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Styled in Italy, built in Britain - The story of the blue Ital Van


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#91 OFFLINE   quicksilver

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 09:15 AM

Or even better the 2.0 as briefly offered in the Ital.

I think the vans were only offered with 1.1 and 1.3 A series.

There is this 1.7 pickup about, rebuilt from a wrecked saloon with quite an interesting backstory that featured in the aforementioned mag.

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1978 Morris Marina 1.7 HL pickup by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

And a couple of pickups still working for a living. This one has spent its whole life on a potato farm and took first prize at last year's FOTU.

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1981 Morris Marina 575 pickup by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

This one appeared at the FOTU this year covered in brick dust

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1983 Morris Ital 575 pickup by Adam Floyd, on Flickr


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 03:06 PM

Marina vans were excellent; what was a very average car became a great Estate car as well.

 

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 04:24 PM

Ray Doyle memorably used a Marina version, in Teal, in one episode of The Professionals...

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 07:28 PM

Back in the late 80's, a friends mum parked up her old LWB Landie as it was pretty much ruined. She replaced it with a scruffy white Marina van which she christened 'Hetty'. Even then, I don't rememeber them being a common sight on the roads?
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Posted 15 November 2017 - 11:12 PM

Pickups were massively popular upto about 1983 as new shells weren't a lot of money, then simply add one rotten or crashed Marina and register as a new vehicle.
Father DR had one built from an 1800TC that was deadly in the wet with no load in the back.
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 08:21 AM

I love the "Styled in Italy" claim.

Yeah, the first 6 inches of car maybe.

 

Not even that. Ital Design's only input was to take Harris Mann's facelift idea and ready it for production. That's why it has a 'corporate' nose, like the Ambassador. Why Ital Design didn't sue, I've no idea. BL just went along with the myth that the car now had Italian styling!


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 08:58 AM

Seeing that Proffesionals van with slotted wheels, reminded me that 7cwt vans had saloon type wheels but the bigger payload (9cwt ?) and pickups always had solid , slightly wider or at least different offset rims.
Somewhere in the dusty recesses of my brain, I think there's more to it than just wheel design, different axles maybe?
Possibly the reason you see more pickups/vans with alloys or MGB rims than saloons.

Also a mate was given a brand new Ital van as an apprentice sparky for EMEB, we never* towed a 3.0 Capri at up to 80mph from Oswestry to Milton Keynes with wallpaper masking taped over the sign writing .
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 09:31 AM

Early 80s the builder / la la labourer over the road from my folks house used an utterly ruined Marina van, started it with a lolly stick, drove it like he stole it. It lasted longer than most of his other chod


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 09:36 AM

I'm told these share the same rear axle as a MGB, lower ratio so it can tow the heavier weight meaning quicker acceleration but rubbish top end.

I quite like a cool set of wheels for it seeing as all the tyres are shagged but to keep costs down I'm tempted to just get a set of part worns fitted instead.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 09:47 AM

A bit of googling reveals that the 10cwt , ie solid wheels does indeed have an MGB axle. Which means it has a different PCD , 4.5" instead of 3.75" of 7cwt and all saloons, coupes,estates.

This must be true, the info came from MrBollox on an old Blue Forum thread.
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 09:49 AM

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 09:57 AM

Hopefully this scan from a 1979 brochure will answer the wheel/axle questions:

 

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 12:55 PM

I'm told these share the same rear axle as a MGB, lower ratio so it can tow the heavier weight meaning quicker acceleration but rubbish top end.

I quite like a cool set of wheels for it seeing as all the tyres are shagged but to keep costs down I'm tempted to just get a set of part worns fitted instead.

 

Wire wheels it is then!


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 01:56 PM

Royal Mail it.....

 

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 02:55 PM

I'm told these share the same rear axle as a MGB, lower ratio so it can tow the heavier weight meaning quicker acceleration but rubbish top end.

I quite like a cool set of wheels for it seeing as all the tyres are shagged but to keep costs down I'm tempted to just get a set of part worns fitted instead.

 

Ebay Gumtree MongSwapz is full of wheel/tyre combos of ROstyles and stuff

Rather than shod those old rims, buy a good set of the lot

 

 

 

Otherwise, knock-on wires will need knocked-off hubs, as they are quite expensive


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 03:04 PM

I've been offered a set of MGB Rostyles with good tyres and chrome trims for £100 but I don't think they will suit it.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 03:07 PM

Original wheels for me. If i win the lottery i will buy this if and when you sell.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 03:15 PM

I've been offered a set of MGB Rostyles with good tyres and chrome trims for £100 but I don't think they will suit it.

 

Nor do I, what with the side exit exhaust, twin-carb trumpets standing tall through the bonnet, and ZZ-Top style graphics.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 03:22 PM

Have no pics but a mate of my dad's was a Hotpoint service engineer fixing washing machines, fridge-freezers, etc. Around 1980/81 he was allocated an Ital van in the new early-80s Hotpoint-livery chocolate-brown and beige!
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 03:26 PM

AS Colours

 

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 03:31 PM

I like that 'vanne. Check out the sales display in that travel-shop window.

I could be wrong but I think Hotpoint-brown was a darker brown for their vans. That sort of early 80s plasticky dark brown still seen today on some vintage cooker-hoods and double-glazing surrounds.
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 04:06 PM

I have already commented on this thread. but i feel i need to again.  I LOVE this van.  I will be eagerly awaiting updates and a for sale thread.  :)


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 04:19 PM

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 04:27 PM

Around 1980/81 he was allocated an Ital van in the new early-80s Hotpoint-livery chocolate-brown and beige!
I've had a quick look on t'net for period Hotpoint van livery pics and not found any yet.

 
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 04:39 PM

 

That van used to deliver my post back in the 1980's! It was 'stationed' at my local P.O.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 04:45 PM

If you did paint it red (or black even), Trig, then ideal* opportunity to fit that set of Rover BRM leather rent boy seats you've always wanted.

 

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Well, ok.  What I've always wanted.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:30 PM

I've been offered a set of MGB Rostyles with good tyres and chrome trims for £100 but I don't think they will suit it.

 

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Yes, too Seventies - needs a proper Marina. 

 

Ital does not have the extra brightwork to carry it off.  Ital is all SinclairResearch-esque black plastics


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:44 PM

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Yes, too Seventies - needs a proper Marina. 

 

Ital does not have the extra brightwork to carry it off.  Ital is all SinclairResearch-esque black plastics

 

We're trying to find somewhere to rent in UK over Xmas - this would do for me!


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:49 PM

Found one of your yearning postings from 7 years ago

 

http://autoshite.com...a-van/?p=128728

 

Destiny.

 

 

I reckon Superlites would be more fitting on an Ital.  Because Eighties cusp.

 

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 08:17 PM

Ital design alloys for an ital?
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They're a bit too 80s and no doubt not made in a suitable fitment spec.;
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