BorniteIdentity Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Reason(s) for failureNearside Rear Direction indicator incorrect colour (1.4.A.2f)Offside Rear Direction indicator incorrect colour (1.4.A.2f) I personally checked them yesterday - and they're very orange.I guess this is the problem with £29.99 MOTs. They're going to find the £15 elsewhere eh? Am I being a monumental dick asking them to change one to show me the difference? Perhaps I'm just too bloody cynical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I'd be cynical. Orange is orange isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanky Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Is it worth the hassle though? If the test was £30 and the 'special' orange bulbs they want to flog you are another £15 you still have an MOT for £45 - if they wanted to charge you £2000 for welding that didn't need doing or for 4 tyres which were fine but had been deemed to be bald then thats a bit different, if it were me I'd suck it up and put the new 'special' orange bulbs into a box for future use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I personally checked them yesterday - and they're very orange. Are you sure? Having put a car through a £29.99 MOT recently (with free retest) I can't really grumble. Test date 27 March 2017 Test result Fail Mileage 72,331 miles MOT test number 8900 2157 1836 Reason(s) for failure Nearside Front Windscreen has a sticker or other obstruction encroaching into the swept area by more than 40mm outside zone 'A' (8.3.1e) Central Front Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases Also leak at joint rear, (7.1.2) Exhaust emissions Lambda reading after 2nd fast idle outside specified limits (7.3.D.3) Advisories Offside Rear Brake pad(s) wearing thin (3.5.1g) Nearside Rear Brake pad(s) wearing thin (3.5.1g) Offside Front Front wheel bearing has slight play (2.5.A.3c) Rear Advise parking brake just made min effort of 16% signs that it needs ie adjustment or attention, Test date 1 April 2017 Test result Pass Expiry date 31 March 2018 Mileage 72,458 miles MOT test number 5172 2268 4823 Advisories Offside Rear Brake pad(s) wearing thin (3.5.1g) Nearside Rear Brake pad(s) wearing thin (3.5.1g) Offside Front Front wheel bearing has slight play (2.5.A.3c) Rear Advise parking brake just made min effort of 16% signs that it needs ie adjustment or attention, Exhaust has a minor leak of exhaust gases from a joint (7.1.2) exhaust centre section is touching the axle Had that sticker been the only issue, I would have sat him down with The Manual and had one of my Brian Clough chats with him. (I've only had to do this once, which was last year, for a NCT (Irish MOT) and the car was re-tested a passed following said chat.) BorniteIdentity, dieselassist and UltraWomble 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorniteIdentity Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Are you sure? Having put a car through a £29.99 MOT recently (with free retest) I can't really grumble. Had that sticker been the only issue, I would have sat him down with The Manual and had one of my Brian Clough chats with him. (I've only had to do this once, which was last year, for a NCT and the car was re-tested a passed following said chat.) Yes. They're orange. We're talking David Dickinson orange. Seeing as there's no standard set in the rules stating they must be Des O'Connor orange, I'm a bit miffed!! I know, life's too short. I'm not the sort to go picking a fight. But I can not stand people taking the piss. IF that is, indeed, what's happening here. Stanky and RobT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorniteIdentity Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Bizarre. They've now passed it, so I guess they've taken the liberty of doing the job for me. Hopefully they'll pay too. Hopefully they'll still have the bulbs for me too! alf892 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 WT actual F? Is there an RAL reference for the correct shade of orange, then? I'd want to see it. michael1703 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanky Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Yes. They're orange. We're talking David Dickinson orange. Seeing as there's no standard set in the rules stating they must be Des O'Connor orange, I'm a bit miffed!! I know, life's too short. I'm not the sort to go picking a fight. But I can not stand people taking the piss. IF that is, indeed, what's happening here. I demand you print off pictures of both David Dickinson and Des O'Connor and take them in when you collect the car later and ask which orange they are testing to - hopefully this will have the added benefit of distracting them/making them think you are a complete mentalist and then forgetting to charge for the bulbs they may or may not have replaced. John F, Supernaut, BorniteIdentity and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorniteIdentity Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 My dads freelander got an advisory 2 years ago for the same thing. He bought a new bulb, then when he went to swap it saw it was the exact same as the one already fitted, so left it in there.Last year it went to the same tester and passed without the advisory, with the same bulb. Don't see how it lets them find £15 elsewhere though? Take the car back from them, fit 2 bulbs for a couple of quid, and re-present for the re-test the next day?I meant... It's bread and butter because little old ladies will always say "oooh young man just do it please if you'd be so kind". I would have taken it away, but they've done it on my behalf. Maybe they know who I am? That or I've got a bill for £257.13 awaiting. