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#571 ONLINE   vulgalour

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:46 PM

PVD:  That's more like it!  Not come across that site before and that's much more the range I've been trying and failing to find.  So far all the stuff I'd been finding were horrible budget tyres, even when asking at tyre shops.  You've probably solved the issue for me with that selection, thank you.

 

Eddie:  I know, I know, modern tyre profiles are not particularly car or passenger friendly.  They absorb less of the rough and tumble of our characterful road surfaces causing discomfort for passengers and extra wear on mechanical components, not to mention the extra stresses on the tyre itself since there's less of it to do the job that needs to be done.  I just like sidewall and lack of sidewall in varying quantities.

 

Noel:  different PCD I thought.  Mini are 4x4" or 4x101.6 in metric as opposed to ADO16 4x4.5" or 4x114.3 in metric.  Unless they changed it on later models?



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 05:46 PM

I found tyreleader the cheapest when I got the MGB 165r14 tyres. Camskills can be pretty good too and shipped from UK, so a bit quicker.

I did have to do a search on 165/80/14 to find it.
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 06:04 PM

Let's put the worries about tyres and wheels behind us for now, I'm a way off getting those yet and have lots of other jobs to be getting on with, namely yet more welding.

 

I got a lucky on eBay when I found a selection of headlight buckets, trims and sealed beam lights for ¬£NOTALOT and was the only bidder.  I've ended up with a pair of plastic headlight buckets, a spare metal one, several good retaining rings, a couple of spare trim rings, some spare used rubber gaskets and a good sealed beam headlight for less than a pair of brand new plastic buckets.  Quite pleased with that.  There's even some spare bits of wiring and connectors in there too, should I need any of them.

36408907751_b92372cbba_b.jpg20170813-01 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

After getting the fusebox reset, I cracked on with the welding in the boot.  This was fiddly and I had to take regular breaks, something near the welded areas was making a lot of smoke that just sort of sat in the boot right where my head needed to be so there was lots of time spent wafting it out of the way.  Nothing was on fire, just a lot of heavy smoke from something, probably underseal.  I can now call the boot welding completed.  I decided not to tackle the inner and outer arch brown lace because that's not structural and can be done without needing to immobilise the car at pretty much any point.

36150201960_d954434ce8_b.jpg20170813-02 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

36408907341_b628d97669_b.jpg20170813-03 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

35737464453_5d555b11ff_b.jpg20170813-04 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

With that all seam sealed and painted I can leave it alone until I'm ready to clean and underseal the car after the sills and floors are done.  It's nice to have this crossed off the list finally.  I could have done the sill repair that was needed on the passenger side, it's an easy enough job, but I didn't really have that much time to get properly involved so I assessed what was left to do and decided to attack the bad floor pan.  It got a bit out of hand.

36408906961_d0d151cfab_b.jpg20170813-05 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

YABBADABBADOO!

35737464003_dd130775cb_b.jpg20170813-06 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

I'm a bit puzzled about the subframe mount on the heelboard.  After knocking off the loose rust flakes I was expecting to find a hole through to the subframe which would then require new metal letting in.  However, it looks more likely that someone has patched it from the subframe side without removing the rust.  I'm not really sure what to do about this at the moment, I'm considering just undoing the bolts and cleaning it all back to try and find where it's welded and assess from there.  It'll be a lot easier to do with no floor in the car, loads of access even with the pedals still fitted.

36408906581_c11c92cdc1_b.jpg20170813-07 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

I do need to take more floor out than I have.  The piece that runs under the seat mount/crossmember is rotten and has taken some of this piece with it.  I need to remove the rotten floor, repair the crossmember and reinstate the floor in one piece if I can.  I think the Mini floor pan I have is just big enough to do the whole floor repair in one go, but it's very close on whether or not it's long enough.  Again, this area is going to be a lot easier to repair now the floor is removed, there's much more access to get things into the shape I need them to be.

35737463553_af6e682eb3_b.jpg20170813-08 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

36408906301_fe3828f5ec_b.jpg20170813-09 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

In closing...

