dollywobbler Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 I tried engaging gear before the gearbox had stopped spinning. It's very hard to know whether the internals have stopped or not, which is why with DAFs, they recommend starting them 'in gear' so to speak. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 throughly enjoyed this video of an invacar going round in circles far more then I had any right to its pretty cool to see some external shots of TWC in motion, even if you couldn't quite manage a full doughnut this time, I appreciate the effort (if you mouse over the time bar for a preview it looks like one of those fast forwarded benny hill type clips ) BTW I noticed in your latest fox post the Model 70 manual in shot was that sent in with the fox stuff or is that the manual you have had since the start? Burnside and SierraMikeHotel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 Thanks. Manual was sent to me by my pal in the Reliant Owners' Club. He found it in a stash of parts he had bought. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Oh very cool thats nice of him it would be interesting to see if it differs in any way from the manual you already have on hand (and of the PDF scan of one I have from Zel) edit: I noticed it says "drivers handbook" was this something else handed out to anyone who got issued an invacar or is that what the Manual does say on the front? iv never actually seen a model 70 Manual of any kind apart from the PDF scan i have so I dont actually know what to look for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 I think it's the same manual. All very high-level about how to drive one. Naturally, not much on looking after one, because you didn't have to do that. "It is not recommended to exceed 50mph." Oops... LightBulbFun, Burnside and egg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Looks like all three wheels were engaging the brakes initially at the same rate; without enough snap torque with all three locked then break the rears to spin I think the best you could hope for would be uncontrolled skid or drive-in-circles Either way amusing --Phil LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Not recommended is great choice of words, not actually Forbidden! LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I think it's the same manual. All very high-level about how to drive one. Naturally, not much on looking after one, because you didn't have to do that. "It is not recommended to exceed 50mph." Oops... interesting, the manual PDF I have seems to be more a "workshop manual" then an "owners manual" and it goes into a lot of detail about servicing everything, but does not really go into how to actually drive one (im pretty sure the engine section is directly from/written by steyr puch ) for example I somehow I doubt they expected the disabled users to be able to such things like remove the engine/transmission heres a link to the PDF on Zels website http://loz.zelandeth.org/cars/ac-model-70/Invacar_Manual.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 Ah yes. I have that manual in PDF form. I have seen this driver's manual online before as well, I just can't recall where. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandeth Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Heads up DW, you have a package of a couple of things for TWC in the post. Thought I'd sent it about a month ago until I found the box this morning! LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 Oh, thank you! It'll probably arrive tomorrow. When I'll be in Buckinghamshire... (sod's law!) I did have a run out in TWC today, because the weather was just beautiful. It was seriously warm and very pleasant indeed. On the flat and downhill, she's an absolute riot. Uphill, still just painful. Still, hopefully I can do something about that next month. I need to get the Fox finished (or at least roadworthy) and then TWC is due another session in the garage. Full service, new pulleys and belts, new transmission fluid etc. RayMK, Coprolalia, RobT and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandeth Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Sadly can't really offer any hill comparison yet... I've driven up the one through our neighborhood a few times and don't recall noticing any real difference to on the level...though it's not massively steep really and is a 30mph zone so I was hardly flat out anyway... LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 You guys with your horsepower. Just think what uphill life would be like in a Villiers Was a lovely day though. dollywobbler, Eddie Honda, GrumpiusMaximus and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 Sadly can't really offer any hill comparison yet... I've driven up the one through our neighborhood a few times and don't recall noticing any real difference to on the level...though it's not massively steep really and is a 30mph zone so I was hardly flat out anyway... TWC seems to have got worse. Bit annoyed I haven't got to the bottom of it yet, not that I've had a great deal of time to investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 TWC seems to have got worse. Bit annoyed I haven't got to the bottom of it yet, not that I've had a great deal of time to investigate. gotten worse? its not the brakes sizing up again is it? I wonder if its worth pointing a camera at the belts system then going for a hilly drive, then watching back the footage so you can observe whats going on exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 gotten worse? A He said "got".B You're not American.C Have an internet dry slap for that and stop it. skoda_fan, Remspoor, Scruffy Bodger and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraMikeHotel Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Actually gotten is correct English in that context. But please let's not go around this loop again... GrumpiusMaximus and LightBulbFun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I hear "gotten" more from people in the UK. DW, just for a riot, have you tried running it with the silencer removed, straight pipes? I would think any restriction, minor or otherwise would have a significant impact upon engine efficacy. It would at least rule out a coked-up exhaust system. