Station Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 There are a few cars that are currently fitting this category. In 15 years time I will no doubt miss the day when these were a regular occurance, but at the moment, they just don't do it for me. I know this is purely generated because there are so many on the road and they are generally awful cars, but I really don't like these Escorts: I realise these five door things complete with obligatory cracked bumper are probably popular with mums and elderlies and people who just want to get from A-B, but I think out of every 'modern' car on the road, these should receive the title 'least desirable car', I don't think anyone buys one of these because they've wanted one for years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Dare I be controversial and say anything Eighties onwards with a Rover badge? I like Rovers a lot, but lots of people don't. I dread to think how many HFG Rovers and MGs will be rapidly becoming part of the Scrappage scheme...Which really makes it look like lunacy - spend a few hundred quid getting a head gasket repaired or spend THOUSANDS of pounds on a new car. Curse those attractive monthly payment options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I really don't know where to start. If I could recognise some cars without reading the badge, I would make a list, but they all look alike now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seth Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I know! All these modern cars all look the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Perodua Nippa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I was er, talking after 1990..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seth Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Sorry, was just making the point that cars from any era have always looked the much the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Dunno where you're based Station, but Escorts of that sort are getting pretty rare nowadays round these parts. I like them to be honest, they're of a decent quality and look really smart in the right trim spec/color, plus they have a proper "car" shape with nice proportions - something sadly lacking nowadays. On top of that, I've never really known them to be plagued with expensive problems. I'd not have one because I like weird old toss, but if someone said I could lend their 1.6 Zetec for a day, I think I'd quite enjoy it.As for Perodua Nippas, they're supposed to be a right laugh to drive - skinny tyres, lightweight and a revvy little engine. Heard it to be as fun to drive as an old Mini which can't be that bad. Never driven one myself but seeing as I've got a few cars which use essentially the same chassis I can see how they would be alright. They're a 3cyl engine but Daihatsu 3cyl engines are top-notch so I can't see a problem. I like the way they look all boxy too.Sorry to be defending dullard chod, but I think some alright stuff gets slagged off too much on here sometimes. Often it's not really the fault of the car - I myself detest what some cars stand for; when I see an Audi A3 1.9 TDi it frustrates me because it is very likely the owner is going to be some impatient little tosser in a Debenhams suit, but the car itself is probably alright - not really their fault that Audi put a big stupid gob on it and marketed it towards insecure people with good credit ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I suppose the Nippa is to Daitatsu Dominos what the Lada Riva was to the Fiat 124 - the primary difference being, to my knowledge anyway, that you can't make a quick packet out of re-exporting rusty old Peroduas back to Malaysia... :)In terms of undesireability amongst the general UK used car market though, they rank up there with N-reg 300,000 mile 1.6 Vectras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Mk6 (?) Escorts are vile. I had a 1.4 Encore which was fairly dire, but it was really bog basic so I thought a higher-spec one would be an OK means of transport. I then bought a 1.8 Ghia which was even more horrible than the 1.4. Gutless thrashy engines, horrible seats, poor sound insulation and hideous steering wheels. The wipers were nice and fast (came in handy when I was caught in a monsoon on the M11) and the Encore was reasonably economical, but other than that I can't really think of a good thing to say about them. Mate of mine had a K-reg Mk5 which I actually preferred, despite its having been universally panned by the motoring press when it came out.Never driven a Perodua Nippa myself, but I know several people who have and none of them has had a bad word to say about the way they drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lobster Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 It's very subjective though 'desirability' isn't it. Stuff that one of us likes will be something that another detests. Everything has some sort of appeal but for my money if every Vauxhall Vectra, Suzuki Baleno, Daewoo Matiz and Toyota Previa / Delica vanished then I would feel no sadness.But then different cars appeal differently to different people. We have our Suzuki Alto for sale at the moment and despite it being a basic, cheap car that many 'enthusiasts' would dismiss as valueless