35737462303_1651417b94_b.jpg20170813-11 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

35737463273_f6388951d3_b.jpg20170813-10 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:46 PM

Vulg,apologies if my post was a bit harsh and abrupt, I've been having a shit day having paid £400 having my bike engine rebuilt,and the clutch doesn't work!

Same tyre size as used on my old Reliant Fox,falkens were very good.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:52 PM

Recommendation noted :)  Hope the bike problem resolves painlessly for you, that doesn't sound fun at all.



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:54 PM

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 09:26 PM

Subframe mount on toeboard (bulkhead) should be double-skinned.  The inner skin (almost) always does what yours has and rots away unseen under the carpets.  I don't think I've seen one 1100 which hasn't at least started to go like that.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:23 AM

Just wanted to say that I'm loving what you are doing here.

 

It's making me quite nostalgic for ADO16 motoring.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 08:10 PM

Vulg,apologies if my post was a bit harsh and abrupt, I've been having a shit day having paid £400 having my bike engine rebuilt,and the clutch doesn't work!

Same tyre size as used on my old Reliant Fox,falkens were very good.


What bike is it? There's a variety of things that could be the cause and quite a few are really easy to sort, one of mine needs riding with the clutch in and rear brake applied to free it off when it's been stood a while .

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 03:13 PM

Spent another couple of hours today and feel like I've achieved very little.  Just one of those sorts of jobs I suppose.  On starting to clean up the edges of where I'd made the first cut I found some more problems.  First one being the historic inner sill repair which has rotted out on the weld line.

36450141851_b80a282c21_b.jpg20170815-01 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

The rear floor pan was actually better than expected so that was something.  There's still an awkward bit to chop out all the same.  You can also see the messy unfinished end of the repair that I'd already done to the floor this side a while ago, didn't do a better job as I was expecting to have to cut this out a bit more and was limited by the size of the metal I'd got to put in.

36191256860_99c00cc34b_b.jpg20170815-02 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

As I was removing the floor pan up to the seam under the pedals, more metal came off.  I reckon I'm going to have to replace this subframe mount completely judging by the state of the metal there.

36419387692_dcaeb7dfec_b.jpg20170815-03 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

The hole got bigger.  The repair is uncomfortably close to the fuel and suspension pipes which I really don't want to have to drop from the car.  I'll see what I'm left with when I've done tidying up.  I can probably weld the new panel in without moving the pipes if I put a sheet of copper or some kevlar cloth or something between the pipes and the new floor as I work.

36191256580_1c7a695fc4_b.jpg20170815-04 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

That was it for today.  Don't feel like I've achieved very much really but I know this is the slow part of the job.  Putting the panel in is always a lot faster than the prep work.

 


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 10:11 PM

My grandads old beast then passed to my auntie..think she killed it..

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 10:15 PM

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 10:20 PM

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 11:00 PM

The mirrors Vulg, the mirrors !!  That's a late mk2.. 14" wheels on the rear



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 11:07 PM

What are those mirrors off, a Dennis Dart?


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 11:28 PM

Something you don't see so much of these days,unless a Land Rover has parked up, and that's  all the oil drips in the road ..  :-D

 

 

 

What's that?

 

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 07:01 AM

Beetle?
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 07:30 AM

What are those mirrors off, a Dennis Dart?

They look the same as my Reliant Rialto ones.

 

Great work with this, its flying along. 



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Posted 16 August 2017 - 07:35 AM

The talk of wheels, reminds me of probably the main reason I didn't like ADO16s in my youth.
In the late 60's early 70's everyone's mum had a catalogue and usually neighbour's would order things from each other's , so different ones would come in and out of the house. Kay's, Littlewoods, Grattans etc
Only 3 sections held any interest for me ; Toys, Ladies underwear and Car Accessories, this was usually just two pages and included fold up garages, motorcycle helmets and Savage 500 wheeltrims.
There was always a disclaimer next to the trims
" Not suitable for BLMC 1100 and Maxi" !! WTF? The best selling car of most of the 60's dismissed in one line, not the best marketing plan of ever.
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 07:57 AM

I desperately wanted a   jack up kit  ( extra long spring hangers with lots of holes advertised in Custom Car)  also not suitable for ADO 16   :-(  Did have a long fibreglass whip aerial though  :-D and Richard Grant spoiler . 

