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Should I buy an SD1?


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#1 OFFLINE   Ratdat

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 06:17 PM

Who's run an SD1? Six pot version that is. Any good? I'm feeling a bit tempted on some shonky old BL shite.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 06:23 PM

Didn't the six pot versions have trouble with the cams seizing in the head?Mind you, I have to admit any version bar the 2 litre ticks all the boxes for me. Just watch out for rust, rust and more rust.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 06:27 PM

I've got an SD1 Vitesse. Pile of poop really. Sorry
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 06:29 PM

I've got an SD1 Vitesse. Pile of poop really. Sorry

In what way?

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 07:16 PM

Didn't the six pot versions have trouble with the cams seizing in the head?

Thats correct, down to a tiny non-return valve in the head gumming up due to infrequent oil changes....rust everywhere is the main enemy though :roll:
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 07:25 PM

Ok.Its not been on the road for a few years - but the memories remain!This low mileage, immaculate one owner car is/was a constant disappointment. Parts constantly failed for no reason (ie -windows just fell off their runners), fuel consumption ruinous (computer says 0.6mpg -cold and autochoke) for realistically only average acceleration.It was only quick at the top of the rev range. Trim is less than hardwearing, rust proofing abyssmal,towing performance was rubbish. I couldnt find a sensible use for it.However -it did sound good -and in time it'll come out of store -I'm sure.To make sure I kept it -I put a valuable reg on it -so I can't sell it can I?
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 07:35 PM

Six potters are supposedly a lovely drive. But I'm sure you'd always be disappointed not to have the soundtrack to go with it. My dad had one when I was about 10 and it was the most fantastic thing ever, listening to the V8 burble away as we wafted about in luxury. Oh and yes, it was unreliable and disgustingly thirsty. :lol:

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 07:43 PM

It's BL, it's meant to fall part and break down! :lol: Just kidding BL fans!
I'm going for it. I don't really need to have a purpose for it, it's purely just because I fancy one. It's not gonna be doing lots of miles so I'm not too worried about economy and I have my truck for towing. If I hate it'll I'll just flog it on. It's reasonably priced (£675) and has a new ticket. Here it be...

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 07:48 PM

Looks remarkably smart. Not my bag though - call me a picky peter, but I much prefer the style of the series 1 cars, the lamps recessed a bit, and the materials used in the later cars are not as groovy. Also the earlier ones were usually in lovely lurid colours.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 07:54 PM

I think you're gonna like it ed. The six-pots have a soundtrack all of their own and are surprisingly economical. Not fast like but if they hadnt suffered the old cam seizing problem I reckon theyd be considered a 'great engine'. Driving position and general waftiness is grat on those SD1's.I would love a cheap tidy 2000 SD1, I would lob its engine out and fit a diesel from a Rover 200 bubble. One just sold on there today for £100, had to sit on my hands. OLDSKOOL RWD BL DIESEL DRIFT NOT AE86 COOKING OIL HKS GREDDY etc etc.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 07:55 PM

Like it 8) http://www.rimmerbro...sd1_india/index

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 07:56 PM

If it was an early 2300 I wouldn't have bought it as I don't think they have PAS (and 4 speed too?). Only thing I'm not so keen on is the headlights and especially the chrome trim round them and the later bumpers which aren't so nice. Interiors fine by me. Looks nice a nice place to be (whilst waiting for the AA no doubt)

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 07:57 PM

Good luck -s'pose we all need to experience BL once. My pref now is early Series 1...
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 07:58 PM

That looks really smart Ed and not a lot of money IMO. Always liked the shape of them.I've been round Rimmer Brothers stores - you can keep an SD1 going for ever now!
I dont no wot there worth tbh mate only wont it for pre 68 obvserly lol hav u got any pics plz mate

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 08:03 PM

I have experienced the joy of BL before. I had a Marina 1300 super. It was proper shite :lol: Lots of faults, niggling problems and the occasional major failure. I think I'm just curious to see if I like it or not. Be an interesting comparison to some of the Japanese stuff I have had of the same age.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 08:03 PM

The 2300 is supposed to be the most troublesome of the SD1 engines. 2600 is usually a better bet if you want a 6. Having said that, if it's been well maintained and had frequent oil changes you should be OK, especially if you're not going to be doing many miles in it. And I have to say that is a very smart looking example, and the price ain't bad either. Just stick some Vitesse alloys on it to match the front skirt and you'll have yourself a very nice looking motor. Comfy too.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 08:07 PM

That's what I read. The head was replaced with a recon one a few years ago along with a new cam. I'm happier that it was a done a while back rather than recently as there's less chance that the engines goosed. Passed it's MOT with flying colours apparently so it can't be too bad.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 08:28 PM

Shite-meister said he's got a 2-6, noticed that he must have re-organised his photobucket a/c so all the image links in his posts are broken but I' found a few in his SD1 album

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 08:59 PM

Have you bought it Ed? Is it local, or will we have to put the shed on hold for a day? :D

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 09:01 PM

Have you bought it Ed? Is it local, or will we have to put the shed on hold for a day? :D

Yup :lol: Something to smoke about in for the winter! Yep, shed will have to wait a day, we've more important matters to attend to!

