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#421 OFFLINE   captain_70s

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 08:32 PM

For those of you who have successfully managed to do this today, what MoT status do you get on the normal vehicle enquiry page?

 

I've gone through the same process as SIC described, I get "MOT No results returned". The last MoT expired on 17th May.

 

My Doloshite comes up with that as well, that's still registered as a regular car though...


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#422 OFFLINE   Conrad D. Conelrad

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 08:49 PM

To try this, i just online "taxed" a 1971 cortina that hasnt existed for 15 years but i still have the logbook for. Its not insured, and obviously has had no MOT since 2003, yet its now road legal. Absolutely batshit.

 

What exactly is batshit about it? You are also able to submit a self assessment form full of lies, apply for benefits you're not entitled to, send the council a planning application for a marijuana grow op etc.


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#423 OFFLINE   barefoot

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 08:53 PM

Just did the old bug. Really easy to be fair.

Then I realised I’ve owned it a while!

 

 

Did you declare that as un-modified despite its pre-67 wings and alloy wheels?


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#424 OFFLINE   SiC

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 09:20 PM

Did you declare that as un-modified despite its pre-67 wings and alloy wheels?


Alloys on the exemption of:
"in respect of axles and running gear changes made to improve efficiency, safety or environmental performance"
Because the bigger, modern alloys are substantially better performing than original steelies.

Wings because:
"changes of a type, that can be demonstrated to have been made when vehicles of the type were in production or in general use (within ten years of the end of production)"
I reckon people would have slapped on pre-67 wings on their bug when it still was in production.

Either way, I think he's safe.
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#425 OFFLINE   SiC

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 09:21 PM

For those of you who have successfully managed to do this today, what MoT status do you get on the normal vehicle enquiry page?

I've gone through the same process as SIC described, I get "MOT No results returned". The last MoT expired on 17th May.


My MGB said "No results returned" before and after I did the exemption. I did check!

Also the MOT history section of the DVLA site before and after says that it's expired, but maybe exempt.
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#426 OFFLINE   Isaac Hunt

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 09:28 PM

Back to 'old skool' methods when we buy 40 year old + stuff then...............no quick check of the DVSA MOT history for the insight 'that a tester gives'

#427 OFFLINE   SiC

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 09:35 PM

Back to 'old skool' methods when we buy 40 year old + stuff then...............no quick check of the DVSA MOT history for the insight 'that a tester gives'


The MOT history checker still gives results of old MOT history. However the car check just says no results found. I suspect retaxing of the vehicle wasn't necessary for today to be MOT exempt. I seem to remember reading somewhere (but I can't re-find it) that the DVSA will assume currently tax exempt vehicles don't need an MOT exempt declaration until the yearly retax is up.
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Posted 20 May 2018 - 09:41 PM

Because the bigger, modern alloys are substantially better performing than original steelies.
 

 

Eh?


Squeak, rattle and roll.

 

 

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 09:42 PM

Renault 6 is now road legal.  :)    Although for some reason (never actually spotted this before) it's on the V5C as 845cc, which is obviously balls - the TL was 1108cc as standard in 1972.  Not sure if I can really be arsed to try and get it changed though.

 

Haven't done the Volvo yet as I don't appear to have a current V5C for it, only the old blue one, so I'll have to do that at the PO with the green slip and a V112 I think.



#430 OFFLINE   The Old Bloke Next Door

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Posted Yesterday, 12:21 AM

To try this, i just online "taxed" a 1971 cortina that hasnt existed for 15 years but i still have the logbook for. Its not insured, and obviously has had no MOT since 2003, yet its now road legal. Absolutely batshit.

 

Best get it insured then.


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#431 OFFLINE   rickvw72

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Posted Yesterday, 12:24 AM

No option for modified, just radically altered really.
The bugs on its original shell, chassis, axles, and the same engine and gearbox type.
Only really altered if a custom chassis, different axles etc which will include most hot rods and customs I suspect.