 

The neighbours Littlewoods book always opened at knickers and bras pages.... :-D



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Posted 16 August 2017 - 09:09 AM

What bike is it? There's a variety of things that could be the cause and quite a few are really easy to sort, one of mine needs riding with the clutch in and rear brake applied to free it off when it's been stood a while .

 

Mutha Thestag had a TR7 like that, only way to free the bastard off after a week of so of inactivity was to get it on the road, warm the engine up, press clutch down, turn starter with it in 2nd gear.

 

Bang! and the clutch is free


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 01:48 PM

Ah, the Barry Scott method.


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 06:34 PM

Not suitable for ADO16 and Maxi will be to do with funny wheel offset surely?
I think the 1300FWD would also be a no for similar reasons, on the front wheels at least.

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Posted Yesterday, 03:42 PM

Which one of you sent this?

36630799725_0f2f0229d3_b.jpg20170817-01 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

I like it, and thank you, but there was no giveaway with it as to who sent it and only so many of you have my name and address.

36630799505_96c405c8d2_b.jpg20170817-02 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

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Prophetic too, as it happens, because my ADO16 is definitely a concern.  Got it as high as I could on axle stands since putting it on the ramp didn't go as well as hoped due to the car's age-related metal issues.  It started as it always does, with piles of rust.  The goal today was to get the front floor pan hole cut out cleanly and the edges prepared for welding in the new pieces.

36630798495_2edba86bbc_b.jpg20170817-04 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

36493000721_be64554d3f_b.jpg20170817-05 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

There's only a bit of edge cleaning to do now all the rot is chopped out here.  There's a lot of metal to put back in again but thankfully most of that is just the floor pan and then a few fiddly edge patches to tie it all together.  Not too scary then, right?

36493000551_4502783159_b.jpg20170817-06 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

Not too scary at all until I found some filler and fibreglass and gave it a poke and then found the reason for the sill making horrible noises on this side when trying to lift it with the big lift to make life easier.  Turns out the very visible repair inside the car which is nice and solidly attached to the floor and was skimmed with fibreglass resin wasn't so well done on this side.  The pigeon poop welds that should attach the floor to the back of the car don't and the whole lot has a skim of fibreglass over rust, which was all cunningly hidden with what looked like thoroughly presentable underseal.  Finding this rather took the wind out of my sails.

36630797375_978f9e2549_b.jpg20170817-07 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

36493000371_9241f54328_b.jpg20170817-08 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr

 

I was quite upset when I found that after all the work that's been done so far.  Had I known this side of the car was so bad I don't think I would have saved it in all honesty.  However, I've put that much work in and this is all within my abilities to put right that I'm going to do just that.  I'll finish fitting the floor up front first so there's a good amount more strength in the bottom of the car again and then I'll chop out this bit at the back and rebuild it as properly as I can.

 

I may take a few days away from this, just to recharge a bit.  On the positive side, the other side of the car that's been repaired has been done so far, FAR better and a good jab and bash with tools didn't dislodge anything or find unwanted holes so it's not all bad news.


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Posted Yesterday, 04:06 PM

I know how you feel, ickle hole in floor to inner sill section on the staaag turned out to be 12" long once I cleared out the 24 year old bodgery. Arghhhh done it though. Then thought I would prod the same area on the driver side to be faced with further bodgery fucksticks.

 

Keep it up though, doing a cracking job on this


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Posted Yesterday, 04:14 PM

I've liked that for the fixing it anyway and moral support not the finding bad repairs.

 

Enjoy the break away from it, you have earned it.


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Posted Yesterday, 04:47 PM

At least the engine mechanicals don't need too much work. (I think?)
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Posted Yesterday, 04:59 PM

On the positive side it's sometimes easier and quicker to fix a big hole than lots of little ones.
I have faith you will over come this.

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Posted Yesterday, 05:30 PM

On the plus side once I've rebuilt the clutch master cylinder it should be completely drive able.

 

Or just stick your feet through the floor and run.


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