MrDuke Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 As a completely random aside, in The Bridge, Iain Banks spends rather a lot of time explaining in detail fantasising about how the main character he'd customise a Mk2 (I think) Jag, which then gets destroyed on the titular structure. Actually, that's kind of a spoiler. Sorry, as you were..... chaseracer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felly Magic Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Jay is officially the head of the more money than brains club, and he won't touch anything Ward builds, because he can tell from 500 yards they aren't up to scratch, and his own workshop can build better for much cheaper, Ward is a slick salesman that is a certainty, but what he produces is frankly poor in execution, his addiction to the LS engine is so severe it is unreal, it's not the best engine by a long shot, it's cheap, which is why he uses it so often. A far better subject for a crass hot rod would have been a Bentley, as they were much more caddish cars with a sporting flavour. His client base will vanish unless he actually moves with the times, but he seems to be stuck in a loop, there is a finite number of people who will buy stuff like this, so eventually he will end up going bang,he has a huge stockpile of cars in his yard, which to all intents and purposes is dead money, because a customer has to want that specific car, which he will no doubt lean on potential clients to buy, and as the cars just sit outside in the open, they are just going to deteriorate further, meaning much more work. For wealthy folk on the west coast of America, where the internal combustion engine is rapidly becoming the enemy, he really could do with looking at electric propulsion, buying up crashed Teslas could be a viable option, even the idiot Brewer and the tall not mechanic electrified a Maserati for not a lot of dollars really, and electric powered VWs are big business in California now too. I don't think Ward is thinking towards the future, just the 'here & now', and how to exploit the rich and stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clanger Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Does it help that Icon has already done an electric VW? http://www.icon4x4.com/derelict/pastprojects/33 I get that the car wasn't to your taste, fair enough, I liked it, as did some others but, it would be odd if we all liked the same thing. The LS is a very popular engine swap because it is plentiful, relatively cheap, reliable, the aftermarket support is huge, it's easy to upgrade and the bolt on performance goodies are everywhere. It has been referred to as the modern equivalent of the SBC - I like the LS and I have a plan to get hold of one at some point and maybe swap it into my 1994 Wrangler... or not. I don't know that the cars left outside will deteriorate as quickly as if they were left outside in the UK - the shop is based in Van Nuys where the weather is pretty dry year round - I mean, it's October 24 today and it was 103 where I am FFS. I am willing to bet it hit well over 110 where Icon is located. I did get the impression that Ward was less of a builder and, more of a "concept"/sales guy. I understand that you didn't like the Rolls but, to each their own... Junkman, cort1977, flat4alfa and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggers Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Jay is officially the head of the more money than brains club, and he won't touch anything Ward builds, because he can tell from 500 yards they aren't up to scratch, and his own workshop can build better for much cheaper, Ward is a slick salesman that is a certainty, but what he produces is frankly poor in execution, his addiction to the LS engine is so severe it is unreal, it's not the best engine by a long shot, it's cheap, which is why he uses it so often. A far better subject for a crass hot rod would have been a Bentley, as they were much more caddish cars with a sporting flavour. His client base will vanish unless he actually moves with the times, but he seems to be stuck in a loop, there is a finite number of people who will buy stuff like this, so eventually he will end up going bang,he has a huge stockpile of cars in his yard, which to all intents and purposes is dead money, because a customer has to want that specific car, which he will no doubt lean on potential clients to buy, and as the cars just sit outside in the open, they are just going to deteriorate further, meaning much more work. For wealthy folk on the west coast of America, where the internal combustion engine is rapidly becoming the enemy, he really could do with looking at electric propulsion, buying up crashed Teslas could be a viable option, even the idiot Brewer and the tall not mechanic electrified a Maserati for not a lot of dollars really, and electric powered VWs are big business in California now too. I don't think Ward is thinking towards the future, just the 'here & now', and how to exploit the rich and stupid. At least you’re not bitter about it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk cort1977, mk2_craig, The Reverend Bluejeans and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Am I the only person reading this who really doesn't give a fuck? danthecapriman, Clanger, The Reverend Bluejeans and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 No. r.welfare and Junkman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidel_Kakao Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Am I the only person reading this who really doesn't give a fuck?Nope me too, I don't see how anyone could sustain such anger about something that doesn't personally affect them. It's almost like Mr Ward has crossed the pond and directly pissed on Mr Magics chips. Junkman, trigger, alcyonecorporation and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangeangel Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 exploit the rich and stupid. Sounds like nice work if you can get it! Junkman, The Reverend Bluejeans, flat4alfa and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 To be fair, there is only one of those. And it looks rather better in the metal, I have to say. I'll stick to chrome bumpers though thanks. CMC are actually making these for others. Callum - whilst styling some decent cars (DB9, original XF) - has made a royal balls of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 CMC are actually making these for others. Callum - whilst styling some decent cars (DB9, original XF) - has made a royal balls of this. They offered to build more. Not sure if they actually have. They're better off sticking to straight-up restos though. The skills that place has are insane. chaseracer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex V6 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I like it although I have to say the boy himself comes across as a bit of a bellend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Suspect, not for the first time, that the OP is totally off his rocker batshit and all his opinions are null and void cms206, Mr Lobster, trigger