40 years Rolling MOT exemption is Go!

[Junkman]

Yeah I was wondering about that. I guess all this stuff will be clarified before it comes into effect.

 

http://allegro.pl/mercedes-w111-220-rok-1962-i6950789756.html

 

 

Just sayin', like.

[AMC Rebel]

You've got permission now to pop rivet sills on and cake underseal over filler on terminally corroded bits underneath.

You say that as if it's a bad thing.

[AMC Rebel]

Been there, done that got the T-shirt. It's what we did in the olden days.

Me too (allegedly)

[Uncle Jimmy]

Bad move all round; £50 a year to have your motor checked over on a ramp, I get to have a good butchers underneath mine, a poke around the underseal and check the brake pipes/hoses.

I can see this ending badly.

[Junkman]

Bad move all round; £50 a year to have your motor checked over on a ramp, I get to have a good butchers underneath mine, a poke around the underseal and check the brake pipes/hoses.

I can see this ending badly.

 

Worry not. You can fight for having it revoked after Brexit is completed.

 

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex:32014L0045

 

 

Until then it's a EU directive.

[Uncle Jimmy]

I wonder too if traffic cops will be issued with new instructions on pre '78 cars, to take more of an 'interest' in them, could be a nice little earner;

Knackered windscreen wiper, 'that's a £200 fine or your car impounded at £80/day until it's fixed'.

[meggersdog]

Just had a tot up. Over the last year I MOTed 64 vehicles which fall into this category will the government compensate me for this loss of earnings ?

[Uncle Jimmy]

As always Herr Junkerman, you have all of the answers but none of the questions.

[AMC Rebel]

I wonder too if traffic cops will be issued with new instructions on pre '78 cars, to take more of an 'interest' in them, could be a nice little earner;

Knackered windscreen wiper, 'that's a £200 fine or your car impounded at £80/day until it's fixed'.

Considering the amount of illegal numberplates, missing headlights, brake lights etc I see every day I assume Police have given up on most of that old-fashioned on the ground type enforcement. I can't ever remember seeing a cop car whilst driving my AMC

[Eddie Honda]

Bad move all round; £50 a year to have your motor checked over on a ramp, I get to have a good butchers underneath mine, a poke around the underseal and check the brake pipes/hoses.

I can see this ending badly.

Nobody is stopping you spending 50 quid more than a legally bound to.

 

Voluntary MOT.

[atlantean]

MOTs can be overrated, a few years ago a mate and I took a bus for a class V test (that's the car test applied to buses for non commercial use). When we arrived it turns out the rollers were bust/ so it was taken outside, a Tapley meter placed on the floor, tester asked the driver to speed up to 10mph and stop. Result, pass, soley based on the ability to stop from 10mph. No check of hand brake,  balance, free rolling or anything else that we would normally fail on when the rollers were in use.

 

BTW this was a proper VOSA testing station.....

[Eddie Honda]

Until then it's a EU directive.

Well the English love to piss and moan about "EU Directives", but when it comes vehicle testing ones that allow more slack they go hysterical about nuns and kittens.

 

Sheesh.

[AMC Rebel]

Well the English love to piss and moan about "EU Directives", but when it comes vehicle testing ones that allow more slack they go hysterical about nuns and kittens.

 

Sheesh.

Fair point - although reading the link Sierraman posted, it appears to say the historic vehicle provisions are up to each member state, so it looks as if this is a UK initiative hanging off the back of the EU directive

[busmansholiday]

My MIG welder has just burst into tears. It was looking forward to fixing the holes in the floor of the 1971MGB that's been alongside it in the garage for the last 5 years. Now the only reason I have for fixing the holes is to stop my feet getting wet.

[Vin]

Fair point - although reading the link Sierraman posted, it appears to say the historic vehicle provisions are up to each member state, so it looks as if this is a UK initiative hanging off the back of the EU directive

 

Quite...

 

"...(13)  Vehicles of historical interest are supposed to conserve the heritage of the period during which they were constructed, and are considered to be hardly used on public roads. It should be left to Member States to determine the periodicity of roadworthiness testing for such vehicles. It should also be for Member States to regulate roadworthiness testing for other types of specialised vehicles..."

[Junkman]

Yow, I'm so going to conserve the heritage, trust me.

[DSdriver]

Bugger, I didn't see this coming. I wouldn't have sold the frilly back ended DS Safari.

[Dirk Diggler]

This will save you having to export all your rusty 70s shite to Ireland where anything pre 31/12/79 has been exempt for years; you can just use it yourselves

 

There's many beautiful well maintained classics here; there's probably as much rough shite in use but ok

 

Plenty of series 3 landys rebodied as Rangies and Discos (some real, some ringers)

 

Some rough things, but not too many dangerous

[DaveDorson]

Suddenly I'm interested in fixing and returning to standard all my old tat.

