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#691 OFFLINE   Mally

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 09:12 PM

One of the seals fitted wrong way round maybe?

If not then take the two bolts out of  slave cylinder and let hang on hose.

Push the piston in as far as possible, you may have to take lid off M Cyl.

Put a bolt down inside the slave cylinder to rest on the piston.

Use G clamp or strap to hold the bolt in place.

Bleed until solid.

Should remain solid.

If not solid is fluid leaking anywhere?

 

If no leaks but pedal spongy I'd try a different M/Cyl..... Maybe pipe it up to the brake one temporarily.



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Posted 23 November 2017 - 09:32 PM

Duff bleed nipple?

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 09:52 PM

Are you bleeding it the old fashioned way or using a pressure / vacuum pump?

I remember an old Vauxhall I had that just wouldn't bleed properly but eventually managed a successful fluid change with a Gunsons Eezibleed. Might be worth trying?
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Posted 23 November 2017 - 10:02 PM

@Mally and Cpt70s:  Pedal is firm once bled, but as soon as you use it air gets back in.  Seals fitted correctly, none flipped. No fluid leaks, bleed valve operating as it ought.

 

@Parky:  using a method from someone that knows what he's doing and who I trust implicitly with these things.  The method works, but the system is pulling air in once it's been bled.

 

I'm pretty sure it's a duff hose with a potential for duff MC. New MC is about £100, a hose is £8, so I'm loathe to stick a new MC on it until I've exhausted the cheap/free options.  Just one of those things from the car being stood so long, really.



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Posted 23 November 2017 - 10:02 PM

One of the seals fitted wrong way round maybe?
If not then take the two bolts out of slave cylinder and let hang on hose.
Push the piston in as far as possible, you may have to take lid off M Cyl.
Put a bolt down inside the slave cylinder to rest on the piston.
Use G clamp or strap to hold the bolt in place.
Bleed until solid.
Should remain solid.
If not solid is fluid leaking anywhere?

If no leaks but pedal spongy I'd try a different M/Cyl..... Maybe pipe it up to the brake one temporarily.


Everyone said bleeding MGB clutch hydros would be difficult. I did pretty much as above with a cable tie to keep the piston in, left it dangling and used an Eezi bleed to force the fluid through. Got all the air out very quickly and the system works great.
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Posted 23 November 2017 - 10:04 PM

Not a bad idea to replace the pipe anyway tbh. At least you will have that bit of peace of mind.



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Posted 23 November 2017 - 10:04 PM

Would taking out the master cylinder and
sticking compressed air into the system work to see if it holds pressure? And where a leak is.
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Posted 24 November 2017 - 01:33 PM

Duff hose would leak fluid unless its collapsed internally in which case little would pass either way.

A hose that does not leak fluid under foot pressure is unlikely to draw air in under the pressure of the return spring you have fitted in the master cyl. Although the master cylinder possibly could.

Either you are not getting  all the air out, master cyl is defective, or there is a problem with the operating lever/clutch mechanism.

 

I have been wrong in the past though.



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Posted 24 November 2017 - 02:11 PM

Added into the mix is the very real possibility of new parts being shit too.  It's great trying to resolve issues like this because you have no idea what's wrong exactly until you fix it.  Still, we're in the right sort of area and if I can get away without replacing the MC that would be good.  Hose is still my hope as a fix, mainly because of cost.



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Posted 24 November 2017 - 08:09 PM

I shouldn't do this but I've been watching this for a while and isn't this up in your neck of the woods? Looking at the MOT history it isn't mint but possibly a better base to start from? It's been on for quite a few months and steadily reduced so may be open for an offer...

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My history: 2003 Clio II 1.2 16v (First car), 2003 Honda Civic 3dr 1.7 CTDi (Isuzu lump), 1992 Mazda MX5 1.6, 2005 Mazda RX8 192bhp, 2005 Saab 9-3 1.9TiD 150bhp, 2007 Honda Civic 2.2 CTDi, 2004 Renault Scenic 1.6 Auto (Now Kiltox FiL), 2004 Saab 9-5 2.3t (Now Hooli), 2004 Smart Roadster 80bhp
Wife history (that she used/owned but I had frequent use of): 2002 Renault Clio II 1.2 16v (Billabong!), 2006 Mazda MX5 1.8, 2004 VW Golf 1.6 FSI, 2005 Renault Scenic II 2.0 (went bad from the drive back when buying it!), 2002 Vauxhall Astra 1.6 16v (now phil_lihp ex-colleague), 2005 Renault Laguna II v6 (Now angle)

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Posted 24 November 2017 - 08:17 PM

Hang on £2000, I don't think an offer of zero would be accepted.

Makes the £1500 Allegro in another thread seem a bargain though.


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Posted 24 November 2017 - 09:03 PM

I shouldn't do this but I've been watching this for a while and isn't this up in your neck of the woods? Looking at the MOT history it isn't mint but possibly a better base to start from? It's been on for quite a few months and steadily reduced so may be open for an offer...

