captain_70s Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 The garage has no authority at all to detain the car, id just take it away. Nothing they could do about it.This. The worst they could do is grass you up to the rozzers but how many garages are going to be arsed doing that. Essentially the new fail states will just be used to scare people into thinking the car they've been driving with that fault for ages is suddenly 100% lethal so they shouldn't drive it again and have it fixed there asap for all the monies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Doubt very much the police would be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 5 more nights to go! I wonder how busy the breakdown service providers will be on Sunday. danthecapriman and Junkman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Not sure Sunday is going to be much to write home about tbh - one would have to tax the car using a V112 at a post office before one could legally drive it, and there aren't many post offices open on Sundays. I certainly won't be roaring around in the Renault 6 this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I might have a go Sunday, taxing something that hasn't moved in many years - just to see if I can! Should be fun! mercrocker, Eddie Honda, barefoot and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled_Tat_Gatherer Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 If you do then I'd be interested in the results...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Here is a little thought. So it seems like we'll need to fill in V112 and take it to a post office to become MOT exempt on cars already on Historic tax class. This is because the MOT exemption is a separate thing to the tax class. Partly because you need to declare its MOT exempt due to be both on age and not meeting the substantially modified clauses. However what about those vehicles already MOT exempt (i.e. pre 1960)? As it will be now declared, will those now not be MOT exempt until the owner totters down to their local Post Office and fill a V112 in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave j Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I think you get to tick a box at tax renewal time. Will find out soon enough as my camper is taxed to the end of mine and my mot is not until July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panhard65 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I just had a look at the V112 form and it hasn't been changed yet and still gives pre 1960 as a reason for exemption and not the 40 year rule. I will be testing the registering an import that is mot exempt in a week or so. I know I used to be able to register pre 60 cars without a test so will have to see if it works with the Renault 7 nigel bickle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 They're apparently going to make the new form live on the 20th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Longbridge Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I might have a go Sunday, taxing something that hasn't moved in many years - just to see if I can! Should be fun!Going back to my question a few pages back, I assume it has to be insured, aye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saabnut Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Going back to my question a few pages back, I assume it has to be insured, aye? Yes, as I think I replied at the time. It does NOT need to be insured to tax it (delays in insurance companies updating the MID stopped the checks) but under continuous insurance rules, if it is taxed it MUST be insured or they will fine you. Dick Longbridge and BeEP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Longbridge Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Yes, as I think I replied at the time. It does NOT need to be insured to tax it (delays in insurance companies updating the MID stopped the checks) but under continuous insurance rules, if it is taxed it MUST be insured or they will fine you.I want to register the Lambretta as MOT exempt (to be ready, on the off-chance I decide to sell it), but don’t want to pay for insurance on something I won’t use for the foreseeable. So basically, I could tax it online, then take a V112 to the PO next Monday and get it registered as MOT exempt? I’d SORN it straight after, so I don’t get the bollocking you mention... Edit: Just tried taxing it, and it states ‘The Welsh aren’t interested in your veehicle right now coz it’s not MOTd mate’... I wonder if that’ll change as of next week? Isaac Hunt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Does anyone have a logbook for a 504?I want to ring my 405. Sigmund Fraud, mercrocker and alcyonecorporation 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Quarter past midnight on 20th May 2018. V112 form and MOT exemption guidance not updated on the DVLA website. Maybe it was just all a bit hoax by the DVLA! alcyonecorporation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollysmart Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Quarter past midnight on 20th May 2018. V112 form and MOT exemption guidance not updated on the DVLA website. Maybe it was just all a bit hoax by the DVLA! I did read somewhere that the online declaration wouldn't be available until late June/July and all vehicles that were already MOT exempt would have to declare VHI anyway as they may not fit the new criteria. I think the V112 will be replaced by a new section on the tax application form if I have managed to read, and understand, the information correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I was being a div, the V112 was updated on the 18th May. I just kept opening my cached copy when my phone was asking!? This has been updated now: https://www.gov.uk/historic-vehicles Still not 100% clear to me what I need to do next for my MGB. I thought I'd need to go to the post office and fill in the V112, however that site reads like I don't need to do anything yet. Only when I renew my tax exemption do I need to declare there is no substantial changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 One other point I've just realised is that none of this applies to NI. They have no 40yr rolling MOT exemption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Well, as at 8.30 Sunday morning, they' ve amended half the system. IAs I said, I tried to tax a car that hasn't moved in 15 years online, as an exercise. Yesterday I was refused - no Mot. Today I was asked to confirm its exempt, which I did, so it then moved onto the Direct Debit - wanting to charge me £13.56 per month. I consider setting it up, then cancelling the DD before collection - but that just feels a massive pain, so I cancelled. I'll go into the PO later, but the system has def changed. They just don't seem to have linked sll the dots... Getting there. HillmanImp and SiC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Does anyone have a logbook for a 504?I want to ring my 405.Have you lost it? I just tried ringing it from my phone but its switched off. puddlethumper and Junkman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Actually - nut Shell! Let's cause some mayhem... I've taxed it - first time since@1980, without it turning a wheel. I set up the Direct Debit, let's see if they try to claim it. Deep joy.. SiC, Dick Longbridge and barefoot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Result. Just off out for a spin in it. loserone, wuvvum, SiC and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Is yours registered as Historical? If not, how did you get it free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 FFS, spell check! Historic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Pre 72 so was registered as historic/tax free anyway. Also done the GT6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I might try my MGB now. Will be interesting to see what it does, as it doesn't require the Tax exemption renewing for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 If I could be bothered to get the V5 out I'd try my Bonnie to see what happens on something that's not yet registered as historic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Before we do this, lets recap. My MGB GT MOT expired last month. It's currently set the historic tax class and wasn't due to need that renewing until the 1st August 2018. So I'm not quite sure what what will happen. Right here we go. I know it's taxed already and no the DVLA haven't asked me to redo it. Yes I know it's already taxed. You told me this a moment ago. I know totally what I'm doing*. Yeah I'm sure it's totally original-ish. Let's do this then. Wahoo! So I'm pretty sure it's now all properly registered as MOT exempt and ready to go?? Rusty_Rocket, trigger, HillmanImp and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Hunt Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Screenshot_20180520-084557.pngIMG_20180302_104209.jpgResult. Just off out for a spin in it.I'd be tempted to put a lick of paint on the front arches 1st The 'All things VED' website looks to be quite straightforward with the new revised forms. HillmanImp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_am_Diesel Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Bandwagon jumped on. My Lambretta is now road legal and hasn't been anywhere near a MOT station. Thanks government, you've made me happy for once. Isaac Hunt, Squire_Dawson, 4wheeledstool and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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