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#31 OFFLINE   phil_lihp

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 05:46 PM

Hmm, how does one embed a video?



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 06:07 PM

Dunno - try asking an IT professional ????

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 06:07 PM

I'm sure emoticons used to work on here !

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 06:45 PM

Not using Photobucket is the solution, as it turns out.



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 08:21 PM

Thats an awful noise.  Its not a seized gudgeon pin is it?  



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 08:24 PM

The phone does amplify it a bit, it's not quite that loud in reality but it doesn't sound great. Once it's warmed up and driving though you can barely hear the rattle at all from inside the cabin, so possibly I just need to turn the radio up.

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 08:25 PM

Truth be told I have no idea what the noise is, other than it's no. 4 cylinder.  It apparently started after the head gasket change so it does seem possible they disturbed the liner on one cylinder as you suggested on the previous page.



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Posted 10 June 2017 - 07:27 AM

The timing isn't out is it?



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Posted 10 June 2017 - 08:28 AM

How would I tell? It is possible I guess, I had put the slightly lumpy idle down to old petrol but it did get a new cambelt, tensioner and water pump apparently so it's possible something is out.

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 12:41 PM

I tĥink the hon. Lord Sward is correct.  As of this morning it has a newer battery in it which is currently low on charge and the car therefore won't start without a jump start.  Without a jump, there is just a loud clattering noise which could be the starter straining to turn the engine against some sort of resistance.  When started from cold it struggles to catch and takes several goes to stay running, after which it runs but still idles a little bit lumpily. When turning over, to me it sounds low on compression but I cannot be sure.

 

I went around it with a trolley jack and confirmed the rear wheels turn freely but both front calipers are binding a little.  One rear tyre is on the limit and there are locking wheel nuts but no locking wheel nut key,  Sigh.

 

The key is now in the possesion of my mechanic so he can see what the chances are of a year's ticket and sorting whatever is wrong with the engine but I'm not holding out much hope of it being economical for a garage to do given the car's low value and I have no time or inclination at present for stripping engines and whatnot myself.

 

Therefore, pre-empting the professional confirmation of all this, for £100 it can be yours right now.  Some of that will go to worthy causes in the interests of good karma and positive vibes.

 

It does have good points - new cambelt/waterpump/tensioner and service just days before it was parked up, only 57k on the clock and two new front tyres, plus everything bar the aircon seems to work.  The interior, whilst currently looking and smelling a bit grubby, would probably come up alright with a bit of elbow grease and it does actually run and drive although as it's sans MOT and has sticky brakes and a noisy engine, I'd recommend it is not driven far under its own steam. 

 

It's in Barnstaple, North Devon, PM me for my mobile number if required.  Queue here to get your very own momento of Rover's finest last hour.



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Posted 10 June 2017 - 12:46 PM

Wonder if they have the cam pulleys on the wrong positions - easily done on a k16
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Posted 10 June 2017 - 12:50 PM

Is there a way to tell without lots of dismantling?



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Posted 10 June 2017 - 12:54 PM

Tempting.


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 01:37 PM

Tempting.

 

Let me put a cherry on top: it comes with a large assortment of old air fresheners and 3 original Rover mats.


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 02:14 PM

Is there a way to tell without lots of dismantling?

Yes. Take the upper belt cover off and you'll need to remove both cam pulley bolts. Obvs ensure the pulleys don't fall off. Both inlet & exhaust pulleys are the same but are keyed to sit in a different positions. Both positions are marked in and ex. Make sure the rear one is 'in' and the front one is set on 'ex'. 


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 02:19 PM

Silver Rover 45's are worth serious coin!

 

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 02:19 PM

I have left the car with the mechanic now but I do have this slightly rubbish photo what I took the other day.

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They appear to be aligned correctly but could I suppose be said to be slightly off, might just be the photo though.

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 02:22 PM

Silver Rover 45's are worth serious coin!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162548048106


It's certainly in better condition than mine but that is straining the concept of optimism to its limit.

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 02:37 PM

I have left the car with the mechanic now but I do have this slightly rubbish photo what I took the other day.

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They appear to be aligned correctly but could I suppose be said to be slightly off, might just be the photo though.

The timing marks should be at 9 o clock and 3 o clock, and point to one another- IN on the back and EX on the front..

 

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 03:30 PM

Wot Barry Cade said!



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Posted 10 June 2017 - 04:33 PM

Indeed, well my mechanic can check that when he pulls it inside his workshop as he has the key now.  It does seem logical although I would hope the garage who did the work would check for that sort of thing!



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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:54 AM

It looks like they used Tippex to time the engine.



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Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:34 PM

Yes, no harm in that I guess as long as they did it right!

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:27 PM

No news is good news, right?  I had a brief chat with my mechanic today while I booked another car in for MOT with him, alas the rattly 45 has not yet been seen to as he's been too busy so far.  No rush of course, I told him it's a low priority but I am quite keen to find out what's causing that horrible rattle and whether or not its next trip is 3 miles to the MOT station or half a mile to the scrapyard!  

 

Watch this space...



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 05:10 PM

I got £50 for a nice 25 i hydraulic'd the other day.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 10:25 PM

News at last, I spoke to my mechanic today, he's had a good look over it and said something quite unusual for him; he's advised me to bin it.  The camshaft is damaged, it needs a coil pack, there's brown sludge in the engine from the HGF which suggests it hasn't been fixed very well and it's either leaking or drinking coolant as despite me filling it up a couple of weeks ago, it had very little left in it by times he got to it.  All in all, it's not worth it, the engine's borked.

 

One last call for it to go as one item to any interested party - it runs and drives but it's down on power, the engine sounds awful and I've no idea how long it would keep going.  Front calipers are sticking and it's not been on the road since January last year.  £50 takes it as one, bodywork looks pretty tidy in the main and a replacement engine would probably give it a new lease of life if you had a spare knocking about and the inclination to do the work.

 

If it doesn't go as-is I'll pull a few bits off and scrap it, it's a shame really but it really isn't worth me doing anything with it.  I will be measuring up to see if its drivers seat will fit in my van, would be much more comfy!


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Posted 04 July 2017 - 12:15 AM

Ah, that's a shame Phil. 



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Posted 04 July 2017 - 12:32 AM

Bad news man. If it does go for scrap. Can I have the mats? They'll actually be going to the earlier Red 216 that was offered up here recently as Gadgetgricey only lives down the road from me. Floor mats are peetty much the same (I think)
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Posted 04 July 2017 - 06:02 AM

You can have the mats if you like but there's only three, the rear passenger side is missing and they're filthy!

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 07:26 AM

Feel for you man but I reckon you are doing the right thing here, it sounds quite a lot like something is up with a piston or rod. Same issue with my engine unfortunately which means it's headed for the shredder (car staying though)

Good on you for having a go, you're not shy about pulling cars from long-time resting places!
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