and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 They're better off sticking to straight-up restos though. The skills that place has are insane. Yep. My eight digit lottery win would fund a Tudor white pre HE XJ-S with red leather. Built from a rust free US import, it'd have a 6.0 V12, 5 speed manual and all the suspension/brake upgrades yet retaining the Kent wheels and the original refinement. It'd probably cost £150'000+ but I wouldn't give a shit. It'd be the perfect car. dollywobbler and richardthestag 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyramrod Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Am I the only person reading this who really doesn't give a fuck?No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I can only deduce that, at some point in an alternative universe, Mr Ward nicked Mr Magic's dinner money. Junkman, Heidel_Kakao, Exiled_Tat_Gatherer and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat4alfa Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 What a ridiculous country, to ban cruise control but not that. I did not know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat4alfa Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Its the Silver Spirit, rollered black, with a Cummins 6BT and vertical exhaust stack protruding through the bonnet that does it for me. T'is a Bentley that one Creaming moment at 0:32 I wonder if this effort will anger in equal measure though. It is a home-brew Blighty effort from Harrogate way Junkman, chaseracer and dollywobbler 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveDorson Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Could be worse. Much, much worse. Some grovelling Jaguar specialist is now turning this shit out: My mates in Kings Cliffe make the wheels for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 If you (we) don't understand this sort of thing then perhaps live in the US and/or Aus for a bit to come around to the mindset. Alternatively, just don't tune into TV programmes like this. Problem solved. mk2_craig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Could be worse. Much, much worse. Some grovelling Jaguar specialist is now turning this shit out: What else do you want to do with these shit heaps?Apart from ovaling them? chaseracer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colnerov Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Jay is officially the head of the more money than brains club, and he won't touch anything Ward builds, because he can tell from 500 yards they aren't up to scratch, and his own workshop can build better for much cheaper, Ward is a slick salesman that is a certainty, but what he produces is frankly poor in execution, his addiction to the LS engine is so severe it is unreal, it's not the best engine by a long shot, it's cheap, which is why he uses it so often. A far better subject for a crass hot rod would have been a Bentley, as they were much more caddish cars with a sporting flavour. His client base will vanish unless he actually moves with the times, but he seems to be stuck in a loop, there is a finite number of people who will buy stuff like this, so eventually he will end up going bang,he has a huge stockpile of cars in his yard, which to all intents and purposes is dead money, because a customer has to want that specific car, which he will no doubt lean on potential clients to buy, and as the cars just sit outside in the open, they are just going to deteriorate further, meaning much more work. For wealthy folk on the west coast of America, where the internal combustion engine is rapidly becoming the enemy, he really could do with looking at electric propulsion, buying up crashed Teslas could be a viable option, even the idiot Brewer and the tall not mechanic electrified a Maserati for not a lot of dollars really, and electric powered VWs are big business in California now too. I don't think Ward is thinking towards the future, just the 'here & now', and how to exploit the rich and stupid. Hi, Broadly speaking, you've just described how Rolls Royce was at the start. Rolls was the slick saleman and Royce was the perfection led engineer. Colin djimbob and The Reverend Bluejeans 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HH-R Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Top rants, I haven't a scooby doo what this thread is about but A+++ WOULD READ AGAIN. I may Google chin-o ward tosspot silver cloud and see what comes up, when I get a minute. I burst out laughing at this! Banger Kenny, Cheggers, Junkman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 What else do you want to do with these shit heaps?Apart from ovaling them? I don't mind a nice Mark II, Warwick grey 3.4 m/od on steels with red leather. S Type less Morse, Mark I is very pretty. But I hate they way they are fawned over as a 'lovely old British classic'. As new cars they were badly made tosh - the 300SE Heckflosse is a better idea, and far cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lobster Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Friggin nora. Anyway, the car. I like it. Banger Kenny and alcyonecorporation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I don't mind a nice Mark II, Warwick grey 3.4 m/od on steels with red leather. S Type less Morse, Mark I is very pretty. But I hate they way they are fawned over as a 'lovely old British classic'. As new cars they were badly made tosh - the 300SE Heckflosse is a better idea, and far cooler. Back in the day, they were cheap for what they were, so no wonder they weren't as hardy as a Merc. I'm an S-Type man myself though, just because I'm drawn to stuff that looks odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I genuinely have only read one or two posts on this thread and have no friggin idea what's going on but can we just agree that some people are cunts or something and get back to posting pictures of old Citroëns. Autoshite is a load of shitposting, cunningly disguised as a bunch of blokes posting pictures ot Talbot Solaras. The Moog, Cheggers, mk2_craig and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidel_Kakao Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just for Felly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just for shits'n'giggles, how about the ICON Cloud with the Cummins 6BT out of the ex-Turbo R...? WOOD. mk2_craig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 What a fuss about nothing. Silver Clouds are hardly fugging rare, and are probably quite dire to drive daily in Southern California, or Sydney, or anywhere hot and crowded, in standard form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New POD Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 The design brief on that Rolls Royce was for the vehicle to annoy the Rolls Royce Classic Club people. You know when people on the telly say "It's the Rolls-Royce of...........Insert name of any object....." I always laugh and see the irony. The person on the TV has just perpetuated the myth, that comes with the brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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