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Can't Tax Vehicle-Can I Use It?


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#1 OFFLINE   Jerzy Woking

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 05:43 PM

Bought another bike this afternoon, which is sorn'd. Got it home in a van and insured it. Went to tax it online to find it only has an 11 digit number and not the 12 they want. Can't tax it using their phone line either (same 1 digit problem). And all the post offices (in a ten mile radius) are closed.

So of I ride it tomorrow as I need to, what are the chances of me getting bum-raped by DVLA for riding a Sorn'd bike that is impossible to tax until Monday?

I will be using major trunk routes so my chances of avoiding their Big Brother cameras are non existent.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 05:47 PM

Trying sticking a 0 before the reference number.



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 05:51 PM

Were you given the whole V5? The 11 digit number is on the front, as a new keeper you need the 12 digit on the green slip on the back page.


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 05:59 PM

Tried sticking a zero in front of the 11 digit number. No luck.

Only have the V5C/2. It would seem that because the last owner had it for 12 years the V5 only has an 11 digit reference-later issued V5's have 12 digit reference numbers. Not my fault that DVLA can't deal with their own documents-they can stick any fine I get right up their arses.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:28 PM

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:28 PM

Do the tax on line thing until you get to the 'computer says no' page.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:50 PM

Yeah, not sure that's going to work.
If it ain't taxed, it ain't taxed. It's like saying "I tried to pass my test, but the driving test office was closed so I thought fuck it and took a picture of the closed sign and been driving since".
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:07 PM

I'm not sure that's really comparing like with like.  For one thing, if he taxes it on Monday, he will be paying from the beginning of the month anyway so it will effectively be retrospectively taxed tomorrow.

 

Previous owner should have been sent a new-style logbook automatically though - bit odd that he hasn't.



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:10 PM

Yeah, but Bollox got caught out like that. Went to tax it at work (which would have started the tax from the beginning of the day) but got snapped and a fine sent through. If you're not taxed, you're not taxed as far as they're concerned.
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:10 PM

Try using the 11 digit number but put a 6 in front of it.
Also make sure to answer no when the website first asks you if you have a reminder in your name, then when it goes to the next page, tick the bottom option (new keeper V5/c2 green slip option)
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:18 PM

I'm not sure adding digits is going to work.  Assuming the DVLA sent out a new-style red V5C and either the previous owner or Postman Pat lost it, then the document that JW has won't be the most recent one and will be rejected by the website anyway.


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:36 PM

It's like saying "I tried to pass my test, but the driving test office was closed so I thought fuck it and took a picture of the closed sign and been driving since".

Works for me - I keep this in my wallet...

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 08:26 PM

Do the tax on line thing until you get to the 'computer says no' page.
Screen shot & save it in case you need it later.

  

Yeah, not sure that's going to work.
If it ain't taxed, it ain't taxed. It's like saying "I tried to pass my test, but the driving test office was closed so I thought fuck it and took a picture of the closed sign and been driving since".


My point was badly made, I meant to add and then sort it properly on Monday.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 08:37 PM

Will tax it first thing on Monday-so early I'll even beat the pensioners to the door
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 08:50 PM

Some post offices are actually open on Sunday now, if you have one near you that's combined with a corner shop you might be able to go there tomorrow. 

 

There's one near me that does tax that's open 8:30-20:00 tomorrow. 

 

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:51 AM

You may find the bug at the post office too as they use a similar system. You will need to apply for a new log book V5C alas and keep it off the public highway. We have a clamping epidemic in London...virtually every street has a yellow clamped car. Its alright having a good reason to not be taxed but once its clamped its clamped and expensive to get off and then try to get your money back...slim chance and lots of trouble. They don't enter private land but I'd still keep it out of view if possible.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:17 AM

Yo, I've got a green slip/logbook question.

 

Obv the lad I bought my blue Pony X2 from has not sent the logbook off, as none has come through to me. I signed the paperwork at the time though and I've got the green slip. Can I use this to A) apply online for a logbook or B) Pretend to be the seller and do the keeper change online?


