.

 

It is weird that it seems so much more common these days - but people live longer and diagnosis is getting better. In the black and white days, sometimes people just died. That wouldn't be accepted now, so maybe it just went undiagnosed.



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:22 PM

There is a flippin fantastic book called 'the emperor of all maladies' all about cancer. It's sort of a history of cancer, discoveries and treatment, a bit of biology, bit of history, politics, the lot. I would say it's one of the best-written and most interesting books I have ever read. It teaches you what Moog has just said plus loads more. As Moog says, although we use one word for them all, 'cancer' is an almost infinite number of different problems, all with their own best way to avoid/manage/treat etc. I seriously cannot recommend that book enough.
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:27 PM

It's an odd stat that over 50% men over 60 die with prostate cancer.

Mostly it isn't the thing that is the cause of death.

It is also why stem cells are brilliant/scary. Implanting new cells that can grow into anything sounds wonderful, but unless they know what to turn into and also know to turn off then effectively you are increasing the cancer chance hugely .

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:27 PM

It's also not just Humans or even mammals who get it. Most living creatures can. Even sharks:
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Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:20 AM

Car insurance gone up. Apparently I failed to declare an at fault claim on the 24th of February 2016. The s reg ford fiesta I briefly bought after the van crash that I insured and drove once to the MOT station and back was involved in an at fault incident. First I knew about it. Something on the cue database. So now I have to ring Aviva/Norwich union to find out more info and get it removed from cue then ring Lloyd's and give them proof. FFS. To top it off my housing benefits have been suspended due to the fact I'm in arrears. I'm in arrears because the council arsed my claim up. I'm also paying the arrears off. So it's apparently logical to cause more financial difficulty to someone already in financial difficulty by suspending my claim which in turn will cause more arrears. Fucking fan dabby dozy

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:36 AM

Logic doesn't come into it.  Nothing about the benefits system has been logical for some time now.



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Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:55 AM

Not sure if I should post this here, but my aunt died rather suddenly yesterday. I'm not posting this for sympathy, but more to highlight the fact that you never know when your time will come.

 

She went into hospital on Wednesday complaining of constantly being sick, Thursday was diagnosed with terminal cancer in the lymphatic system, and died peacefully in the early hours of Friday morning. At least there was no long drawn-out suffering, and still a massive surprise at 61.

 

We've still not recycled our Christmas cards, and on looking back at the one she sent us she'd written "Best wishes for the New Year". That really brought it home how unexpected it can be, not realising that in less than a month's time she wouldn't be with us.

 

So go out and do those things you've always wanted to do, live life with as few regrets as possible! Give your loved one(s) a hug and cherish the time you have :-)

 

FWIW that's awful news, Mat, and you have my deepest sympathies.


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:38 AM

Not sure if I should post this here, but my aunt died rather suddenly yesterday. I'm not posting this for sympathy, but more to highlight the fact that you never know when your time will come.

She went into hospital on Wednesday complaining of constantly being sick, Thursday was diagnosed with terminal cancer in the lymphatic system, and died peacefully in the early hours of Friday morning. At least there was no long drawn-out suffering, and still a massive surprise at 61.

We've still not recycled our Christmas cards, and on looking back at the one she sent us she'd written "Best wishes for the New Year". That really brought it home how unexpected it can be, not realising that in less than a month's time she wouldn't be with us.

So go out and do those things you've always wanted to do, live life with as few regrets as possible! Give your loved one(s) a hug and cherish the time you have :-)

I know how you feel. I lost my dad to pancreatic cancer in November. He had some pain , so went to the doctors. Some scans showed pancreatic cancer. New scans 2 weeks later showed it had spread to his liver. He was gone 3 months and a day after first diagnosis. Christmas was bad this year, as my mum was without her husband for the first time in 55 years.i suppose I should have posted this up in this thread when it happened, but a lot was going in obviously.

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:42 AM

Just had a wee cry about my dad after commenting on Mat's post. That's allowed, isn't it?


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:24 AM

Guys that come and check new upvc windows that have been thrown in are called engineers too apparently. Confirmed, legit, when he rolled up on his steam engine... Not.

 

As a Chartered Engineer it kind of boils my piss, but only a little.

 

I believe that I'm fairly mediocre as an Engineer, but managing to get Chartered was really more luck than judgement.

Did very bad at A levels including failing maths.

Managed to get onto a HND at Coventry Poly

Worked balls off and at end of 1st year transferred straight to 2nd year of Honours Degree, which was accredited by IProDE

Did my year in Industry which was accredited.

Passed with a Desmond (2:2) and went to work at Lucas Engineering and Systems where their graduate scheme was accredited by IManfE (Nee IProdE).  

Filled in and had signed every page of log book.

Work involved collaboration with a few universities.

