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#1351 OFFLINE   billyboy406v6

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 12:55 PM

Not enough heat, flames and smoke ?

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#1352 OFFLINE   dollywobbler

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 01:37 PM

A new dizzy shouldn't be hard to get. Engine is the same as the Haflinger.

Sure enough, the dizzy on the spares car is not keen to move. The engine cover is damaged on that car, so it's got damp in there as well as just not being touched for 17 years or so.

So, I had a go at brakes. Infuriatingly, the hub gets in the way of the wheel cylinder, but that was overcome and I eventually got it fitted. But can I get the drums back on? No. The springs are little fuckers and have reminded me just how much I hate drum brakes.

You can't assemble the pair and fit, because the hub gets in the way. I can't see any way to remove that, as it seems to be part of the driveshaft. So you have to struggle to fit the shoes with the springs in place first. Got one shoe fitted and then the top spring fell off. Walked away.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 02:02 PM

Technique. You need the knack...

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 05:03 PM

AAAARGH! Things have not improved. FINALLY got the shoes back on, only to discover that I'd fitted the wheel cylinder the wrong way around, which means the shoes just will not centralise, so you can't get the drum back on. I was sure I'd checked it...

 

So, everything had to come back off again. Swapped it around, but then the brake pipe wouldn't tighten...

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FFS! That's it. No more tinkering this week.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 06:05 PM

I sympathise DW. There are always days you'd wished you'd given it to the professionals. Come back to it with fresh impetus after a couple of days.

As a series LR botherer, I'm used to the annoyance of drum brakes. Wouldn't mind a picture if the set up on these. Might be able to offer some pointers. Is the cylinder at the top?
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Posted 10 January 2018 - 06:31 PM

No, cylinder at the bottom. I have walked away from it and have no plans to return until next week (as I'm mostly away).

 

Here's the previous f*ck up.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 07:04 PM

Speaking to someone today who has apparently some experience with these little blue buggars, apparently it wasn't unknown for them to be "mistimed" from the factory as the full 20bhp was deemed to be too much in some cases.  So not unknown for them to be poorly tuned as a very crude form of governing engine power.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 07:08 PM

Speaking to someone today who has apparently some experience with these little blue buggars, apparently it wasn't unknown for them to be "mistimed" from the factory as the full 20bhp was deemed to be too much in some cases.  So not unknown for them to be poorly tuned as a very crude form of governing engine power.

 

That was my thinking. I'd heard that they were restricted, but didn't know how. Presumably it'd actually start and run fine if it was generally in better health.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 07:29 PM

I'd guess so - probably just that one thing too many for your one to start at that moment!

 

Having now encountered just how much they don't weigh, I imagine 20-ish bhp would be verging on terrifying!  The home-built tractor/go-kart we had on the farm was nigh on as heavy, and it felt plenty fast (and was quite capable of drifting in the yard) with half that power...


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 08:21 PM

I'd guess so - probably just that one thing too many for your one to start at that moment!

 

Having now encountered just how much they don't weigh, I imagine 20-ish bhp would be verging on terrifying!  The home-built tractor/go-kart we had on the farm was nigh on as heavy, and it felt plenty fast (and was quite capable of drifting in the yard) with half that power...

 

 

Does anyone know if their is a turbo which will fit this engine? :D 


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 08:28 PM

I might have some thick cork seal that was used in the 70s to make rocker cover gaskets I could post to you if you think it'd be any use

I think the way they did it was to put on on as a sheet then tap round the edge with a hammer to cut it to the exact shape
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Posted 10 January 2018 - 09:23 PM

I'll leave this here.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 09:34 PM

 

I'm hoping to spend a lot less than £2k making this one work again...


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 09:35 PM

I might have some thick cork seal that was used in the 70s to make rocker cover gaskets I could post to you if you think it'd be any use

I think the way they did it was to put on on as a sheet then tap round the edge with a hammer to cut it to the exact shape

 

Thanks, but the rocker covers seem ok. They're rubber, and I imagine I can buy new ones easily enough.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 11:14 PM

Actually read the manual and...

