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#391 OFFLINE   Noel Tidybeard

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 09:14 AM

i would've though tighten then loosen to next castlation


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 11:48 AM

i would've though tighten then loosen to next castlation

 

That's what I've always done.



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Posted 17 October 2017 - 12:49 PM

Yeah I totally agree that the a-arm fixings have been overtightened and probably weakened. I needed to tighten them up tight though to firstly get the split pin through but also to stop it untightening as the arm moved up and down. Even at 60lb-ft odd, without the split pin in, moving the arms up and down caused friction on the washer which caused it to move. With a nyloc, I'd be worried that it'd be slowly undoing this but still.


The way it is supposed to work is that the nut and washer tighten the inner metal sleeve of the bush against the mounting so that the sleeve (and washer/nut) can't move.

The movement should come from the flex in the rubber.

If the inner sleeve and washer/nut are moving then something is wrong.

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CHRIS1980, on 08 Jan 2016 - 8:37 PM, said:snapback.png

Your clearly thick....end of.


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 01:05 PM

The way it is supposed to work is that the nut and washer tighten the inner metal sleeve of the bush against the mounting so that the sleeve (and washer/nut) can't move.

The movement should come from the flex in the rubber.

If the inner sleeve and washer/nut are moving then something is wrong.

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If you look at the bushes in this picture, the steel tube ended up set inwards compared to the rubber that has squidged out. I was trying to tighten it up enough to get the washer squishing up to the steel tube, for the reasons you mentioned above. Hence why I was tightening it so much.
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I do wonder if I might have managed that, but the distance between the steel tube and the castellated nut holes isn't sufficient to get the nut done up enough to get the split pin through.

Maybe I did tighten it up enough to fit the washer against the steel tube with a ratchet, but was massively overtightening when trying to get it to the castellated nut hole?
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Posted 17 October 2017 - 01:09 PM

Maybe I did tighten it up enough to fit the washer against the steel tube with a ratchet, but was massively overtightening when trying to get it to the castellated nut hole?


Have you still got the old bushes? Can you measure them and compare with the new?

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Your clearly thick....end of.


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 01:15 PM

Have you still got the old bushes? Can you measure them and compare with the new?

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I have both. The original bushes though are just fully rubber, with no inner steel tube. So the rubber can keep compressing until you compress all the rubber - no metal to stop it. The ones I was fitting are "upgraded" metalastic bushes (originally specced for the V8 MGB) with a bonded inner steel tube.

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 01:27 PM

Ok, the old bushes with no sleeve would definitely need the castellated nut. (But they are a horrible way to do the job. Not seen that type. Not owned any MGs though.)

The new ones should be fine with a nyloc nut and a smaller washer. Just make sure it clamps the sleeve so that it can't turn.

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Your clearly thick....end of.


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 02:16 PM

Yeah I had considered that.
Bulb is 2.2w, so at 14v (2.2/14)= ~160mA - call that 200mA for a margin.


25W wirewound at 70 Ohm would also provide a certain degree of protection against fire in case of some random short circuit. It can handle being across 14V without smoking up.

The connections to the bulbs in the back of those is pretty dire at best of times, especially when the damp gets in. Blue LED in the high beam lamp also is a good one, bright enough and actually the proper blue it should be behind the little plastic "crystal".

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:06 PM

For reference, this is how the front end suspension is built up:
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Part 40 is the v8 design bushes, part 39 is the original stock bushes.
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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:15 PM

It's 'orrible!

The standard (two part) bushes do at least have a ridge to stop fore and aft movement. The V8 bushes don't!

I would go for some decent quality PU replacements.

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Your clearly thick....end of.


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:21 PM

For reference, this is how the front end suspension is built up:
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Part 40 is the v8 design bushes, part 39 is the original stock bushes.

 

Bah should have got a golf on PCP m9!



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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:29 PM

Bah should have got a golf on PCP m9!


Honestly? It would have been cheaper! £999 deposit and £269 p/m ... and it'd work.
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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:57 PM

.... I have just dropped ££ on ToMM©... But >> It Works ;)

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Posted 18 October 2017 - 07:23 AM

... and it'd work.

 

You're missing the point ; BL unreliability is the reason we all* love their cars ! They truly mastered the psychological concept of "variable interval intermittent reinforcement" !

 

Also see : Alfa Romeo.


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:25 AM

New bushes, pair of a-arms and an assortment of bolts, washers and nuts to replace anything damaged/worn out. A great* way to spend £120. I cba even to take it out of the bag to photograph now.
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£43 for 8 small bits of rubber, a cut metal tube and some lube. I'm in the wrong business.
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Posted 20 October 2017 - 11:11 AM

8 & 18 please...


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 12:42 PM

I used stock bushes.

With the V8 bush I'd have pressed the bush to one end and shortened it, or filed the base of the castle nut a bit.

You must love spending money.



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Posted 20 October 2017 - 01:07 PM

I used stock bushes.
With the V8 bush I'd have pressed the bush to one end and shortened it, or filed the base of the castle nut a bit.
You must love spending money.


Stock bushes look like they'll be worn within a thousand miles or so ... which yes, is probably more than I'll ever do in it...

I did consider cutting the bushes down at the ends but wasn't sure the effect it'd have on the structure on them and if it would weaken them, being that its part of the structure of the bush. Right now I just want to get the thing working, so I don't mind throwing a bit more cash to make that job easier/quicker.

