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#31 OFFLINE   Kiltox

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:04 PM

MOT failure and not roadworthy are different things.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:14 PM

My Cortina is 1977 . It definetly needs someone who's not me to decide it's safe to drive before I put it back on the road .
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I estimate this car needs £3000 maybe £4000 spending on it to get it rite and when this is done it will be wotrth about £1500!!


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:15 PM

If your car failed an MoT, it failed an MoT and can't be driven on the road, is it really that difficult?

 

 

 

Easy there, charm farmer. 

 

I beg to differ. Since MOT tests are only valid for 1 second or whatever and, it is actually roadworthiness that you are penalised for if you car doesn't need an MOT, it strongly suggests that you could light your pipe with your MOT fail sheet and tootle on home regardless. 

 

It could also presumably fail on a lightbulb, you could change the bulb and not do a retest. So an MOT fail would mean diddly squat. 

 

As stated here: 

 

13.The option for owners to submit their vehicles to a voluntary MOT test will remain and they will still, like all vehicle owners, need to ensure that they meet the legal requirement of keeping their vehicle in a roadworthy condition at all time. Currently 8 around 6% of the owners of pre-1960 vehicles submit their vehicles to voluntary testing and we would anticipate that many vehicle owners will service their vehicles regularly.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:23 PM

Mmmm, dunno. This is all a bit pitchfork and burning torch.


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#35 OFFLINE   Kiltox

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:25 PM

My Cortina is 1977 . It definetly needs someone who's not me to decide it's safe to drive before I put it back on the road .


It'll be fine m8
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:29 PM

Mmmm, dunno. This is all a bit pitchfork and burning torch.


Agreed, hence raising the question in the first place..

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:30 PM

They'll probably have outlawed fossil fuels by the time I fix it anyway .
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I estimate this car needs £3000 maybe £4000 spending on it to get it rite and when this is done it will be wotrth about £1500!!


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:32 PM

my Cortina is a 79. its been sat in a garage off road since 2011. in 2019 im off down the garage with a jerry can and a new battery and away for a drive
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:33 PM

I've got a 69 Spitfire in the garage that's been off the road since 2003.
Nice to know I can put some air in the tyres and happily head off down the motorway.

This is of course nonsense. The nearest motorway is about 25 miles away, so there is no risk of getting that far.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:42 PM

I'm celebrating but not letting it all out for fear of coming across as irresponsible. 

 

 

I'm so happy, I could shit.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:50 PM

If the shit was 40 years old you could slap some wheels on it and drive it.


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I estimate this car needs £3000 maybe £4000 spending on it to get it rite and when this is done it will be wotrth about £1500!!


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:54 PM

You could still be prosecuted for driving an unroadworthy vehicle, but honesty, what are the chances of getting a pull unless your 40+ wreck does a full clown car collapse in the middle of a busy junction.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:58 PM

I wonder if my employers would pay business mileage on a car without MOT?

Anyway, expect the value of MOT exempt w123s to double!

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:21 PM

I can haz boner!

 

Historic vehicles will always be restricted in the future that's just inevitable. Lets face it in 10 years you won't be able to buy a car that runs on fossil fuel anymore it'll all be 'lectric power. So I say celebrate it while you can and don't worry about what might or might not happen down the line.

 

For me the advantage is ease of fleet movement and lack of admin rather than not needing an MOT. All my chod is 2 wheeled and my tester so lax that obtaining an MOT just means turning up half the time. Having 2 bikes in a lock-up 2 miles away and another in a friends garage 65 miles away plus the 4 at home means keeping them up to date with a ticket is a pain and once lapsed I need to ride to pre-booked MOT's which means it has to be done on a Saturday morning only. Being able to move bikes as and when will help me a lot. Once I've moved a few of the mid 90's ones on and bout a few more 70's models that is......

 

Lack of off street parking put me off having 2 cars years ago as a lapsed MOT was a huge PITA. I can see the search for a Volvo 240 estate starting soon......


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:26 PM

Watch the number of Mot exempt Land Rover Defenders and Mk5 Minis on ebay skyrocket.

Ring ring a ding.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:30 PM

I can imagine explaining the concept of a day time MOT (ie no lights fitted at all) on the trials bike will still be equally incomprehensible to a non motorcycle police officer when I get stopped once it's MOT exempt.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:34 PM

I'm already looking for a withnail and I style Jag;-)

Or maybe a rusty 2cv...
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:34 PM

Bloody excellent and rolling too so the Allegro should be exempt by the time i get it on the road... I can see the PT being replaced by a 70s Van or estate for work.  Like Junkman words cannot express how happy I am... 


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:01 PM

Daft idea.

Construction and use still applies.........but you don't have to sit the test.
And yes I do realise that the test do not include all C&U items.

Perfectly fine for people who have the sense/skills to maintain their vehicles.....but there are too many who just think they have them or just don't bother.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:16 PM

I'm fairly certain the vast majority of classic owners will look after their car and do everything in their power to ensure it's kept in a roadworthy condition, but at some point there's going to be some idiot who's running something about with rusty as fuck brake pipes or chafed brake hoses and end up having an accident.

What about all those 'restored' cars? You've got permission now to pop rivet sills on and cake underseal over filler on terminally corroded bits underneath.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:41 PM

Hurrah!

 

My '76 Bonnie will be free tax & no MOT so 'free' to run as soon as I do the rebuild it needs to make it work long enough to ride.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:42 PM

The only shit thing about this is that I need to move the Triumph this year so I'll still need to MOT the fucker...

In seriousness it's a crap idea overall but will allow me to keep my Dolly parked outside the flat without worrying about expired MOT/tax so fuck it...

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:42 PM

I'm not sure any MOT exemption is a great idea. I'm imagine statistically it doesn't make much difference in terms of safety, hardly anyone does a significant mileage in a classic that old after all. But personally, I like the security (possibly false) of having someone better qualified than me having a check over the car once a year. I would likely still put my cars in for a test in any case, it's a cheap check.

Can't see how it could limit the use of old cars unless they were to link it to the low emissions zones but who wants to drive there anyway?


Reading through this exemption document, there is nothing to say you can't have an MOT done anyway. Infact it does say you still can, just it becomes voluntary.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:44 PM

I'm fairly certain the vast majority of classic owners will look after their car and do everything in their power to ensure it's kept in a roadworthy condition, but at some point there's going to be some idiot who's running something about with rusty as fuck brake pipes or chafed brake hoses and end up having an accident.


True but if someone is silly enough to do that in a 40yr old car, it's not likely they'll survive such sillyness in an accident. If they hit a modern cars, it's likely the person's in that will walk away.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:45 PM

So who's going to be the first brave mad sole on here to buy a 40yr old car unseen, with no MOT and drive it back 200 miles? ;)

I put my bets on Junkman or Doctor Bo11ocks.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:46 PM

I'm just imagining all that half arsed shite on death row I can drive next year. Bloody brilliant!

No MoT, no tax, smoke billowing out of the windows, exactly like it was back in 1986.

Just legal this time around.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:47 PM

So who's going to be the first brave mad sole on here to buy a 40yr old car unseen, with no MOT and drive it back 200 miles? ;)

I put my bets on Junkman or Doctor Bo11ocks.

 

I've done this on a semi regular basis.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:03 PM

Guys, it's time to stock up!

 

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:04 PM

So who's going to be the first brave mad sole on here to buy a 40yr old car unseen, with no MOT and drive it back 200 miles? ;)


Been there, done that got the T-shirt. It's what we did in the olden days.


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