Painting

[Flat4]

Does anyone happen to work in a body shop, or have any experience with this?

 

I basically need to get a new front wing on the Granvia (aka a HiAce with seats) and can get a good second hand one incredibly cheaply but I'm unlikely to find one in the colour I need as the bus is 2 tone. I can also spend an extra £50 and get a brand new wing from Toyota which appears to come in black primer. Can anyone advise which would be less work for the body shop to prepare and paint? The bus is mostly white, creamiscale I think is the official colour name, and the bottom half is a very light gold that looks silver. Any ideas on how much it's likely to cost? Been a while since I had a vehicle that I cared enough about to actually send to a body shop....But this one also needs a rather large dent in the rear quarter panel fixing/filling so I'm thinking get the wing painted at the same time.

 

The other option was to see if I could find a decent colour match in vinyl but I reckon that might be difficult and also be more noticeable. Could anyone advise on that?

[Junkman]

Do.

Not.

Paint.

[Flat4]

Why not?

[steveo3002]

ive been a painter all my working life- happy to talk you through anything

 

if theres a mint original paint wing and youre diy'ing it then id choose that becuase you will have the protection of the orig paint there as a base , but the black primer ones arent no bother to prepare

[Flat4]

ive been a painter all my working life- happy to talk you through anything

 

I won't be DIY-ing coz I wouldn't trust myself to do a good enough job. The other half may want to have a go tho as he's itching to chuck a load of fibreglass filler at every single dent but I've seen him fibreglassing my caravans, hence I bought one this time that didn't need fibreglassing.....So thank you for the offer, we may be back! I'm not expecting to make it perfect, just presentable. So new wing and have the rear quarter fixed/filled professionally. The other wee dents, etc, just add character imo

[DodgeRover]

Really there's no a lot to choose between new/ used from a prep/ paint cost point of view as long as the used wing isn't damaged or sprayed in something odd.

If it's a vehicle you are planning on keeping give the under side of the wing a really good coat of something to keep rust away whilst it is off.

I'm assuming they are bolt on?

[Dick Longbridge]

First off, buy the good, used wing. It'll be better quality and fitment than a new pattern part.

If you like the vee-hicle, plan on keeping it for the foreseeable, it's in good overall condition and you have money burning a hole in your pocket, get a bodyshop to do a proper job.

If it's a shitter, do a lash-up job with an aerosol and be prepared for it to look reasonably rubbish. Aerosols can produce a pretty good finish on corners, small areas of a plain colour, or areas like valances which are broken up with body fittings.

Painting whole panels such as wings with an aerosol is inevitably going to look shit, and will always stand out, regardless of your skills.

[Flat4]

Really there's no a lot to choose between new/ used from a prep/ paint cost point of view as long as the used wing isn't damaged or sprayed in something odd.

If it's a vehicle you are planning on keeping give the under side of the wing a really good coat of something to keep rust away whilst it is off.

I'm assuming they are bolt on?

 

Yeah they are bolt on. The second hand wing is silver on top, grey on bottom 2 tone. It needs to go white one top and silver on bottom to match the car.

 

First off, buy the good, used wing. It'll be better quality and fitment than a new pattern part.

 

 

The new wing isn't a pattern part, it's direct from Toyota.

[crapcarcollector]

Personally, I’d get the new wing. You’ve gotta paint it anyway, and there is no chance of a nasty surprise. It’s not like is a pattern vs original debate.

 

 

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[mercrocker]

Let a pro do the shiny side by all means but if you are able to, get a really good solid and durable finish on the underside.   Actual appearance won't matter but I have trusted a body shop to do this for me on the Minor - five years later I have just managed to poke a screwdriver through what was a brand new heritage front wing, despite copious applications of Dynax.     

 

There is no substitute for paint coverage where it can't be readily inspected.

[Flat4]

Been looking at vinyls to see if I could get a match to the original paintwork. It may be possible but then again, it would cost the same to wrap it in something daft like camouflage or rainbows The bonnet has some stone chips that could do with painting and the front bumper has a scuff, presumably from the same incident that dented the wing. It wouldn't look like a works van with a tartan front end, would it?

[Hendry]

Let a pro do the shiny side by all means but if you are able to, get a really good solid and durable finish on the underside.   Actual appearance won't matter but I have trusted a body shop to do this for me on the Minor - five years later I have just managed to poke a screwdriver through what was a brand new heritage front wing, despite copious applications of Dynax.     

 

There is no substitute for paint coverage where it can't be readily inspected.

 

5 years, jesus christ! would be expecting about 3 times that before its anything other than surface rust on a new wing.

 

Personally OP, id get the new Toyota wing, its a no brainer for the difference in price, as has been said theres hardly any difference prepping a brand new wing to an already painted one. The new one just means theres no danger of any slight rust or small dents or anything needing filled or sorted. 

 

Whats up with the one on the car and how bad is it?

[Flat4]

The one on the car is shagged. Several deep dents in it. They may beat out if we were to take the wing off the car but from the MOT history, they've been there for years so I doubt we'd ever get a decent finish on it. My mechanic reckons it'd be better to replace the wing than try to repair it.