Felly Magic Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Your car could have even been damaged before it was delivered to you, and repaired without your knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New POD Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 So don't start it Dear Fuckface? If you know the name of the Managing Director and that's his name, then maybe. But if you are unsure I would probably not. cort16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New POD Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Your car could have even been damaged before it was delivered to you, and repaired without your knowledge After it was registered but before delivered ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 Your car could have even been damaged before it was delivered to you, and repaired without your knowledge It says the damage occurred in March 2016, the car was registered in October 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraWomble Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 It says the damage occurred in March 2016, the car was registered in October 2014. So JCVD borrowed it, crashed it, then took it back in time (like in Timecop) to before you bought it and swapped it with another one nearly the same, but not, at the port where it was brought into the country.Or summat. Or its phat fingers - have you tried punching in the reg number on the DooVLAy website a digit or so different to see if there are any more similar Jukes? cort16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 It's worthless m8, ill give you £250 for it since it's a write off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 If you send them a letter saying your £15000 car is now only worth £500, your letter will be in the bin before they finish the paragraph. If you present realistic researched figures then you may get somewhere. eddieirvine, New POD and scdan4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somewhatfoolish Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 On the plus side (I think). I saw a mysterious new Renault i didn't know existed. It's massive. Koleos? It sounds like a bowel disease. DSdriver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 Call logged with Experian they say it's got a two day turn around on the investigation . Cavcraft and oldcars 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughant Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Have you checked the DVLA database to see if there's a Vic marker on it? You usually need one if its cat c (yes I know the system has changed now but it will at least then give you a good clue as to when it may have been wrongly added to the database) but this isn't (wasn't) always the case that a Vic was required although for non commercial vehicles it was in 90% of cases. If it had been written off there would be a big paper trail, you'd have to have an accident, make a claim,someone should have assessed a highish value car and said that the damage on it was uneconomical to repair which on something like that would be pretty major damage, have invoices/reports from various garages etc to show what car it was, work quotes, most likely photographs of said event and so on. If you get nowhere a quick solution can be a consumer rights program, they love shite like this but my gut feeling is it won't get anywhere near that, this should be sorted ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltox Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 VIC was abolished in 2015 so a 2016 write off won't have the marker will it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 From watching The young ones I am fairly sure all letters to these sort of people have to start with Darling fascist bully boy.......... groovylee, Cavcraft, UltraWomble and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bianconeri Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Did I tell you I'm a bit of a twat with big faceless companies who ignore the public.I'd end up in the small claims court and win because they wouldn't turn up.Bet I can be a much bigger PITA to these companies. My usual response to the jobsworths is 'why should I accept a "no" from someone who has no authority to say "yes"?. That's always closely followed by "please give me your name so I can tell <insert CEO name> how poorly you have dealt with this issue". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bianconeri Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 From watching The young ones I am fairly sure all letters to these sort of people have to start with Darling fascist bully boy..........Much too conciliatory. When writing you do need to get things like "I am surprised at your delusions of competence" into the communique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 When I spoke to Experian they said the insurance company on record isn't my insurance company .Hopefully fat fingers . RichardK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianRetro Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Dear Sirs/Madams, Ref: Incorrect information on your database with regards to vehicle reg number ...... I have attempted unsuccessfully via the telephone to get the information corrected and was met by major unhelpfulness. So let me get this straight for you. This car was purchased new, and has NEVER been in an accident.Do to a slight cash flow issue, I wish to sell the car for it's current market value of £15,000 and due to the incorrect data you hold, I have been told it is worth £500 if that. So I would request you put this right immediately. This would require you to firstly investigate. For this I'd like a written explanation as to how, why and who was to blame for the incorrect error.I need this with 5 working days.Secondly, I need you to remove the Cat C marker immediatelyI need this done within 5 working days also. If you can not do this I will be forced to sell the car at a £14500 loss, and will make a claim in the small claims court to cover that and compensation for lost time at £650 per day.You can expect proceedings to start after 7 working days. On the other hand, I'm a reasonable person and mistakes get made, so feel free to offer a different timescale, if you can are prepared to offer me an interest free loan of £14500 whilst you investigate and expedite the repair to your wonderful reputation. Please note, I have made the assumption that it was a hamfisted employee of your organisation or of an insurance company, and not fraud, because maybe someone in your organisation might have taken a backhander from someone to legitimise a write off and sell it on to an unsuspecting punter with no Cat C marker, so I have contacted the Police just in case and have been given a crime number ....... just in case. I'm sure your investigation will look into this possibility and I look forward to understanding the root cause. I digress, you have 5 days. On the 7th day I start legal action. Yours sin cer ely ........Wanker. Bin. Next piece of mail. How not to do it. Cleon-Fonte, dome, fiatdaft and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddieirvine Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Bet I can be a much bigger PITA to these companies. My usual response to the jobsworths is 'why should I accept a "no" from someone who has no authority to say "yes"?. That's always closely followed by "please give me your name so I can tell <insert CEO name> how poorly you have dealt with this issue". Yes because the CEO of a multi million pound company will 1. Be your best mate that you know by first name terms2. Have given you a direct line to him so he can listen to your unrealistic demands whilst he reschedules his diary which is booked 2 months in advance3. Take a walk from his office (which is probably at the other end of the country) to have a chat with the person you were speaking to and instantly fire them, insuring that an innocent person is put out of a job because you of upmost importance is some kind