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#2671 OFFLINE   dozeydustman

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 05:56 PM

Bye-bye TP. Is Zel having her?


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 07:53 PM

I have found TP's replacement. Another car collection caper. This time from The Netherlands.


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#2673 ONLINE   dollywobbler

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:30 PM

Bye-bye TP. Is Zel having her?

 

I'll let him confirm or deny, but here's the point where I thought "this isn't going to work!"

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Happily, I was wrong.


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#2674 OFFLINE   Zelandeth

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 10:39 PM

Aye, have just updated my thread.

 

I also had my doubts up to the point where we both tried lifting the back, at which point it was pretty obvious that it should be possible.

 

It was more just *awkward* than actually difficult.

 

Though I will vouch for the fact that DW is stronger than he looks.  I am not.

 

She's about as perfect a match to my KPL as I could have wished for to be honest - it's very much a case of the perfect candidate to make one good one out of the two with relatively little in the way of leftovers.

 

Looking forward to getting these two to meet up again!

 

Bet she never thought she'd be getting another shot at being made roadworthy again when she was dropped in that field...or when she was donating bits to get TWC on the road...

 

Meant to say at the time DW, I'm not camera shy or afraid of my face appearing online, so you're welcome to do what you wish with any of the snaps etc from the day.  I'll send you copies of everything I got as well if you want.


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:47 AM

I'll let him confirm or deny, but here's the point where I thought "this isn't going to work!"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgPfEakXkAUc...

 

Happily, I was wrong.

You need to Knight Rider this. Role out of the back of the moving Transit on the motorway. 


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#2676 OFFLINE   Zelandeth

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 08:12 AM

You need to Knight Rider this. Role out of the back of the moving Transit on the motorway.


...and to think, I spent several hours specifically trying to make sure that *didn't* happen...Guess I missed a trick...
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#2677 ONLINE   dollywobbler

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 01:31 PM

There is a problem.

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So I took it off.

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Pretty sure that's not going to be ideal! Silencers are not available new. Given it's summer, I'm tempted to try and get a custom non-heater exhaust made up for it. 

 

Incidentally, with it idling in its usual lumpy manner, I was able to confirm that the right cylinder is not firing consistently at idle. A much stronger chug out of the nearside pipe. I am a little concerned, because on a test run this morning, TWC did feel slightly down on power. She is terrible at climbing hills - far worse than the 2CV, despite being over 200kg lighter, with only 9bhp less. How long until Festival of the Unexceptional again?!


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 01:37 PM

DgPfEakXkAUc80s.jpg

 

...I will vouch for the fact that DW is stronger than he looks.  I am not.

 

Lightweights, both of you.  Mrs Hubnut would've tossed that in the back of the van one-handed while weeding the garden, making jam AND feeding George the cat...

 

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 01:39 PM

The exhaust would be an easy repair with a new section. Id love to assist but distance is not your friend. if you do get a stainless one made. Send me that in the post and ill repair it for thee foc. Regards the running issue, sometimes its best just to get a second opinion. Ive had months of issues with my subaru mv. Just paid a guy £30. he was on it an hour and its purring like a good un. I know your location may make this difficult to find the specialists but sometimes its best just to hand it over for a couple of hours labour. Its finding someone recommended. ..

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 01:42 PM

The exhaust would be an easy repair with a new section. Id love to assist but distance is not your friend. if you do get a stainless one made. Send me that in the post and ill repair it for thee foc. Regards the running issue, sometimes its best just to get a second opinion. Ive had months of issues with my subaru mv. Just paid a guy £30. he was on it an hour and its purring like a good un. I know your location may make this difficult to find the specialists but sometimes its best just to hand it over for a couple of hours labour. Its finding someone recommended. ..

 

Yes, location is a pain in the arse. The exhaust is quite complex, as it contains a heat exchanger. The whole thing is pretty rusty, and getting soft in quite a few places. I'm wondering about just getting a custom exhaust made up. Needs two entry points and a centre exit.


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 02:07 PM

Straight pipes.  Wear a coat.

 

HTH.


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 02:36 PM

Straight pipes.  Wear a cloak.

 

HTH.

 

FTFY.


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 02:51 PM

Cherry Bomb :D 


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 03:27 PM

Cherry Bombs :D


FTFY.

Like this:

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 09:27 PM

With regards to the one side doing more at idle...

Check the simple stuff before panicking. Methodical analysis is needed.

[] Distributor cap. Whip it off and check it's clean.
[] If possible (can't remember if it is) rotate it through 180 degrees, swap the leads over and see if the issue switches sides.
[] As above with plugs.

If that's inconclusive...

[] Check valve clearances.
[] Compression test - maybe do this first as I imagine doing the valve clearances is a royal faff with the engine in situ.

If there's an issue identified there, get a head gasket set in, pull a head off your spare engine, get that tidied up in advance and swap them over.

With such a low mileage on it I doubt it's likely to be anything more sinister than a dodgy head gasket or coked up valve seat.

Or it might be nothing at all and they just idle a bit lumpy...reckon mine is similar to be fair.
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Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:03 PM

They have head gaskets? The problem cylinder is the one I thought might have had a sticky valve some time back. Or maybe that was the original engine. I've lost track now.
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Posted 22 June 2018 - 11:07 PM

There will be a head gasket - but it's purely to keep compression in the cylinder really - and if it's gone the most likely symptom you'll see is low compression.

It's obviously a far simpler gasket than on a water cooled car.

Cue someone chiming in and telling me there's no gasket...I confess to not reading the manual before typing this.
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Posted Yesterday, 06:04 AM

That chuffing noise from one cylinder (without exhaust) suggests exhaust valve to me. VW engines get a distinctive chuffiness about their tickover when their exhaust valves aren't sealing right. (Usually cylinder 3 is the first to fail because it runs hotter)

If the cylinder to barrel seal ("head gasket") is blowing it makes little or no noise at tickover and a right din on full throttle.

I would have the heads off and have a look. Dropped valves make a real mess of things.

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Posted Yesterday, 06:42 AM

Hmm. Time might be against me here. Actual spare time between now and FOTU is in short supply. I have had an engine drop a valve though, so am aware of the mess they make. Especially when your wife drives in ten miles afterwards...

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