rubbish, I really like it and know that I'm really going to miss it once it goes Escort is interesting in that in 15 years the performance variants (RS2000 etc) will probably be quite decent money though I wouldn't think the base models will be greatly missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew e Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I like mk6 Escorts Hell I spent £8k on a 6 month old one in 97, because I like new cars SCANDAL!!!!! I do run them to the death mind. Two things I really disliked were a nearly new Vectra B (just didn't give any satsifaction through the lanes, and it was a 2 year old CDX V6 too) and the misses 306. I really don't think the 306 is that great in all honesty, I prefered the equivilant Megane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanF Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Peugeot 307. Especially in that metallic light green colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I like mk6 Escorts Hell I spent £8k on a 6 month old one in 97, because I like new cars SCANDAL!!!!! I do run them to the death mind. Two things I really disliked were a nearly new Vectra B (just didn't give any satsifaction through the lanes, and it was a 2 year old CDX V6 too) and the misses 306. I really don't think the 306 is that great in all honesty, I prefered the equivilant Megane!I've had a couple of 306's, The door started to fall of my 5 year old at the time 1.8 Meridian, Still nice cars though, But would of been better if it wasn't for the poor build quality. I hate the Vauxhall Astra Mk4's, A very dull car to look at, even in GSi form and that dashboard is utter shit, Who wants to look at huge mound of black plastic, Even the silver colour coding of it in the later one's couldn't take your eyes of the shittyness of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dollywobbler Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I adore Peugeot 306s. The only downside is build quality - or lack of it. Central locking issues on mine and crappy plastics were the only issues I remember. Great to drive and great looking in the right colour too. Mine was a silver 3-door DTurbo after the first facelift.As has been mentioned, the 307 is dreadful and totally unlovable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Pug 206's are the work o the devil. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 This was my old one Was a really nice car, was very quick for a 1.8i, If it wasn't for the split A-post and the habit of the windows dropping out of the runners and the rear speakers never working? I would of kept it longer. As for the 307, Horrid car, Took one for a test drive once, hated the driving position, You sit so far from the windscreen, It was like one of them MPV's to drive. 206 was just as bad, Used to pick them up from garages for bodywork and 15 minutes into the journey I'd have a bad back from the driving position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanF Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Pug 206's are the work o the devil. That is all.The devil couldn't be arsed to have a go with the 207.Actually, where would PSA be without the deep pockets of their finance department? I can probably count on one hand what cars are actually truly desirable without a fat wedge off and 0% interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 What about the first Renault Meganes? They're pretty dull but not really a bad car - so therefore unlikely to ever develop a following.Just remembering that this is cars that are likely to disappear without a trace rather than those that are just crap.Those Meganes were superceded by the 'fat arse' ones, which are at least distinctive, and not unpleasant to drive either. Now the current Megane is even more wacky in looks. Renault have really got it together just as Peugeot seem to be utterly losing the plot.But really, the early Megane is just like a 19 - is there actually a reason to own one? To most, non-shite folk, I'd suggest not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lobster Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 True about the R19 although the 16v and Convertible are quite nice. Bit like a lot of older French cars; think Citroen ZX, C5, Peugeot 309, R21.I suppose the same applies to a lot of VW / Audi stuff too. Mid '90's Audi 80's and Passats might be decent cars but are already thin on the ground. Surely extinction beckons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 What about the first Renault Meganes? They're pretty dull but not really a bad car - so therefore unlikely to ever develop a following.Just remembering that this is cars that are likely to disappear without a trace rather than those that are just crap.Those Meganes were superceded by the 'fat arse' ones, which are at least distinctive, and not unpleasant to drive either. Now the current Megane is even more wacky in looks. Renault have really got it together just as Peugeot seem to be utterly losing the plot.But really, the early Megane is just like a 19 - is there actually a reason to own one? To most, non-shite folk, I'd suggest not at all.I had a 1999 (I think) one that was dull as hell but sort of quite nice, fantastic on fuel and a bit of a surprise. Then it surprised me by breaking