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 09:02 PM

Excellent work!!Where is it? will i get back in time so as to have appeared to have been at work?! :lol:

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 09:10 PM

Newmarket. Tom Tom says it 122 miles, 2.55h.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 09:15 PM

Excellent. We'll be back by lunchtime then!!Is it taxed? drive back job?

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 09:22 PM

Well be back by about four I expect as I'm not sure I can pick it up until lunchtime. Then again we can always go earlier and you can just drop me off and cruise on back. I have to call the geezer in the morning so I'll find out then.It's a drive home jobby. Needs rent but I can get that there.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 09:24 PM

Sounds dandy. So long as i'm back in Grimsby by 4.45 it'll be fine :)

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 09:31 PM

I'd love to at least be passengered in one. The boss at my first job had a 2000, then a 2600VDP, and I got ferried around in both of them. I remember that feeling of sitting between the high waistline and big transmission tunnel. The airiness of the interior was not helped by his pipesmoking which gave everything a fuggy quality. Not unusual to find a pipe tucked down beside the seat.Sadly I never got to drive either of them (too young!) but I did have a go in his 827 which followed it.Make sure you bring it down when you visit soon!I guess it would have competed with C31 Laurel 2.4, taking an example from the sort of stuff we know? In 1984, my Parkers says a 2300 SD1 was £10264 and the Laurel a mere £8195 :shock: A Granada 2.3GL was £10627, an Audi 100 CS (2.2) over £11k.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 09:32 PM

No worries. If I can I'll organise to go early on. I might try and call him now and see what he says.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 09:43 PM

I'd love to at least be passengered in one. The boss at my first job had a 2000, then a 2600VDP, and I got ferried around in both of them. I remember that feeling of sitting between the high waistline and big transmission tunnel. The airiness of the interior was not helped by his pipesmoking which gave everything a fuggy quality. Not unusual to find a pipe tucked down beside the seat.Sadly I never got to drive either of them (too young!) but I did have a go in his 827 which followed it.Make sure you bring it down when you visit soon!I guess it would have competed with C31 Laurel 2.4, taking an example from the sort of stuff we know? In 1984, my Parkers says a 2300 SD1 was £10264 and the Laurel a mere £8195 :shock: A Granada 2.3GL was £10627, an Audi 100 CS (2.2) over £11k.

Blimey, that's a hell of a price difference! I'm amazed that the Laurel was so cheap. That was around the time Nissan UK had a big falling out with NMC over the sale of Nissan UK wasn't it. From what I read NMC started ramping up the prices they were charging Nissan UK for cars to make things difficult for them. Incidentally, I found out that NMC later refused to sell Nissan UK two models which would have been very profitable but I don't know which two. I wonder if one was the C33 Laurel?I'll definately trundle down to yours in it shortly. I did think about diverting that way on the way back but I checked and it's about 60 odd miles and then about 3 hours back from yours to home.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 10:54 PM

Evenin all, as the resident SD1 meister-of-shite that is the SD1 I would strongly advise you to get a V8, basically you can talk about camshaft seizures and other straight-six problems as long as ya like son and granted-the 2000 is reliable(in SD1 terms) and economical but it has all the attraction of a Gareth Gates CD and I'll forget you even mentioned the 2400Turdo-Diesel.
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasically I've got at the moment a 2600 and a V8, admittedly the V8 is modified but if I forgot about the power, noise and enough torque to tear yourself a new arse-piece I would be left with one thing-engine noise, the engine note from an SD1 straight-six is in my humble quite possible one of the flattest, biggest disappointments this side of discovering you got a Gareth Gates CD for Chrimbo. Rip the motor out and stick in a V8. Interesting what Mister Nigel Slap-and-Tickle said-I had a Vitesse last year myself, One owner from new 52k miler-big bag o'sh!te, every journey was a disaster. Panels will rot in next to no time-it might look mint now but a year outside without wrapping it in cotton wool and it'll be a rotter. Oh yeah and you'll have loads of electrical probs, loads of leaks and the headlining will sagg and go mouldy.
Is anyone interested in a 2600SE???? the dark red one in the pics? I really need to get rid of it so I will take silly money for it. think its mileage is 72k, ran ok when last used, its not the usual bag of nails either.
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 11:07 PM

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Love the wheels on this one. I remember travelling to school in metallic green V8-S when I was wee, quite a nice experience as I recall. About as close as I ever got to travelling in a Ferrari Daytona, anyway.

Wasn't the Diesel SD1 engine sourced from Italy?




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