Also Moss are excellent in their returns policy. As long as its in a resalable condition and you have the receipt, they'll take it back for a full refund within a year. As the store is local, I don't have any postage fees to do that either. Makes it a bit less painful paying Moss prices and overbuying.

So I could use the V8 bushes still and return these. However I suspect my life will be a lot less painful just using these. I do like the idea of using V8 bushes though, as potentially softer and more original.
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Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:28 PM

With nylock you tighten and forget, just make sure there's a small amount of thread at least protruding beyond the end of the bolt otherwise an eagle eyed tester will fail you as the bolts are technically insecure if there's no thread visible at the end.

Is this likely going to be a problem? It's the nyloc nut positioned on the a-arm.
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Going by the dimensions, it won't be possible to leave a few threads visible.
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Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:39 PM

I'd use it if it came level. If it worries you you can get thinner nuts.

If the MOT man complains put a thinner washer on and change it back after.


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:00 PM

Looks like with the V8 bushes, the nyloc won't have any grip on the threads. I'm wondering, is the washer supposed to be removed when using V8 bushes?

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:21 PM

Looks like with the V8 bushes, the nyloc won't have any grip on the threads. I'm wondering, is the washer supposed to be removed when using V8 bushes?

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The new ones should be fine with a nyloc nut and a smaller washer. Just make sure it clamps the sleeve so that it can't turn.

Ben


It's 'orrible!

The standard (two part) bushes do at least have a ridge to stop fore and aft movement. The V8 bushes don't!

I would go for some decent quality PU replacements.

Ben


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CHRIS1980, on 08 Jan 2016 - 8:37 PM, said:snapback.png

Your clearly thick....end of.


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:18 AM

I used stock bushes and they compressed enough to have some thread visible. As Mally says, you can also get thinner nuts or thinner washers. Local industrial fastner supplier should have these.

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:28 AM

Not entirely clear from the photo but it looks like I did reach the a-arm flat and bush steel core. Just was tightening it up way past that and crushing the steel washer into it.

I can't decide if to go poly bushes or just use these V8 bushes. 1dbfe595f15d462f57d1a4d2b05eb2a4.jpg
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:50 AM

Damaged A-arm off. Most of the damage looks to be the castle nut rather than the thread on the a-arm. No point taking any risks though, in case I stretched stuff and weaken the metal shaft. 2 bolts were tight on one side. Other side really loose!

I really need to make a decision about these bushes asap now. Coming to the point I need to decide. beffa91bc4ca729565f14e4d2ce92b99.jpg0d3862b4655823f19d1f561102ef37f4.jpg
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:53 AM

If going poly I'd do the lot, just so it all matches.



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Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:54 AM

Now you are so experienced in MGB GT suspension I will drop mine off in case you are ever bored, it will only take you an hour now!

 

My friend drove mine this summer who has spent thousands with Oselli Eng to make his perfect and pronounced mine tired!

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 10:58 AM

Well this explains why I couldn't tighten it up. Turns out that the washers on the OEM only fit one way. The hole must be tapered.

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2010 Aldi A4 - Owned to placate the wife on my crap buying


My history: 2003 Clio II 1.2 16v (First car), 2003 Honda Civic 3dr 1.7 CTDi (Isuzu lump), 1992 Mazda MX5 1.6, 2005 Mazda RX8 192bhp, 2005 Saab 9-3 1.9TiD 150bhp, 2007 Honda Civic 2.2 CTDi, 2004 Renault Scenic 1.6 Auto (Now Kiltox FiL), 2004 Saab 9-5 2.3t (Now Hooli), 2004 Smart Roadster 80bhp
Wife history (that she used/owned but I had frequent use of): 2002 Renault Clio II 1.2 16v (Billabong!), 2006 Mazda MX5 1.8, 2004 VW Golf 1.6 FSI, 2005 Renault Scenic II 2.0 (went bad from the drive back when buying it!), 2002 Vauxhall Astra 1.6 16v (now phil_lihp ex-colleague), 2005 Renault Laguna II v6 (Now angle)

#419 OFFLINE   busmansholiday

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 11:13 AM

Just going back to the £120 you spent with MOSS, 43 quid for the bushes, the pivot arms are 23 quid each, so that's 89 quid. Thirty one quid for assorted nuts and bolts, are they gold plated ? As we say up here, "how fucking much ??!!"
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#420 OFFLINE   SiC

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 11:15 AM

There's 10% discount on that too!
Current Fleet:
1974 MGB GT - A stereotypical classic car.
2007 Honda Civic EX CTDi - The reliable runner that is like the family pet.
2010 Aldi A4 - Owned to placate the wife on my crap buying


My history: 2003 Clio II 1.2 16v (First car), 2003 Honda Civic 3dr 1.7 CTDi (Isuzu lump), 1992 Mazda MX5 1.6, 2005 Mazda RX8 192bhp, 2005 Saab 9-3 1.9TiD 150bhp, 2007 Honda Civic 2.2 CTDi, 2004 Renault Scenic 1.6 Auto (Now Kiltox FiL), 2004 Saab 9-5 2.3t (Now Hooli), 2004 Smart Roadster 80bhp
Wife history (that she used/owned but I had frequent use of): 2002 Renault Clio II 1.2 16v (Billabong!), 2006 Mazda MX5 1.8, 2004 VW Golf 1.6 FSI, 2005 Renault Scenic II 2.0 (went bad from the drive back when buying it!), 2002 Vauxhall Astra 1.6 16v (now phil_lihp ex-colleague), 2005 Renault Laguna II v6 (Now angle)




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