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#1 ONLINE   HMC

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 04:26 PM

My attempt at living a shite free life has failed. Trawling e bay/ gumtree again etc but I thought I'd put out a wanted ad here. I've been browsing the for sale threads, but is there anything your thinking of moving on and would like to keep in the fold and have a hassle free sale? I'd consider anything but something fundamentally ok with a bit of MOT would be great. There is a bit of a strange condition- unusually I'm free this Wednesday and rarely at all other times- so being able to collect during the day this Wednesday would be perfect.
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 05:11 PM

I think PBK has a number of candidates......
Soobaaarooo Legacy for the awd fun
XT600z Tenere for the off road fun
Happy trails....

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 05:12 PM

I do. 


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Posted 08 October 2017 - 05:43 PM

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 09:20 PM

How about the Moog Vel Satis Matteo? It's not old but it's defo chod, and it would fit perfectly into your burgeoning waftoluxbarge fleet. It comes with the Bucketeer 1,000 mile road test five star seal of approval. I could even deliver it to you.
If that's not luxywaftbarge enough for you, I'll have a sumptuous Citroen AX soon that you can borrow whenever you want to sate any wandering chodlust without splaffing any real life cash money.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 07:31 AM

How about the Moog Vel Satis Matteo? It's not old but it's defo chod, and it would fit perfectly into your burgeoning waftoluxbarge fleet. It comes with the Bucketeer 1,000 mile road test five star seal of approval. I could even deliver it to you.
If that's not luxywaftbarge enough for you, I'll have a sumptuous Citroen AX soon that you can borrow whenever you want to sate any wandering chodlust without splaffing any real life cash money.

Man makes sense and it definitely wouldnt cost too much :-) 

 

Would even MOT it for you  


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:58 AM

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:23 PM

Do you need some Bling in your life?


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:22 AM

Many thanks for all the offers I have recieved. In the end I decided to turn it into a quest to find the most useful car for the least money with the longest mot. I came to realise a lot of interesting older stuff is simply worth more than the pittance I wanted to pay. The goal posts shift over time and it's interesting to have trawled through the very bottom of the current used car market. I came to the conclusion a ratty petrol mk3 mondeo would fit the bill well enough, and a grotty, battered 1.8 estate in a non colour with 11 months test is what I plumped for....IMG_2464.PNG
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Collection tomorrow!
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:27 AM

£160 with 11mths mot......jeezus
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:38 AM

Holy shit - it’s completely awful but for that price it’s fucking insane value

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:39 AM

I hate Fords and even I agree that is a good buy. 


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:48 AM

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:58 AM

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 12:56 PM

Bargain!

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 01:11 PM

Good buy!

 

My wife has the estate version, very comfy and easy to drive car. Plenty practical and plenty of of room.

 

Just dont buy one with a 2.0 TDCI engine in, 1.8 pez is probs best.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 02:13 PM

Just dont buy one with a 2.0 TDCI engine in, V6 is probs best.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 02:20 PM

Just dont buy one with a 2.0 TDCI engine in,

Wish I'd known that about 9 months ago.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 02:29 PM

Most 2.0TDCis can be nursed along for 6-12 months and you can pick them up for not much money. If you can get 12k out of it in that time you're then into the realms of free motoring.

 

£160 for an 11-month MOTed example, notwithstanding the 1.8ness of the engine, is ludicrous.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 02:37 PM

Slightly surprised at the lack of love for the 2.0TDCi.  A farmer friend (with typically frugal farmer tendencies) has just conceded it's not worth replacing an injector on his, but only after around 300,000 miles of being used as a general purpose hack.  In fact he liked it so much he's replaced with another; same age but much lower mileage and this time in estate flavour rather than hatchback.



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Posted 10 October 2017 - 02:47 PM

Bargain. I know its a cheap old car but as a seller i would at least have chucked two buckets (wrongun) of water over it before the photos.

 

Just mot check it and it has a clean mot. Failed first at the same garage so it looks to have had some work done. Cant go wrong for the price.



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 07:43 AM

Overall I was pretty happy with this mondeo. It drives really well, but tends to sort of go flat and run out of breath at over 3k revs. On a hunch I decided to remove the intake manifold to see what was left of the swirl flaps.....IMG_2490.JPG IMG_2491.JPG IMG_2492.JPG IMG_2494.JPG

Hmmm! So the metal rod had broken, 2 flaps broken off and missing in action, one wedged/ melted into an intake port and the final one wedged closed over the intake port inlet! Somehow despite having eaten some of its intake system some while back it was still running. I presume basically having 25% restriction on the intake was the issue of it running out of breath over 3k revs?
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 07:51 AM

Not sure if that's a disaster or one lucky save?

Is there any damage down and in there?
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 07:52 AM

Me neither! I mean it runs really well, it just goes a bit flat when you open it up a bit. I wasn't expecting what I found.
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 08:04 AM

Take them out and araldite the holes up or swap for a later one 2003 onwards.
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 08:36 AM

what exactly do the swirl flaps do? or supposed to do?

 

Work chum had issues with one of these a decade ago ish and a chunk of the metal rod ended up in the cylinder and was mashing around.. Fucked the bore up iirc.

 

I would think no harm would come of removing the lot, fix that split at the bottom of the #4 intake, remove rods and flaps, duct tape over the rod holes or areldite the holes up

 

prob find that poor running over 3k is down to weak mixture due to holes and splits in intake. 

 

 

^^ here ya go :D


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 08:39 AM

Take them out and araldite the holes up or swap for a later one 2003 onwards.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 10:08 AM

The holes the spindles sit in I mean.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 12:20 PM

what exactly do the swirl flaps do? or supposed to do?

 

Get this: what they are for is to promote swirl.

 

What that means is basically the level of turbulence in the mixture as it enters the combustion chamber, the swirlier it is the better mixed it is which is GR12 for emissions.

 

I presume a man with a big computer does some gas flow analysis and determines the optimum opening size for the inlet to swirl things up a treat (primarily at the points on the emission test cycle lol) and you fit a flap and bingo you pass emissions. 

 

 

Generally people do not report any change in power or drivability from ditching them, but around 0.0001 kittens will die per kilometer driven as a result of the increased CO emissions.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 12:35 PM

£160 with 11mths mot......jeezus

 

I know, he was robbed blind :)


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