Rusty_Rocket Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Don't all these taxed* cars need to be insured under the continuous insurance rules? Be careful what you sign up to... I'll be MoTing my 1975 Mini next week. I want to see how all this pans out first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Hunt Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Don't all these taxed* cars need to be insured under the continuous insurance rules? Be careful what you sign up to... I'll be MoTing my 1975 Mini next week. I want to see how all this pans out first!All still learning aren't we, whilst we get stuck in like a tramp on chips. My take on it is that to get 'tax exemption' if you haven't already got it, one needs to apply for it And in doing so you apply for Tax. The MOT exemption form gets you past that.. so nowt to stop you then declaring SORN as soon as your revised V5 comes back to deal with the lack of insurance. As for the period in between the application on the SORN, I am sure there will be a few tales to be told on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Don't all these taxed* cars need to be insured under the continuous insurance rules? Be careful what you sign up to... I'll be MoTing my 1975 Mini next week. I want to see how all this pans out first! Ooh, that's a very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Don't all these taxed* cars need to be insured under the continuous insurance rules? Be careful what you sign up to... I'll be MoTing my 1975 Mini next week. I want to see how all this pans out first!Yes I believe they do. If not insured then they can't be on the road and they'll need to be SORN. I don't believe those rules have changed. My MGB is still insured, so no worries for me there. I still intend to get an MOT, however the exemption is useful for me as my breakdown cover won't cover me otherwise. It doesn't cover me if the car requires an MOT and it doesn't have one. As it doesn't need an MOT now, it'll cover me whatever happens on the way to the MOT centre. Thus reducing my anxiety levels a fair bit. Rusty_Rocket 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Longbridge Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Result. My Lambretta is back on the road* (It's the blue SX150). Result. puddlethumper, tooSavvy and HillmanImp 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 All my cars are fully insured. It costs under £200 a year to insure the Imp, GT6 & Visa so there seems little point not insuring them for that cost. I should drag the Imp to some woods somewhere and pretend its been stolen and stripped for parts (including the paint) and get a free restoration done. barefoot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Longbridge Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Which company is that with? Seems silly cheap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Which company is that with? Seems silly cheap?Peter James. Been using them for years. Dick Longbridge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spottedlaurel Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I was wondering how to go about this. I shall give it a try with my 1200 later. It's already down as historic for tax purposes, it's insured but I think last year's MoT has just expired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angrydicky Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Dammit, two more years to wait for the Royale. The MoT exemption I'm indifferent over, but the tax exemption would be great. It's hard to justify the £250 a year it costs to tax the thing considering how little I use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickvw72 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Just did the old bug. Really easy to be fair. Then I realised I’ve owned it a while! Rusty_Rocket and GrumpiusMaximus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squire_Dawson Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Will be trying it on the Traveller later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Just tried this on the Daf, where the MOT expires tomorrow. It didn’t give me an opportunity to tick a box to declare it MOT exempt, so from what you’re all saying it seems I’ll just do it once the MOT expires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Just tried this on the Daf, where the MOT expires tomorrow. It didn’t give me an opportunity to tick a box to declare it MOT exempt, so from what you’re all saying it seems I’ll just do it once the MOT expires.Is it already on the tax exempt class? If so, I bet it's just a gremlin in the system. I'd hate to have to design that online tax system, so many corner cases it has to take into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Is it already on the tax exempt class? If so, I bet it's just a gremlin in the system. I'd hate to have to design that online tax system, so many corner cases it has to take into account.It is indeed. I just assumed that since I’m trying to tax it with a valid MOT it hasn’t triggered the “this is MOT exempt” box My main concern was that I’d need a valid MOT to declare it MOT exempt but from what’s been happening with other people, it seems that’s not the case. SiC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston Martin Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Can the coppers, tell the difference between a 35 and a 40 car? Will more cars be pulled over or less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Bloke Next Door Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Just successfully taxed my Series 3 109 Landy using the new DVLA online option, very straight forward process.Clean the rust off the brake drums tomorrow, a general check over then drive it from my workshop to my house. Then move my Series 3 Transit into the workshop for an appraisal. Its been used as a mobile shed for the last nine years and is slowly rusting away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Can the coppers, tell the difference between a 35 and a 40 car?They don't need to. Because ANPR and PNC. Aston Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squire_Dawson Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Let joy be unconfined! The half-timbered Thousand is once again road legal! loserone and 320touring 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayMK Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 It's just a hunch, but I would expect the police to be on the lookout for moss covered cars and grubby mopeds that have not been on the road for yonks. If my 1967 Peugeot moped would start, I'd be tempted to go the MOT exemption route. It all worked fine in 1981. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spottedlaurel Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 For those of you who have successfully managed to do this today, what MoT status do you get on the normal vehicle enquiry page? I've gone through the same process as SIC described, I get "MOT No results returned". The last MoT expired on 17th May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CortinaDave Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 To try this, i just online "taxed" a 1971 cortina that hasnt existed for 15 years but i still have the logbook for. Its not insured, and obviously has had no MOT since 2003, yet its now road legal. Absolutely batshit. The Old Bloke Next Door and trigger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_70s Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 For those of you who have successfully managed to do this today, what MoT status do you get on the normal vehicle enquiry page? I've gone through the same process as SIC described, I get "MOT No results returned". The last MoT expired on 17th May. My Doloshite comes up with that as well, that's still registered as a regular car though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad D. Conelrad Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 To try this, i just online "taxed" a 1971 cortina that hasnt existed for 15 years but i still have the logbook for. Its not insured, and obviously has had no MOT since 2003, yet its now road legal. Absolutely batshit. What exactly is batshit about it? You are also able to submit a self assessment form full of lies, apply for benefits you're not entitled to, send the council a planning application for a marijuana grow op etc. Squire_Dawson, loserone and tooSavvy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Just did the old bug. Really easy to be fair. Then I realised I’ve owned it a while! Did you declare that as un-modified despite its pre-67 wings and alloy wheels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Did you declare that as un-modified despite its pre-67 wings and alloy wheels?Alloys on the exemption of: "in respect of axles and running gear changes made to improve efficiency, safety or environmental performance"Because the bigger, modern alloys are substantially better performing than original steelies. Wings because:"changes of a type, that can be demonstrated to have been made when vehicles of the type were in production or in general use (within ten years of the end of production)"I reckon people would have slapped on pre-67 wings on their bug when it still was in production. Either way, I think he's safe. BeEP and barefoot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 For those of you who have successfully managed to do this today, what MoT status do you get on the normal vehicle enquiry page? I've gone through the same process as SIC described, I get "MOT No results returned". The last MoT expired on 17th May.My MGB said "No results returned" before and after I did the exemption. I did check! Also the MOT history section of the DVLA site before and after says that it's expired, but maybe exempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Hunt Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Back to 'old skool' methods when we buy 40 year old + stuff then...............no quick check of the DVSA MOT history for the insight 'that a tester gives' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Back to 'old skool' methods when we buy 40 year old + stuff then...............no quick check of the DVSA MOT history for the insight 'that a tester gives'The MOT history checker still gives results of old MOT history. However the car check just says no results found. I suspect retaxing of the vehicle wasn't necessary for today to be MOT exempt. I seem to remember reading somewhere (but I can't re-find it) that the DVSA will assume currently tax exempt vehicles don't need an MOT exempt declaration until the yearly retax is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squire_Dawson Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Because the bigger, modern alloys are substantially better performing than original steelies. Eh? Asimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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