down due to some pulley bolt or other jumping ship on a bypass. Recovery fella told me it was a special tool to fix it and if he had to carry every tool needed to fix Renaults he'd need a 44 tonne truck and that I should get rid asap. So I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad D. Conelrad Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I hate the Vauxhall Astra Mk4's, A very dull car to look at, even in GSi form and that dashboard is utter shit, Who wants to look at huge mound of black plastic, Even the silver colour coding of it in the later one's couldn't take your eyes of the shittyness of it.I say this all the time, but grey plastic ruined car interiors for years and years. It's ugly, it feels horrible and it's hard to clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete-M Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 What's crap? Vectras, Kia Shumas, poverty spec BMWs (mainly the 4 pots), Merc C180Ks, Fronteras, High'n'dry Accidents, Rover 75 1.8Ts, Almera 1.4s, Polo 1.0s, Mk5 Escorts, FWD Transits, Nissan Vanettes, VW Passat diesel autos, Audi A4 1.6s, Mondeo autos, Shoguns, L200s, Ford Rangers.. the list goes on.Having said that, the least satisying car I've driven in the last 12 months was a Porsche Cayenne S. Fast as fuck and handled well, but the ride quality was dire compared to a Rangie, but the one thing that absolutely destroyed it for me was the throttle setup. 1st millimetre of pedal movement and the thing would rev like a bloody superbike. Almost impossible to move away without looking like a boy racer. Serious concentration needed to just crawl along in traffic without ramming something 50 feet in front. I realise that you're thinking "That's just your heavy right foot" but it wasn't, I swear. Don't get me wrong, the Cayenne can certainly get a move on, but it's all concentrated in the first inch or so of throttle, after that, not much happens. It was bad enough to ruin the whole car for me. I'm used to stuff with big power and oversized engines, but with all the good ones it's easy to trickle along in traffic. The Jensen would keep up with most traffic without exceeding 1500 rpm. In the Cayenne it's all or nothing.I suspect it's wrong to post this in 'ere, innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 what about these? I saw one the other day, MEGA SHITE What an utter box of jizz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Simple - All new Peugeots since the 307 came out in 2001.Total crap, the lot of them. The 407 is OK to look at, but is unreliable and not a patch on the 406. The rest just 'make me want to barf', as PaulH of this parish once memorably said.They seriously need to get Pininfarina back on styling their cars.I would nominate the 307 as the worst car of this decade.The '95 Vectra B and '99 Astra Mk4 were pretty poor compared to the contemporary Ford and VW equivalents, what were Opel thinking?2001/2 on Corolla, the just replaced generation of Avensis and the Auris are all dull and horrible as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I dont really understand this thread.Lots of cars are dull or crap nowadays, agreed, but I wonder what cars would be mentioned if a conversation like this was held, say, 25 years ago (not on the internet, obviously, that would just be silly lol)??????I'm just thinking about what I admire now Grey-grille Sierras, Tagoras, any Talbot of that era really, Sunny's, Ladas, Fiats, would have been certain candidates for discussion, but theyre all GR8 now!Every car, now matter how shit it seems, will have a following of some sort (limp effort at standing up for Vectra B's and Astra MK4's lol )PS I actually think those Escorts have quite a tidy shape, although not anything like as sharp as the MK3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Station Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 'Undesirable' if you had to live with it for 6 months, having to drive it everyday. I wouldn't mind doing this in something from the 70's or 80's because at least you stand out and there's some pride to be taken in that. Can I also nominate one of these: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j55/t ... 080318.jpg My dad has owned one of these for the past two years, and while I think it's a very likely candidate for future shite icon, I really didn't like driving it at all for a day, and I always hate seeing it everytime I visit. It's strange in that I quite like them - but I'd hate it quickly if I owned one. There's just nothing 'right' about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandamonium Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Nippa is an awesome little car. I'd have another in a flash, 60mpg and will sit at 80mph on the motorway. Yet will fit in half the space most other cars do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I love quirky looking cars, but I'm surprised SSang Yong hasn't been mentioned yet. Or the confusing myriad of Mercs that are all generally quite awful. Or the Citroen Xsara. The biggest insult to the Chevrons ever - even worse than a Saxo! Xsara must be French for dullness.Chrysler PT Cruisers? Then again, some people like them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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