Plus who really knows a 44 year old cars got the wrong wings, paintwork etc. The alloys are period correct too.
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Posted Yesterday, 12:33 AM

Too add. The bugs been continuously insured since 1999, that’s why I tried it.
It’s also no shed, but has been in storage last couple of years, so was well out of test.
I thought the tax website checked go insurance?
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Posted Yesterday, 07:37 AM

Has anybody found a way on line to change taxation class from Private/light goods to Historic?

 

I have only found instructions for taxing it at a post office.

 

My 1974 Peugeot is in a trim shop having a new hood, carpets and some leather seat repairs so I thought I would sort the tax, but system wants to charge me for it.


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Posted Yesterday, 07:59 AM

Has anybody found a way on line to change taxation class from Private/light goods to Historic?

 

I have only found instructions for taxing it at a post office.

 

My 1974 Peugeot is in a trim shop having a new hood, carpets and some leather seat repairs so I thought I would sort the tax, but system wants to charge me for it.

Taxation class changes have to be done at a PO, or by sending the V5c to DVLA. There are no other options now the local offices are gone.



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Posted Yesterday, 08:11 AM

This.
 
The worst they could do is grass you up to the rozzers but how many garages are going to be arsed doing that. Essentially the new fail states will just be used to scare people into thinking the car they've been driving with that fault for ages is suddenly 100% lethal so they shouldn't drive it again and have it fixed there asap for all the monies...


MOT centres in norn iron are government run, with examiners being civil servants. If a vehicle fails an mot, and it's classed as being dangerous, the examiner can issue a prohibition notice, meaning you can't drive the car from the centre. If you were to drive from the centre you're immediately committing an offence of (knowingly) using a vehicle in dangerous condition - which can ultimately result in a prosecution for dangerous driving...

So.... can English mot garages - centres issue prohibitions? If they can then it's a simple nod to the plod with a copy of the fail sheet and copy of prohibition.
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Posted Yesterday, 08:17 AM

Which one is that we can be fined for: taxed but not insured or insured but not taxed? I can never remember.

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Posted Yesterday, 08:19 AM

Taxation class changes have to be done at a PO, or by sending the V5c to DVLA. There are no other options now the local offices are gone.

 

Yup. Changing the Invacars tax class was nae bother. Got the MOT, went to a Post Office with the logbook, they stamped it and gave me a receipt, the Invacar was now Historic class. Had to wait a while for the logbook, due to other changes (body type and engine size) but it was all very easy.


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Posted Yesterday, 08:31 AM

Which one is that we can be fined for: taxed but not insured or insured but not taxed? I can never remember.

 

You can be fined for taxed but not insured. Insured and no tax is fine, providing you have declared SORN



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Posted Yesterday, 12:36 PM

Best get it insured then.


I'll be SORN-ing it again as soon as the websites have updated to show it as taxed, just to prove if it works. I did get a confirmation email though.

Plus its still registered to an address 100 miles away i was at at the time!
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#440 OFFLINE   captain_70s

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Posted Yesterday, 02:34 PM

Doloshites now all historic'd up. Inculding the 1850HL as I wasn't paying enough attention and accidentally had both of them taxed at the same time as the class was changed... Will need to SORN that again when it's on the system.

 

Presumably now I have a receipt to say the Doloshite is "taxed" as historic and it's age renders it MOT exempt it should be legal to drive it?


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Posted Yesterday, 09:09 PM

Computer says no.

 

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I obviously blew the system's mind by being in the wrong tax class. Academic really, given the state of it! Never mind, they MAY BE COMING TO GET ME...



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Posted Yesterday, 10:56 PM

I'll be SORN-ing it again as soon as the websites have updated to show it as taxed, just to prove if it works. I did get a confirmation email though.

Plus its still registered to an address 100 miles away i was at at the time!

 

 

My 109 is still showing as Sorn on DVLA site.


I must not buy any more cars.





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