Fabergé Greggs Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Here’s a wee video of the pump trying its hardest at idle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Pump sad face. Sucky yet not in a good way. Worth an ask at Essex Daf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Pump was a Facet SS501 and some other bits from Mini Spares Centre. I'll dig out the receipt later. It was mounted at the rear of the car (better at pushing) and only place I could find was behind the tank. Never got round to fitting the inertia switch. Was an arseache running the power feed beside the main look to the rear of the car. Just stick a fresh mechanical pump on, much less hassle Fabergé Greggs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Pump was a Facet SS501 and some other bits from Mini Spares Centre. I'll dig out the receipt later. It was mounted at the rear of the car (better at pushing) and only place I could find was behind the tank. Never got round to fitting the inertia switch. Was an arseache running the power feed beside the main look to the rear of the car. Just stick a fresh mechanical pump on, much less hassle I’ve ordered a £6 primer bulb until I can decide if I want the hassle or not.. purplebargeken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 ^^ THAT, right there is the AS way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Car maintenance isn’t working out for me today. I leant: 1) The Lidl oil pump I bought to do an oil change doesn’t fit down the dipstick tube. Either I have a small dipstick tube or pela pumps have a teeny tiny tube. 2) the primer pump I bought on amazon has 8mm fittings and not 6mm like I need. 3) the primer pump hasn’t worked- i primed like a lunatic for 10 minutes and nothing..neither does sucking through the petrol feed pipe- nor does using the Lidl oil pump as a kind of vacuum pump to try to draw petrol through. Do I suddenly have a hole in the fuel pipe? What’s going on? 4) I then spilt a full bottle of 3in1 into the boot over everything. 5) the new fuel pump I ordered hasn’t arrived. Naturally I really need to use the car on Wednesday, hoping to do 200 miles. BALLS HillmanImp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Used the primer/ siphon pump to shift some fuel from the scooter just make sure there was petrol in the tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 New fuel pump has made no difference- the other one was probably fine Can’t get it running long enough to make it to the garage, so I’ll have to get it towed in the morning ((( Do you need to be careful of towing these cos of belts etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Haven't read back through but have you checked the points and condenser? It was those things that caused me grief on my MGB and its second FTP. Also very common failure point on all distributor classics. Fabergé Greggs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Haven't read back through but have you checked the points and condenser? It was those things that caused me grief on my MGB and its second FTP. Also very common failure point on all distributor classics.It’s more that the fuel ain’t pumping. Runs like a champ with a float bowl full of fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Ah yeah thats probably not the points. Tried sticking the tank fixing end onto a bit of pipe and into a can? Just wondering if the tank pickup is blocked. I guess you're fed up of trying to diagnose it and just want it working now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 I’m pretty certain it’s a hole in the fuel line. I can blow back down the line into the tank and hear bubbles, and I can freely suck air through the fuel line, but no petrol is pulled through. I need the garage to do it as I can’t be drilling the tank on the street to replace the line, and the car only runs on one float bowl at a time, so it’ll need to be a tow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Morose Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Run a flexible pipe from pump to a can of fuel on the passenger seat.Drive car to garage.Job jobbed. Fabergé Greggs and The Moog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Run a flexible pipe from pump to a can of fuel on the passenger seat.Drive car to garage.Job jobbed.Not a bad shout. I suppose no kittens would die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Morose Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Also proving that it's the line or the tank that's at fault.Where on the tank does it draw its fuel from? I ask as if it's from the top, it's not unknown that the stack pipe inside the tank (the bit that reaches not quite the bottom of the tank inside) falling off or even rotting part way. I've chased running problems round till I'm tearing my hair out then the lightbulb moment - aha! Fabergé Greggs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 I had considered the stack pipe, but my scientific test of blowing from the engine bay, down the line into the fuel tank produced many audible bubbles in the fuel tank.. I think that proves what I’m hoping it does...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandeth Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 If you can suck air in, there's a hole in the fuel line somewhere. Is there some particular reason it's a major problem to change on these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 If you can suck air in, there's a hole in the fuel line somewhere. Is there some particular reason it's a major problem to change on these?Just that I need to drop the tank, which I don’t fancy doing on the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I refer to my comment (145) on the last page. You have a hole in the fuel pipe, probably by the tank. To confirm run a temporary long pipe from a can in the passenger footwell, to the pump. After priming, should be good to go, enabling you to drive it wherever. Access on most old cars can sometimes be made via the sender inspection hole, although, if tight, the tank may indeed need dropping. Horrid job, but not difficult. Ensure ethanol compliant hose so it doesn't happen again. Fabergé Greggs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 I refer to my comment (145) on the last page. You have a hole in the fuel pipe, probably by the tank. To confirm run a temporary long pipe from a can in the passenger footwell, to the pump. After priming, should be good to go, enabling you to drive it wherever. Access on most old cars can sometimes be made via the sender inspection hole, although, if tight, the tank may indeed need dropping. Horrid job, but not difficult. Ensure ethanol compliant hose so it doesn't happen again.I fully agree with your diagnosis. Temporary tank and journey to garage has just taken place. Thanks lads! Jerzy Woking, Datsuncog, The Moog and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Great that you got her there mate. I reckon that it is indeed the fuel line. Don't s'pose you could ask them how much they might charge to sort the thermostat housing on the ZT for me please. I have the housing to hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 Great that you got her there mate. I reckon that it is indeed the fuel line. Don't s'pose you could ask them how much they might charge to sort the thermostat housing on the ZT for me please. I have the housing to hand.Yup I’ll see what they say when I pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Thanks mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Most of the fuel line is nylon tubing. I bought about 30m of the stuff in Slough one day. Only need about 4m for a car... The rest is just short linking pieces of fuel hose. It runs inside the nearside underfloor transmission cooling duct and has a couple of aluminum pieces to hold a pair of right-angles at where is flicks up over the transmission. https://flic.kr/p/4FbfNf Fabergé Greggs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 Joys! Delight!This cheeky little sausage is back in the good books! The friendly local garage found a perished rubber hose that runs up and around the tank- all that trouble from a teeny little section of hose. Probably didn't need that new pump, but hey ho.They did an oil change to 20w40 and set the valve clearances- they were way out and it now runs at half the volume! Sadly the supplied rocker gasket was wrong, but the original seems to have sealed nicely with some sealant.Behold the shiny bits and new smooth running! It sounds clattery here but that's phones for you. Your ears would agree with me. trigger, SiC, The Moog and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 One remaining task before I forget- it has a healthy habit of marking its territory- I was hoping that this was mostly the rocker cover, but it transpires that the crank main seal is weeping a fair bit too. I’ll source one and have the garage pop it in. This having someone fix stuff for you concept is bliss! Datsuncog and Jim Bell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Oh balls, after all that it was wrong!!? Shitting ebay Sorry mate Fabergé Greggs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Beach status unlocked Jim Bell, Datsuncog, GrumpiusMaximus and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Again looks teeny nestled in between the bloaters of modern car design. All the better for it tbh. How does she drive now? Fabergé Greggs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpiusMaximus Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Again looks teeny nestled in between the bloaters of modern car design. All the better for it tbh. How does she drive now? Volvo 740 isn't that modern! DAF is great though. Fabergé Greggs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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