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#121 ONLINE   Junkman

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Posted Yesterday, 07:18 PM

Interestingly, if you google Rou. 407 tool, this is the first thing that pops up:

 

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1967 Renault 16 TL............................................now with floor and MoT

1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked

1974 Ford LTD................................................The Green Lean Machine
1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate.................now with aircon and brakes


#122 ONLINE   Junkman

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Posted Yesterday, 07:41 PM

Stupid question amnesty...

 

Why does that race have to be removed?


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1967 Renault 16 TL............................................now with floor and MoT

1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked

1974 Ford LTD................................................The Green Lean Machine
1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate.................now with aircon and brakes


#123 OFFLINE   Eddie Honda

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Posted Yesterday, 07:51 PM

I'd just tickle that with an angle grinder and finish it off with a chisel.

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Posted Yesterday, 09:32 PM

Stupid question amnesty...

 

Why does that race have to be removed?

 

Wheel cylinder seized.

Wheel cylinder fixing bolts seized.

Brake adjusters seized.

All inaccessible to anything except open-ended spanner because of proximity to swinging arm.

Therefore backplate needs to come off for proper applicaton of scientifically applied brute force and ignorance.

Backplate will not come off until bearing race removed, etc. etc....

 

Everything on this thing requires at least half a dozen perfectly serviceable and unrelated parts to be removed, usually by destroying them, to access the one defective part that you actually need to replace.

 

Sod it, you know why.

Because FRENCH!


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#125 ONLINE   Junkman

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Posted Yesterday, 10:15 PM

Okay, I contacted a Renault authority for advice.


1967 Renault 16 TL............................................now with floor and MoT

1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked

1974 Ford LTD................................................The Green Lean Machine
1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate.................now with aircon and brakes


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Posted Yesterday, 10:20 PM

Oh how Renault never change. A bit like modern Renault's that have the wheel bearing as part of the disc brake on the rears. Not only that, they're special bearings used for the ABS system too. So if your (usually as rears) lightly used discs are pitted, corroded or worn, you can't easily change just the discs. Instead you need expensive ones with fancy, special bearings in.

Does make you wonder if they do it on purpose to keep their part manufacturers on business.
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Posted Yesterday, 10:23 PM

Oh how Renault never change. A bit like modern Renault's that have the wheel bearing as part of the disc brake on the rears. Not only that, they're special bearings used for the ABS system too. So if your (usually as rears) lightly used discs are pitted, corroded or worn, you can't easily change just the discs. Instead you need expensive ones with fancy, special bearings in.

Does make you wonder if they do it on purpose to keep their part manufacturers on business.

Those 3 hour lunches don't pay for themselves.


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#128 ONLINE   Junkman

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Posted Yesterday, 10:46 PM

 

I have done it using a hammer and chisel, as a wedge, between the bearing and the backplate.


1967 Renault 16 TL............................................now with floor and MoT

1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked

1974 Ford LTD................................................The Green Lean Machine
1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate.................now with aircon and brakes


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Posted Yesterday, 10:52 PM

<random rant>

 

Why do car manufacturers use integral drums and hubs anyway?

I can't believe they are cheaper to make and, apart from needing a puller of some sort to get them off, you risk knackering the wheel bearings just to overhaul the brakes.

Also all the crap you clean out of the brakes gets into the bearing grease and they then wear out prematurely.

And the bearings need readjusting when you refit the drum.

And you need a  torque wrench and a new split pin for the nut and blah, blah, blah...

The one good* thing I have found on the R6 so far is that the front drums (yes drums, not discs, how quaint) are not only seperate from the hub but they have two extra tapped holes in them that you can screw bolts into to force the drum off the linings, which is handy when the adjusters are seized, as I found out.

Great design at the front, so why integral drum/hub on the rear?

Maybe they realised they had accidentally designed the front brakes properly and altered the rears to redress the balance.

 

</random rant>


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#130 ONLINE   Junkman

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Posted Yesterday, 11:01 PM

The first time I encountered the combined disc/hub assy shit was on the early Eighties F250/350 Ford Fuck Ups.

They were almost 400 Dollars a toss. 1980s Dollars, mind, so roughly £3.34.

Which was the average house price oop Narf back then.


1967 Renault 16 TL............................................now with floor and MoT

1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked

1974 Ford LTD................................................The Green Lean Machine
1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate.................now with aircon and brakes





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