Stevebrookman Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 As mentioned in the grumpy column-my Range Rover has shit the bed. It needs the BeCM computer and engine ECU sent off to be unlocked. Fellow who was going to have a look on the weekend didn't bother.I've had the car 11 years so one FTP is not too bad. Wife wants me to change-but I don't want to go more modern-I would like the later shape L322 but modern cars have started to get me worried - jammed with computers and other things! (Ps-my degree is electronics-but you need to be a whizz with microprocessors these days). So I'm looking at going backwards and have spotted these two machines for example (will have to get present Rangy working first). http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-Classic-2-5-Classic-auto-Vogue-SE-TDi/272820485190?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 or http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-Rover-Vogue-Classic-1994-300tdi/232448251024?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 Any thoughts/advice/commiserations greatly appreciated. Steve Squire_Dawson and Bren 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthecapriman Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I wouldn't say going older was a bad idea at all. Simplicity is king, fuck all that stupid electronic shit off!If you pick a good car and look after it there's no reason why it'd not work out. I must say, the white one looks great! I'm not really a fan of white cars but that does look bloody good. Stevebrookman, mercrocker and eddyramrod 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Of all the RRs, the classic is still the one I'd have. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Stevebrookman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead_E23 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The white one looks very smart indeed. Looks good value too - I thought the prices of these would have gone through the roof by now. Stevebrookman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Range Rovers, to my untrained eye look either fantastic (like the ones pictured) or utterly crap. I think it is all to do with the stance. Some sit nice and straight and level where others are all uneven wheel arch gaps and look all baggy and loaping. And not at all attractive. A good one, maintained, could be a car for life if you can stand the fuel cost. Stevebrookman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevebrookman Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 White one hasn't been taxed since sept 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead_E23 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The MOT history of the white one makes intriguing reading - looks like it had a load of welding in 2008/9, so I think I'd be taking a head torch along to the viewing and having a close look at the floors, sills, body mounts, rear body crossmember and all the other places where they go. Stevebrookman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 They look like two soft dash classics? if so they were always the most desirable ones when I was into green oval junk. I'd get both then you've got a spare in case of FTP & tell ya missus it's an investment. Dave_Q and Stevebrookman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevebrookman Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Noticed that as well (MOT white one). Blue one seems more "honest". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Yep, they're soft dash models. I'm not sure a RR represents good value for money, though, when an almost-identical Discovery with essentially the same engine, running gear and interior can be had for less than a third of the price. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1997-Land-Rover-Discovery-300tdi-2-5-diesel-manual-/272821779435?hash=item3f8571fbeb:g:kqMAAOSwzb9ZocDD ... leaving plenty of money left over for a new seat diaphragm, a recon gearbox (if desired) and a blow-over respray (if desired) RichardK, Lacquer Peel and Stevebrookman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Your electronic problems with the current car are as nothing compared to problems of rot and decrepitude of most RR classics - judging by the Range Rover threads on here anyway. Timewaster, Dick Longbridge, Stevebrookman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead_E23 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Rot and decrepitude is part of the 'experience'. It's why there are huge shows for Land Rover enthusiasts to buy bits at and none for Land Cruisers! For example, last time I drove my Defender, the drivers window regulator mechanism came apart and I had to stop for 30 minutes to get the glass back in the channel. Hurrah. What a splendid hobby. danthecapriman, puddlethumper, djimbob and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_am_Diesel Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 A RR Classic is something I've always wanted but my head is ruling my heart on this one so I will just keep wanting. If I had a choice of the 2, I would plum for the blue one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevebrookman Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 A RR Classic is something I've always wanted but my head is ruling my heart on this one so I will just keep wanting. If I had a choice of the 2, I would plum for the blue one. I'd have the blue one-seems "genuine". Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Best ensure the white one's not ex-Jimmy Saville.Be very careful with old Rangies, they're as good at hiding rot as the BBC of hiding Jimmys shenanigans, and where it's all been addressed to keep an MOT man happy it's usually only scratched the surface. The last ones were far worse, I don't get why, maybe cats were sneaking in and pissing on them before painting. Lacquer Peel and Stevebrookman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Wife wants me to change... Mine gave up on that idea years ago... Dead_E23, Justin Case, Stevebrookman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevebrookman Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Best ensure the white one's not ex-Jimmy Saville.Be very careful with old Rangies, they're as good at hiding rot as the BBC of hiding Jimmys shenanigans, and where it's all been addressed to keep an MOT man happy it's usually only scratched the surface. The last ones were far worse, I don't get why, maybe cats were sneaking in and pissing on them before painting. Yep-always the later ones look completely shot. Stever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruff Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Mine was a 95 soft dash and had gone everywhere they usually do. When my mate gave it the big thumbs down I looked at a few others and they were all as bad as each other so I got him to do the work. It has to be said that, especially if you could do the work yourself it is worth it as they are starting to make serious ££££ now. If I was after one again, I'd repeat this and get one from somewhere hot. http://autoshite.com/topic/22718-the-lone-rangers-trans-euro-solihull-shitters-collectiondelivery/ I know Discos are the same underneath but they do fuck all for me, each to their own (/badgesnob) Stevebrookman and Timewaster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I managed to miss that collection thread first time around. Awesome! I had no idea they still made 2 door Range Rovers after 1985. (CSK excepted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 They look timeless where the Discovery looks dated. I'd love one with a VM diesel Stevebrookman and scruff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevebrookman Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 They look timeless where the Discovery looks dated.I'd love one with a VM diesel That's what I think-they look absolutely timeless. Steve Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Rot will be the issue on these.Also depending on efi system, I know some efi parts for my SD1 are impossible to source but I would imagine that most RR's have a hotwire system instead of the flapper. Stevebrookman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 That's why old diesels are FTW Stevebrookman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruff Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 3.9s are all hotwire and I think the 3.5 flapper is different again to the car one, but it's a long time since I dabbled in such things. Loads of VM ones in France, Spain, Portugal. Not a bad engine and the 2.5s go really well. Lacquer Peel and Stevebrookman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevebrookman Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 I wouldn't mind the 300 TDi to be honest-I'm taking the body computer out of the P38 tomorrow and will be sending it off along with the engine ECU to the Guru on Landyzone. Steve scruff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevebrookman Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 Took out the BeCM today Hope I remember where the wires go (all colour and size coded-thankfully!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Why not one with a real engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lord Sward Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 You need a late, well looked after TD5 Disco. Stevebrookman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonbennet Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 You need a 70 or 80 series Landcruiser, preferably grey import direct from Japan so never seen salt.These things just go on for ever, simple as anything ever made, if you got one and thoroughly rustproofed it, it could well be the last car you ever buy. Stevebrookman, scruff and DodgeRover 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_cal Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 You need a happy ending to this tale cos i'm picking up a 4.6 next week and this thread is giving me the willies. Stevebrookman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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