of superior being that must be obeyed and bowed before.4. stop talking shite If you put forward a logical case, based on facts and are civil then they will help you. They are not out to "Screw the little man". If you try to act like some kind of superior being that must be obeyed and make fantasy demands they will just think you are "one of those" and ignore you Im not sure what you do for a living but I think you would expect people to be reasonable when dealing with you in a situation People make mistakes and they are usually as keen to sort it out as you are if they have make a genuine mistake and not realised. Jazoli, Cleon-Fonte, AlabamaShrimp and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jazoli Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Dear Sirs/Madams, Ref: Incorrect information on your database with regards to vehicle reg number ...... I have attempted unsuccessfully via the telephone to get the information corrected and was met by major unhelpfulness. So let me get this straight for you. This car was purchased new, and has NEVER been in an accident.Do to a slight cash flow issue, I wish to sell the car for it's current market value of £15,000 and due to the incorrect data you hold, I have been told it is worth £500 if that. So I would request you put this right immediately. This would require you to firstly investigate. For this I'd like a written explanation as to how, why and who was to blame for the incorrect error.I need this with 5 working days.Secondly, I need you to remove the Cat C marker immediatelyI need this done within 5 working days also. If you can not do this I will be forced to sell the car at a £14500 loss, and will make a claim in the small claims court to cover that and compensation for lost time at £650 per day.You can expect proceedings to start after 7 working days. On the other hand, I'm a reasonable person and mistakes get made, so feel free to offer a different timescale, if you can are prepared to offer me an interest free loan of £14500 whilst you investigate and expedite the repair to your wonderful reputation. Please note, I have made the assumption that it was a hamfisted employee of your organisation or of an insurance company, and not fraud, because maybe someone in your organisation might have taken a backhander from someone to legitimise a write off and sell it on to an unsuspecting punter with no Cat C marker, so I have contacted the Police just in case and have been given a crime number ....... just in case. I'm sure your investigation will look into this possibility and I look forward to understanding the root cause. I digress, you have 5 days. On the 7th day I start legal action. Yours sin cer ely ........ Er nope, that's what you write if you want it filing in the bin, stick to the facts, drop the insults and pointless waffle, ask for a timescale for it to be resolved and send a hard copy recorded delivery. dome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 If you go in there all 'I know my rights... this that and the other' they'll have you down as a fool and get treat accordingly. Were I the guy that got that letter I'd not even bother getting to the bottom of the page, I'd file it under B. Present the facts and ask for a timescale about when it's going to be sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobthebeard Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Am confused. (Easily done) but how is a 2014 car worth £15000 reduced in value to £500 by a Cat C?Edit.Oh... That wasn't actually you or actually correct. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dome Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Having the misfortune to occasionally deal with the great unwashed in my current role I can confirm that waffle like that posted by New POD will not help one bit. Not being a dick can work wonders though. scruff, cobblers, Cheggers and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share Posted July 21, 2017 There's no point in losing the head until you can't make any progress . Experian have a 24 sla so I expect I'll hear on Monday . If Experian can't do anything then I need to try to escalate it including possibly involving the police and my insurance company if it had been cloned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendry Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Im a bit lost as to how cloning would work in this scenario. I understand the usual cloning involves stealing a car, then giving it the identity of an identical not recorded as stolen car so the thieves can sell it on. The only way I can think of for this is someone has smashed a white 2014 Juke, but then reinsured it elsewhere using your cars details, made a claim, been paid out, bought the salvage back, repaired it, and then give the damaged car its original identity back as it will now not show as written off, but im sure that cant be it. Someone please explain because im baffled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen01 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Phat fingers, alf892 and AlabamaShrimp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Dear Sirs/Madams, Ref: Incorrect information on your database with regards to vehicle reg number ...... I have attempted unsuccessfully via the telephone to get the information corrected and was met by major unhelpfulness. So let me get this straight for you. This car was purchased new, and has NEVER been in an accident.Do to a slight cash flow issue, I wish to sell the car for it's current market value of £15,000 and due to the incorrect data you hold, I have been told it is worth £500 if that. So I would request you put this right immediately. This would require you to firstly investigate. For this I'd like a written explanation as to how, why and who was to blame for the incorrect error.I need this with 5 working days.Secondly, I need you to remove the Cat C marker immediatelyI need this done within 5 working days also. If you can not do this I will be forced to sell the car at a £14500 loss, and will make a claim in the small claims court to cover that and compensation for lost time at £650 per day.You can expect proceedings to start after 7 working days. On the other hand, I'm a reasonable person and mistakes get made, so feel free to offer a different timescale, if you can are prepared to offer me an interest free loan of £14500 whilst you investigate and expedite the repair to your wonderful reputation. Please note, I have made the assumption that it was a hamfisted employee of your organisation or of an insurance company, and not fraud, because maybe someone in your organisation might have taken a backhander from someone to legitimise a write off and sell it on to an unsuspecting punter with no Cat C marker, so I have contacted the Police just in case and have been given a crime number ....... just in case. I'm sure your investigation will look into this possibility and I look forward to understanding the root cause. I digress, you have 5 days. On the 7th day I start legal action. Yours sin cer ely ........I can see this letter being passed round the office to much merriment and guffawing. 'LOL take a look at this fucker, he's obviously been given a Judge Judy box set' The Reverend Bluejeans, alf892, Rave and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 One thing I learnt from dealing with the public is that the ones that shout "I know my rights!", never actually know their rights. jumpingjehovahs, fiatdaft, Pillock and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 One thing I've learnt at work is that if people come in all guns blazing they get FdRO. Despite some of the social media-esque replies on here, just be polite and stick to the facts. jumpingjehovahs, alf892, Jim Bell and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 Oh I will fight for my rights. Especially to party. The Reverend Bluejeans, Cavcraft, KruJoe and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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