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:20 AM

B) but he think the main part of the V5 has a different doc number, possibly starting with an '8'.
You'd be daft not to try it tbh.
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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:21 AM

I think so, if it's got a 12 digit number then you just need to drop either the 1st or last number as the one on the front is 11 digits apparently.

 

I haven't got a logbook handy to compare but you should be able to work it out if you have. 

 

While you're here, what happened in the case of DVLA vs Reg_Ballz that someone mentioned upthread there? 

Did you manage to get them to drop it in the end?


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:29 AM

Yo, I've got a green slip/logbook question.

Obv the lad I bought my blue Pony X2 from has not sent the logbook off, as none has come through to me. I signed the paperwork at the time though and I've got the green slip. Can I use this to A) apply online for a logbook or B) Pretend to be the seller and do the keeper change online?

Take the first digit away from the number on the green slip and you will have the v5 reference number.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:31 AM

They wrote me 3 threatening letters asking for £305, and I wrote back each time politely saying I had clearly paid all my car taxes in a timely manner and had no intention of paying their arbitrary and completely disproportional fine, and in the absence of any other option I would reluctantly attend a court hearing to discuss it. After the third angry demand letter they wrote another saying they would proceed with a prosecution, but I haven't heard anything else for 5 or 6 months now.


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:38 AM

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:42 AM

Yo, I've got a green slip/logbook question.

 

Obv the lad I bought my blue Pony X2 from has not sent the logbook off, as none has come through to me. I signed the paperwork at the time though and I've got the green slip. Can I use this to A) apply online for a logbook or B) Pretend to be the seller and do the keeper change online?

 

I've sent a request for a duplicate off and where it asks for the fee, written 'No fee enclosed as you lost the last V5'. Never had them argue it.



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Posted 26 September 2017 - 12:01 PM

I've sent a request for a duplicate off and where it asks for the fee, written 'No fee enclosed as you lost the last V5'. Never had them argue it.

DOne this too, though if you have the green slip you can use a V62 I think it is - send that (Green slip and V62)to DVLA and you'll get a v5 in your name free of charge.


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 12:46 PM

I had a letter back stating there was no sign of the logbook I sent in 1994, I guess it should have arrived by now so I paid the fee.
Wierdly when I have been chasing logbooks for my bikes with just a frame number a couple of times they have just sent a logbook with no charge, I guess at some point someone sent off the bottom of the old style logbook on these but the new owner didn't send off the top.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 12:56 PM

To be honest these days, it's easier to sort the V5 out online when you're buying the car do it there and then and tax at the same time using your green slip, if you do it online it takes about a week for the full V5 to get to you or it has the past twice I have done it online.


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 01:23 PM

Aye, if you have the green slip and send it off with a V62 they'll send you a V5 gratis. If you don't have the green slip its £25 which is what I had to pay on the Peugeot so I could tax it, and will have to pay on the E36 as well. 

 

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 01:25 PM

It is easier online unless it's 10pm,
I've just used the green slip online and dropped the first number, v5 was on the doorstep within the week
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Posted 26 September 2017 - 02:04 PM

It is easier online unless it's 10pm,
I've just used the green slip online and dropped the first number, v5 was on the doorstep within the week


Isn't it 7pm when the DVLA computer inexplicably goes home for the night and won't accept online owner change requests until it starts work again at 7am? I really don't fully understand why it does that in a modern 24/7 internet enabled world.

I've done both the V62 to get the tax class changed for free from Disabled class to normal (I hadn't received the V5 yet, honest guv) and more recently online owner change when its been slow. As the online system doesn't involve someone entering the details from a big pile of v5 in some DVLA office, it usually only takes a couple of days to get the V5 through rather than the 2-4 weeks that sending the old V5 in takes.
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Posted 26 September 2017 - 03:39 PM

I only got the green slip when I bought the 850 from J. Dyane. It wasn't even my green slip, it was the one he'd got when he bought the car. IIRC I even had to tippex his details out but I still managed to get a V5 without paying a fee.






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