[Zelandeth]

I've never owned anything that old (yet), though a mid 70s coach is in the planning stages at present.

 

Personally I'll still want to present my cars for an annual test. The tester has kit to check things I can't (rolling road to do an accurate brake efficiency check for one), and given they've quite often found rust that I've missed.

 

I'd far rather that the 30 year rolling tax exemption would come in...that would be useful for me!

[stephen01]

If you check the substantially altered section

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/644962/vehicles-of-historical-interest-substantial-change-guidance.pdf

you will see they are proposing a 15% power to weight increase limit on cars modified after 1998 more than that and it seems you might not get free tax either if I am reading the DVLA speak correctly, this will also apply to pre 60 cars so that 1959 morris minor with a 1275 engine will need both mot and tax after May 20th 2018 even though it doesn't need it at the moment.

 

that links also talks about  'reconstructed classic vehicle as defined by DVLA' would an engine swap be classed as a  'reconstructed classic vehicle as defined by DVLA' even if it had the same power as original? or would you be okay as long as the new engine was within 15% of the original engine? 

 

A free lunch? I don't think so. 

 

saying all that, Ive got a 1961 herald that's not been on the road since 1984 time to drag it out? 

[SiC]

Hopefully this will also apply to cars I import, i.e. that I can register them without having to MoT them first.

Well I think its tied into being historic class of vehicle. So when you import, can cars go straight to historic tax class?

 

Another thing I think is true is that black and white number plates are now linked to the historic tax class. So its now possible to fit b&w plates onto 40+ yr old cars - but only if they're historic tax class.

[richardthestag]

wont someone please think of the children!!!!

 

1) folk have been bodging cars through MoTs since the MoT was brought in, what the MoT tester doesnt see the MoT tester cannot fail etc

2) I might* - in the past - have resorted to plastering thick gloopy underseal over all manner of potential failure points to get a car through the MoT

3) it is still possible to get a "dodgy" MoT

4) MoT is only an indication to the cars roadworthyness at the moment it is tested - How many of you folk have found rusty holes under the car with months of valid MoT left and done fuck all about it until you had to?

5) MoT rules are often just stupid, there can be no sill whatsoever left behind the plastic cover yet the MoT Pass can still be issued

 

However all of the above is complete bollocks because as a driver you have a legal obligation to ensure the vehicle you are driving is road legal - if it isnt then you could be neck deep in slurry

 

If anything I see the potential for local garage/mechanic businesses to offer classic friendly work, shit I might just get into it myself

 

verdict - rest yer sphincters.

 

 

*irresponsibly

[richardthestag]

MOTs can be overrated, a few years ago a mate and I took a bus for a class V test (that's the car test applied to buses for non commercial use). When we arrived it turns out the rollers were bust/ so it was taken outside, a Tapley meter placed on the floor, tester asked the driver to speed up to 10mph and stop. Result, pass, soley based on the ability to stop from 10mph. No check of hand brake,  balance, free rolling or anything else that we would normally fail on when the rollers were in use.

 

BTW this was a proper VOSA testing station.....

 

same for just about every single permanent 4x4 car

 

sphincters need to be rested on this thread

[richardthestag]

Yow, I'm so going to conserve the heritage, trust me.

 

Road trip to see Marina and Goldies Boutique?

 

http://www.goldies-boutique.eu/mobile/

 

[Pillock]

Will old car prices go up because of the "free ride" - you can just keep driving it until it physically falls apart without an annual £500 weld-a-thon - or will old car prices go down because suddenly there's absolutely no guarantee that a car listed on eBay has had any checks at all?

 

Effectively, will every car be priced as a permanent MOT Pass, or will every car be priced as a potential MOT Fail?

[Lacquer Peel]

I'm glad the Tories are looking out for the masses, relatively affluent people who keep >40 year old cars for a hobby really need a break.

[Pillock]

What is interesting for certain types of enthusiasts, is that the "15% modified" rule or whatever it is (and it seems to change depending on wind direction anyway) overrides the pre-60 rule, so if you've got a 50s car that's modified, it's going to suddenly become liable for MOT next May, whilst a 60s car that isn't modified is going to do the opposite.

[richardthestag]

Will old car prices go up because of the "free ride" - you can just keep driving it until it physically falls apart without an annual £500 weld-a-thon - or will old car prices go down because suddenly there's absolutely no guarantee that a car listed on eBay has had any checks at all?

 

Effectively, will every car be priced as a permanent MOT Pass, or will every car be priced as a potential MOT Fail?

 

more so than ever

 

caveat emptor

[Junkman]

I'm glad the Tories are looking out for the masses, relatively affluent people who keep >40 year old cars for a hobby really need a break.

 

I couldn't possibly agree more.