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Got some news for DW while speaking to Stuart he told me that TWC725K is actually the oldest known surviving Invacar made Model 70 how cool is that (with TWC725K being the 3rd oldest overall, with GPG721K being the oldest and KPK888K being the second oldest, but those are both ACs) on this note I think it would be fitting to repair TWCs original engine and reinstall that at some point adw1977 and egg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Oh wow. That's quite something! Thanks for your digging. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 There has been some mutual trim swappage this week. Now TWC has trims! I also took the opportunity to adjust the belt tension so it's more like TPA. This appears to have made sod all difference to anything other than making the drive take up more snatchy. Oh well. Have also ordered up some service items as she's getting on for her annual service! She can sod off if she thinks she's going to get the regular attention she would have had in service. egg, MorrisItalSLX, RayMK and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 There has been some mutual trim swappage this week. Now TWC has trims! I also took the opportunity to adjust the belt tension so it's more like TPA. This appears to have made sod all difference to anything other than making the drive take up more snatchy. Oh well. Have also ordered up some service items as she's getting on for her annual service! She can sod off if she thinks she's going to get the regular attention she would have had in service. OMG! who are you and what have you done with the Real DW? at this rate you will be fitting new head lamp trim rings and glueing back that small bit of body work that broke off when she fell off the jack stands looking pretty good to me I love how they matching patina with the rest of TWC (its amazing how much more period and "normal" the hub caps make her look all of sudden #stealthinvacar ) we are going to need some new exterior shots of her in motion now egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozeydustman Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 It's amazing how something as simple as a set of nave plates can transform the look of a car. During the 80's there were a couple of local older chaps who had model 70's; I seem to remember they always jolted a little when they pulled away, as if they'd let in the clutch too quickly. Wondering if that's just the way they are? LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 It's amazing how something as simple as a set of nave plates can transform the look of a car. During the 80's there were a couple of local older chaps who had model 70's; I seem to remember they always jolted a little when they pulled away, as if they'd let in the clutch too quickly. Wondering if that's just the way they are? I think thats because technically they would be "letting the clutch in" too quickly, since its a centrifugal clutch I imagine if you from idle at a stop suddenly when full throttle as these where seemingly driven, the clutch would probably fly out quite suddenly with the engine already going at some revs so the rest of the drive system would jerk into motion... (and also any slack being taken up in the drive belt probably wont help either) well thats my theory at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 meanwhile somewhere in wales... (if I had any sort of photoshop skills id change ivan to TWC, but i dont LOL) Craig the Princess, Rocket88, Dick Longbridge and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 Used the Invacar for today's post run. Not sure if it's the weather or my recent adjustment of the belts, but by heck she was flying today! There's a hill just outside the village that she usually grudgingly crawls up at 25-30mph that she galloped up at 40 today, and she topped 60 several times. Still not perfect, but definitely better. Sadly, I think the belts are a bit too loose, as she chunters on hill starts. May need a subtle tweak. Was a lovely day for it. N Dentressangle, LightBulbFun, PhilA and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozeydustman Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 What a lovely view that is, Ian. I can see why you moved there. mrbenn and LightBulbFun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Mmm more Scenic invacar, glad to hear she is running nicely, will be interesting to see if it holds with the recent pass for the Skoda, im guessing its TWCs turn next? will be very interesting to see how she has faired over the year since her first MOT in 15 years BTW is it me or does that hub cap stick out just a little too far or is it the rusty wheel giving that effect? mrbenn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 Just an odd effect.EDIT now with correct video! Fun times! Fat_Pirate, RayMK, N Dentressangle and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Oooh video action! enjoyed that very much, Camera angle worked very well for capturing all the controls/dials in action and the road ahead did you give her a hose down after a visit to the beach due to all the salt? the transmission comment does make my wonder, what IS under the plate on the gearbox with the Big AC Logo on it? (also on that note have you checked all the gearbox/diff/chain case fluids/whatnot?) BTW that ptschoo at the end was the first time you managed to capture the fading text on the badge successfully on camera I think mrbenn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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