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Posted 24 November 2017 - 09:34 PM

Polwarth! That's bringing back some vague memories of a small garage business with old tat outside, which I think was flattened and replaced with a supermarket or something.
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Posted 24 November 2017 - 11:18 PM

Is £2000 a silly price for an early 1100 with an Mot? I was looking at that last week and thinking how reasonable it seemed, considering you rarely see unrestored cars that aren't totally hanging, but what do I know?
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Posted 25 November 2017 - 12:07 AM

I was thinking that too. It looks unmolested and yes, not hanging. It might be the pics showing it in a favourable light, 'spose.
But, jeez, the last Ado16 in my family in 1980 didn't look as together as that does.

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Posted 25 November 2017 - 03:02 PM

Road legal Mk1s are not exactly ten a penny and the asking price is pretty reasonable, even if it turns out to be crumbly cornflakes underneath.  When you get an ADO16 it seems you expect to have to replace the floors, arches and sills as standard unless you're paying £6k+, and even then you usually end up having to.

 

Even if the money were there - it's not - for me to get a better starting point there's not really any point.  I've done the worst of the repair work on the car and now I'm into normal ADO16 maintenance type welding, the sort of stuff that's left is expected of just about any model you'd buy.  Purchase cost of this car was the £100 for Joe to help us bring it home with the diesel jellybean.  I can't go out and get a better one for the same money and spending more money might even put me back where I am now. Makes loads more sense to just plug away at this one, especially since engine and suspension are in good shape.

 

To put things into perspective, I've never spent as much as £1000 on any car ever.  I think the most I've ever spent was buying the Princess at £450.  I am not a rich man.


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Posted 25 November 2017 - 03:25 PM

Even if the money were there - it's not - for me to get a better starting point there's not really any point. I've done the worst of the repair work on the car and now I'm into normal ADO16 maintenance type welding, the sort of stuff that's left is expected of just about any model you'd buy. Purchase cost of this car was the £100 for Joe to help us bring it home with the diesel jellybean. I can't go out and get a better one for the same money and spending more money might even put me back where I am now. Makes loads more sense to just plug away at this one, especially since engine and suspension are in good shape.

and you've saved/saving a ADO16 that would likely have gone to the scrapper.
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2010 Aldi A4 - Owned to placate the wife on my crap buying


My history: 2003 Clio II 1.2 16v (First car), 2003 Honda Civic 3dr 1.7 CTDi (Isuzu lump), 1992 Mazda MX5 1.6, 2005 Mazda RX8 192bhp, 2005 Saab 9-3 1.9TiD 150bhp, 2007 Honda Civic 2.2 CTDi, 2004 Renault Scenic 1.6 Auto (Now Kiltox FiL), 2004 Saab 9-5 2.3t (Now Hooli), 2004 Smart Roadster 80bhp
Wife history (that she used/owned but I had frequent use of): 2002 Renault Clio II 1.2 16v (Billabong!), 2006 Mazda MX5 1.8, 2004 VW Golf 1.6 FSI, 2005 Renault Scenic II 2.0 (went bad from the drive back when buying it!), 2002 Vauxhall Astra 1.6 16v (now phil_lihp ex-colleague), 2005 Renault Laguna II v6 (Now angle)

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 02:18 PM

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 07:34 PM

I can't remember what you might or might not be doing about tyres (apologies for not reading through thread again) but spotted these in your neck o'the woods if you're keeping it standard.

 

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 10:37 PM

I shouldn't do this but I've been watching this for a while and isn't this up in your neck of the woods? Looking at the MOT history it isn't mint but possibly a better base to start from? It's been on for quite a few months and steadily reduced so may be open for an offer...

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CB8AAOSw~...
https://rover.ebay.c...tm/292012597030


Down to £1800 now. I reckon he'd take a offer on it for a quick sale, if someone on here really wanted it. I'd be tempted for a nose if it wasn't 8hrs drive away.
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2007 Honda Civic EX CTDi - The reliable runner that is like the family pet.
2010 Aldi A4 - Owned to placate the wife on my crap buying


My history: 2003 Clio II 1.2 16v (First car), 2003 Honda Civic 3dr 1.7 CTDi (Isuzu lump), 1992 Mazda MX5 1.6, 2005 Mazda RX8 192bhp, 2005 Saab 9-3 1.9TiD 150bhp, 2007 Honda Civic 2.2 CTDi, 2004 Renault Scenic 1.6 Auto (Now Kiltox FiL), 2004 Saab 9-5 2.3t (Now Hooli), 2004 Smart Roadster 80bhp
Wife history (that she used/owned but I had frequent use of): 2002 Renault Clio II 1.2 16v (Billabong!), 2006 Mazda MX5 1.8, 2004 VW Golf 1.6 FSI, 2005 Renault Scenic II 2.0 (went bad from the drive back when buying it!), 2002 Vauxhall Astra 1.6 16v (now phil_lihp ex-colleague), 2005 Renault Laguna II v6 (Now angle)

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 10:54 PM

If air is getting in, the level of fluid should be changing. Has it moved any while it's been sat up?
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Posted 08 December 2017 - 07:35 AM

.  I am not a rich man.

 

Financially perhaps not, but you most certainly are in other respects.


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