5 years later I applied to IEE (Now the IET) with a 4 sponsors including a Past President of IProdE, 2 Professors (and university department heads and a Dr someone - all of them Fellows of IEE or IMechE.

 

All I'd done was turn up for work and document (with a little spin) what I'd done.

 

The interview went well because I bought all sorts of bits and drawings and stuff that I'd worked on, and retired Engineers like to see that kind of thing.



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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:27 AM

My son worked on Cancer cures for his year in industry on his MChem, which basically ruled out 0.0000000001% of potential cures as not worth looking at further.



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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:28 AM

Not sure if I should post this here, but my aunt died rather suddenly yesterday. I'm not posting this for sympathy, but more to highlight the fact that you never know when your time will come.

She went into hospital on Wednesday complaining of constantly being sick, Thursday was diagnosed with terminal cancer in the lymphatic system, and died peacefully in the early hours of Friday morning. At least there was no long drawn-out suffering, and still a massive surprise at 61.

We've still not recycled our Christmas cards, and on looking back at the one she sent us she'd written "Best wishes for the New Year". That really brought it home how unexpected it can be, not realising that in less than a month's time she wouldn't be with us.

So go out and do those things you've always wanted to do, live life with as few regrets as possible! Give your loved one(s) a hug and cherish the time you have :-)

Thoughts are with you. I've lost two aunts recently. One just before Christmas,one just after. Both aged 52 both cancer. I agree that life can be fleeting. Never know what is coming
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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:29 AM

Just had a wee cry about my dad after commenting on Mat's post. That's allowed, isn't it?


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:43 AM

Mat_the_cat, my condolences too - I lost my father to non-Hodgkins lymphoma when he was 63, it's a bit of a bugger.
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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:52 AM

This happened to my dad, from whom I inherited my interest in things automotive. On 19th January this year it will be 30 years since he died, aged just 44 and three years younger than I am now. My thoughts are with those who have lost loved ones.

 

I know how you feel. I lost my dad to pancreatic cancer in November. He had some pain , so went to the doctors. Some scans showed pancreatic cancer. New scans 2 weeks later showed it had spread to his liver. He was gone 3 months and a day after first diagnosis. Christmas was bad this year, as my mum was without her husband for the first time in 55 years.i suppose I should have posted this up in this thread when it happened, but a lot was going in obviously.

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:55 AM

As I have a c&g in carpentry AND joinery can I call myself a wood engineer ? 

 

I prefer timber technician myself.

ah a wood butcher

 

 

 

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:59 AM

Milwall are playing today. Lot of pressure on parking in the area...some interesting parking 

 

you can bet if they'd park on the pavement they would've been ticketed already!


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 10:24 AM

Mat_the_cat, my condolences too - I lost my father to non-Hodgkins lymphoma when he was 63, it's a bit of a bugger.

 

 

My ex wife was diagnosed with that in 2004, mainly because it was caught early-her GP sent her for tests after she went to see him. Had to undergo a long and intense period of radiotherapy.

 

She was told that the recovery rate 10 years earlier was 1 in 100 - when she was diagnosed it was up to 98 in 100.

 

Still grumpy that there are still1% that wont survive.


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 11:19 AM

I find recently that I no longer enjoy things like Xbox, I see it as a waste of time... I loved Xbox...? House to myself last night, switched it on and played for about an hour before getting mind numbingly bored, played something else... Bored instantly, looked at another game... Looked boring.

 

I thought about a film, go get some beer, order pizza... Na, the saving of £30 was too attractive so I made a cup of tea and internetted whilst on a cross trainer... Thought about building a mini gym in the garden.

 

Looked at some new clobber, put stuff in me basket then closed the page, more £££ saved. My eBay basket keeps reminding me that it's empty... Empty!

 

Transferred spare cash to an account I don't have access to... it'll be safe there I thinks...Wtf?

 

House to myself still... Think I'll get up and make some tea...!

 

Don't know if you've noticed but... I THINK IM TURNING INTO A TIGHT OLD GIT!


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:54 PM

ah a wood butcher

 

 

 

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Where's he gone !! Wood butcher indeed. I'll get him when he pops his beard up, later.



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Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:27 PM

Where's he gone !! Wood butcher indeed. I'll get him when he pops his beard up, later.


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 04:06 PM

Fooking Cancer

A work mate went to see his doctor at the beginning of December,complaining about a sore throat.

Diagnosed with terminal cancer 3-6 months.

Died 2nd January same age as me 47,leaves 3 kids 10-17.


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 04:42 PM

Fooking Cancer
A work mate went to see his doctor at the beginning of December,complaining about a sore throat.
Diagnosed with terminal cancer 3-6 months.
Died 2nd January same age as me 47,leaves 3 kids 10-17.

:-( shit, that’s seriously bad news.




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