 

...it simply says undo pinch bolt and the dizzy should come out. Oh if only! Anyway, I shall do other things for a few days. Mostly involving driving the Lexus around the Midlands.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 11:45 PM

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 11:47 PM

Now:

 

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Has anything in Portsmouth changed since the early 80's?

A quick flick on google street view shows that U-Need-Us is still going strong and the fountain that was filled with soap power every Saturday is still in place.


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Posted 12 January 2018 - 01:04 PM

Thread hyjack with a Perodua Nippa exhaust tangent.

 

Hi,

 

As 50% of the Perodua Nippa cadre of AS do you have a source of front exhaust sections, sometimes known as PER1002, I know you changed the rear section ?



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Posted 12 January 2018 - 01:28 PM

 the fountain that was filled with soap power every Saturday is still in place.

I have never done this.  Well, not powder anyway.

 

The main difference with Portsmouth now is that you're no longer greeted by the Tricorn centre as you come off the bottom of the M275.  You have, however, had to drive a little slower to get there, as the junction that was part-built at Tipner for years has now been finished, and it's too close to everything else to allow the 70MPH limit, so it's all 60 now.


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Posted 12 January 2018 - 05:30 PM

Thread hyjack with a Perodua Nippa exhaust tangent.

Hi,

As 50% of the Perodua Nippa cadre of AS do you have a source of front exhaust sections, sometimes known as PER1002, I know you changed the rear section ?


I just scored a system via eBay. Daihatsu Mira should be the same.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 11:11 PM

The main difference with Portsmouth now is that you're no longer greeted by the Tricorn centre as you come off the bottom of the M275. s has now been finished, and it's too close to everything else to allow the 70MPH limit, so it's all 60 now.


And Harry Pounds tat is gone :(

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 12:26 PM

Dollywobbler, I have something very important to tell you:
 
I blame you.
 
That is all...


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Posted 15 January 2018 - 12:41 PM

Dollywobbler, I have something very important to tell you:
 
I blame you.
 
That is all...

 

Well that is also mysterious, and potentially amusing. Spill the beans!


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Posted 15 January 2018 - 12:53 PM

I'll give you a clue.  Tidying of the garage has commenced.


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Posted 15 January 2018 - 01:20 PM

Tidying is the future! I'm going to attempt to make a tool board for mine this afternoon. I'm utterly sick of constantly hunting around for sockets and spanners. In hindsight, just chucking them all in a big tool bag was a stupid idea.


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Posted 15 January 2018 - 02:03 PM

Mine has basically been a huge dumping grounds since the day we moved in.  I was just about to start sorting it out when I at near zero notice had to clear all my stuff from my parents place - which was unceremoniously dumped in there.  I've wanted to get it sorted out for at least the last two years, but kept failing to summon the willpower to actually do it.

 

However now thanks to you *points accusingly* I'm actually going to need the garage...so it's finally getting sorted out.

 

There's a chronic lack of shelving etc which I'll also need to address at some point, as otherwise the lack of places to put stuff is going to drive me mad in short order.


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Posted 15 January 2018 - 08:16 PM

After a few days away from the garage, enthusiasm levels are rising again. 

 

I now have a brake pipe flaring kit, and am hopeful that I haven't utterly ruined the new wheel cylinder. That's tomorrow's job. I'll also give the distributor in the spares car another soak in penetrating oil (I'm running out, have also soaked it in ATF) though it shows no signs of moving yet. So, I may move on to checking the static timing of THAT engine to see if it's anywhere close. I know it turns. If it seems likely, I need to rob some bits from the knackered engine to investigate whether it'll run. All this may get delayed by the weather as snow is forecast overnight...

 

If that scuppers plans, then I'll just crack on with brakes.


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Posted 15 January 2018 - 08:30 PM

Dollywobbler, I have something very important to tell you:

I blame you.

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 08:32 PM

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 09:13 PM

Does anyone know if their is a turbo which will fit this engine? :D

 

The Japs have lots of 600 cc 3 cylinder cars with Turbo's and then there's the GPz750 Turbo







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