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanky Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Buy two new bulbs, take them with you - when they try and charge you for their bulbs get your own ones out your pocket and say "nah, I've got these actually" and demand they remove the bulbs they fitted for you. Then never go back there ever again. beko1987 and BorniteIdentity 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltox Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 WT actual F? Is there an RAL reference for the correct shade of orange, then? I'd want to see it.This failure is usually well justified - I've seen many a car with indicators almost as white as headlights / reversing lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorniteIdentity Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 I'm happy to match up the bulbs to the corresponding pantone later tonight. It's worth saying that the lenses of the light cluster are also orange, so it's never going to be a white light emitted. I hope they are crap and the MOT test system has worked. Genuinely. That's the point of the test. It's just they were very orange last night when I did the usual pre-test checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickman Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I have had this on a couple of cars recently and the bulbs with the orange on the when removed have had the orange coating cracked (like paint stripper sprayed on paint) and letting white light through.10 minutes and £1.50 from Halfords with a trade card and it was sorted. Both of mine were clear lenses! michael1703 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillock Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Orange bulbs behind orange lenses? Why?Surely it's white bulbs for orange lenses, and orange bulbs for white lenses otherwise they'll be dim. Nicola H 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1703 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Amber bulbs are just painted and it does wrinkle off over time. An advisory covers your arse most of the time though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorniteIdentity Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Well, I take it all back. They replaced both the bulbs for free, so I couldn't really ask him to go through the bins to show me the old bulbs he changed gratis. I contest they weren't orange enough, but meh. All sorted. drum, Stanky, barefoot and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayW Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 By the sounds of it Mr Bourne was reading the fail from the computer post-fail. I suspect there'll be no fee for the bulbs as it was just to get their failure numbers up to offset against all the dealer chod they wave straight through. I'd be surprised if they even mention it, not expecting you to have known. Coz after all, if they was orringe they was orringe. Numbers game, innit. Eddie Honda, Rusty_Rocket and D Spares & Tyres 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayW Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Dammit! Cross post! Point made I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorniteIdentity Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 I actually asked him about the bulbs as he handed me the keys, so he probably wouldn't have mentioned it at all. He certainly didn't volunteer the info and there's no mention of bulbs on the invoice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobT Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I demand you print off pictures of both David Dickinson and Des O'Connor and take them in when you collect the car later and ask which orange they are testing to - hopefully this will have the added benefit of distracting them/making them think you are a complete mentalist and then forgetting to charge for the bulbs they may or may not have replaced.Let's not forget the other barometer of orange, George Hamilton. On a sliding scale it's probably Dickinson most orange (bordering on mahogany), Hamilton, then Des. Just googled George, and he's still alive at 77 the frickin' legend. Sorry for the diversion, as you were... UltraWomble, Rusty_Rocket, drum and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felly Magic Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I am deffo thinking this was just a deliberate 'fail' for the garage just to keep their stats, as has already been said, garages with constant passes will put flags up and set warning klaxons going. Perhaps we need to have an autoshite scale of orange thread, with tango'd celebs featuring. Sue Barker must be close to Ford signal orange by now BorniteIdentity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 My Fiesta bulbs failed the last mot, the paint had started to come off even though they still looked bright to me, my mot man just swapped them over gratis and sent me on my merry way with a new ticket. BorniteIdentity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 No one has mentioned Dale Winton or The Donald. Disappointed. BorniteIdentity and Dave_Q 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Can't argue with that result. I got charged £3.90 for a fog light bulb for the Zafira. Was my own stupid fault, and tbh still much cheaper than the £15 retest fee if I had acted on principle and taken it away and got a bulb out of the cupboard at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Lucas 582 amber bulbs are junk - they flash near enough white from new . Osram seem pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayW Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I'd just leave clear ones out in the sun til they get a tan. Gotta be the cheapest way, right? You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 You guys just can't fail an MoT properly to save your lives, can you? Reason for failure: 6.3.4.a. Numberplate characters which are obviously not correctly spaced The Moog, BorniteIdentity, loserone and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayW Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Hoping that wasn't recent, that's an old plate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 The very plate had previously passed 23 MoTs. DeeJay, stripped fred, BorniteIdentity and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf892 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 You got to let go JM! I'd agree with the tester anyway.........something like that can come back to him like a shot and he gets vosa round. Like the man said......it is obvious twosmoke300 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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